I see Miru's character kind of like a specific type of anime character. Which might make sense since Ocean named Nami after the character with the same name from One Piece. In anime, you'll often see the male protagonist get beat to a pulp for innocently doing stupid shit. So maybe that's where Miru comes from.
I fully agree, it's one of those archetypes that are used a lot in manga/anime.
For me, the trait of loyalty has two sides. The first is fidelity in relationships: she does not cheat or do anything with other without the permission of the MC. Ocean seemed to reassure us of this, or at least repeated several times, that NTR is completely avoidable, even if it's turned on. You will have to constantly neglect Miru and encourage her to the idea of an open relationship so that she will start doing NTR things.
Agree. I can't wait to discover that all kids in SG are William's kids... If we get to guide W. Zane
But Ocean is not an "anime fan" remember ?
Nope. Ocean would have to turn WiAB into a kinetic novel for that to happen. My William isn't touching any female in this game not named Katie or Miru. Maybe Daphne. I find all plus sized women in this very unattractive.
I just passed that point in my playthrough (Katie, Miru & William on the sofa, not-watching the show)
This is up to the player, I think. Do you want an open relationship because your William is bored with Miru?
This I'm not clear on either. Early on, William made it seem that he escaped a toxic environment. Yet now, it seems he ran away because of something he did to Katie. To be honest, this style of storytelling frustrates me. Everybody knows what went on, except for the player.
Only Miru for me, unless there's a reason to break up with her. My William doesn't cheat, even if he'd like to have a bit more sexual variety. (At least, I hope my William doesn't cheat, and there isn't some unavoidable event.)
Whatever happens im sure there will be a "canon" ending for wiab which will mater for SG no matter our choices in wiab.
For me, when WiaB ends, that's it. There is nothing else. Fuck SG.
To each his own, i love the interconnected worldFor me, when WiaB ends, that's it. There is nothing else. Fuck SG.
I'm cool with an interconnected world... I just find SG boring af.
In my opinion, most of the situations you are talking about is an ancient ritual where girls in a mixed group with one guy ganging up against him and start teasing him constantly. And his girlfriend has the main role in this show, when she loudly and theatrically complains to her friends about how bad he is, how little he cares about her, fucks her only three times a day and only tells her fifty times a week how much he loves her. If they didn’t tease him, it would mean only one thing, they are not interested in him at all, and if his girlfriend is among them, he seems to have problems in relationship.
Well he should work on his moves then and impress her.
Nah, I don’t see any bdsm-ish tendencies in her behavior, she doesn’t behave like a typical mistress in a leather outfit. I'd say she's very gentle and submissive with him (although she almost always initiates intercourse) and they've been pretty vanilla so far in private.
It's hard to argue with that. But you don't mean that Miru is keeping him around by brute force, right?
But he can have cowardly (in the sense of fear of the consequences of his actions) and selfish motivation, but at the same time act with determination, showing a strong will in achieving his selfish goals. I don't see any real contradiction here.
What the hell, half the plots of literature are based on stupid decisions and their consequences.
What are you talking about, Steam dudes are spreading rumors about a third game he's about to launchFor me, when WiaB ends, that's it. There is nothing else. Fuck SG.
Eh, don't get your hopes up. I feel like he'll end up giving up on both games, sooner or later. If he just chooses to focus on one game, maybe one of them will see the light of day and get the "completed" tag.
I agree.
As Ocean has just entered a lease for 10K worth of video cards, he's unlikely to give up soon. He's about to hit a major target with the steam release. I can't imagine what he'd use the video cards for other that his intended purpose. I'm not getting my hopes up, simply because greater capacity technically simply means more chances to be a perfectionist. I know that myself too well.
I think this is the value of Ocean's world building - the characters aren't merely puppets for the MC, they actually have their own opinions. THey can also disagree without needing to make everything a serious problem, they can be childish and not 100% calculating. We see Willi knows how to game Katie, getting her to reveal info, using her resentment at him as a lever if need be. Although he's implusive and an asshole, he's also clever enough to let that be a mask. The way he dealt with Donna kinda shows to me he's not as superficial as he pretends to be.In my opinion, most of the situations you are talking about is an ancient ritual where girls in a mixed group with one guy ganging up against him and start teasing him constantly. And his girlfriend has the main role in this show, when she loudly and theatrically complains to her friends about how bad he is, how little he cares about her, fucks her only three times a day and only tells her fifty times a week how much he loves her. If they didn’t tease him, it would mean only one thing, they are not interested in him at all, and if his girlfriend is among them, he seems to have problems in relationship.
In the meantime, Miru acts in the MC's best interests. She spies on his relatives and collects information for him. He has no idea how to behave with them now, after a long break. She helps him with that. And the situation with Helen is driving him crazy, he doesn’t understand what the hell is going on here.
In Katie's situation, I see Miru as a driving instructor who, perhaps somewhat rudely, points out the MC's mistakes in real time and demands that they be corrected. Wouldn't you agree that the ultimate goal of her actions is to help MC find common ground with the grown-up Katie and get rid of the old quarells?
In the scene with Gina, Miru gets angry at him when he greets Gina in a rude manner. It is clear that the MC and Gina have such a close relationship that a joke about her weight is not perceived by her as something offensive, but nevertheless, this is still asshole behavior on his part and Miru immediately lets the MC know about it.
Well he should work on his moves then and impress her.
Whether he is bored or not is up to you, the player, to decide.
Nah, I don’t see any bdsm-ish tendencies in her behavior, she doesn’t behave like a typical mistress in a leather outfit. I'd say she's very gentle and submissive with him (although she almost always initiates intercourse) and they've been pretty vanilla so far in private.
It's hard to argue with that. But you don't mean that Miru is keeping him around by brute force, right?
But he can have cowardly (in the sense of fear of the consequences of his actions) and selfish motivation, but at the same time act with determination, showing a strong will in achieving his selfish goals. I don't see any real contradiction here.
I think the fact that he ran away from home instead of trying to resolve the conflict just shows that he was a typical teenager who had no life experience and acted impulsively without thinking.
If he had put his will and determination into finding a better solution, I'm sure he wouldn't have had to run away and we wouldn't have WiAB, because there would be nothing to tell about
And at least I don't think he was acting selfishly. Stupid, yes, but he believed that he was protecting his loved ones and saving his family from breaking.
