VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[hellomate1]

Oh yeah, there was that.

On a side note, I went looking to see the two versions of adult Willi in the old version... any way, I missed that Elena Petrova made her money as a lawyer, and she's the prosecutor in Willi's case in the old version. I literally missed that.



That's the context when Leia says what she says



She's wary of Elena because lawyers go after shady people like Leia. The implication of look, but don't touch or you'll get burnt in jail is strong. This makes the ZPR thing even more interesting: Elena is the lawyer for the group trying to bring the Zane's down in the old version, and Donna is their agent. In SG, Sasha has Leia's earring.

I don't know how I missed that. Probably just I didn't pay attention when I played it back then.

This I'm not so certain of, but I believe there is a dialogue exchange in SG where it is specifically mentioned that Sasha's family is the "P" in ZPR, and the "P" is mentioned to stand for "Petrova" in another exchange. I'd have to look for my notes and look through 'em though.

 

[BobTheDuck]

This I'm not so certain of, but I believe there is a dialogue exchange in SG where it is specifically mentioned that Sasha's family is the "P" in ZPR, and the "P" is mentioned to stand for "Petrova" in another exchange. I'd have to look for my notes and look through 'em though.

Oh yeah, that's definitely a known fact of the current reworked version. The clearest mention in SG is in ch 4.5 (I think) where Nika is talking with Mila about golf at the Frohn's after the dinner with Nick.

mi "Her name is Sasha Petrova. You knew that right? And that they own part of the college?"
d "So that is what the P in ZPR stands for?"
mi "Yup. Zane, Petrova, Revera."

We haven't seen Elena in the reworked WiaB yet, so no idea if that basic info will be relevant, but I'm guessing so, as Donna (Revera) is still a creepy suspicious character up to no good. But it does explain her wealth - she won 249 of 252 court cases and mainly had companies as clients.

da "Who the fuck is suing you?!"
da "She only works for big companies and very very VERY rich people.."

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

I think it was the prison flashback where Will meets Miru. And that model looks a lot like Nika's model from Summer's Gone, iirc.

Was that on the old version?? because in the one i have played ,i have not seen a flashback like this

 

[BobTheDuck]

Was that on the old version?? because in the one i have played ,i have not seen a flashback like this

Yep, the old version pre-rework.

 

[Katie4Ever]

 

[notakernelguy]

Was Ocean's Patreon banned? Or did he delete it himself?

 

[wizardcock]

wiab patreon page deleted, its not a joke

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

wiab patreon page deleted, its not a joke

It's actually not a joke...

 

[ItsNotUs]

 

[Mirewen]

Any hope on this game being published before this site is Patreon also? because read only means no more free downloads....

 

[Ilhares]

Any hope on this game being published before this site is Patreon also? because read only means no more free downloads....

You realize that 'read' only means you absolutely could download things, as merely reading a page downloads it to your computer. And also, watch out for low flying aircraft.

 

[ArsenHumby]

Surprising how many people ate the april fools joke

 

[Elhemeer]

You realize that 'read' only means you absolutely could download things, as merely reading a page downloads it to your computer. And also, watch out for low flying aircraft.

Not that it matters, 'cause "duh"*, but I think they meant it would mean no new stuff would be added to the site, so the next update wouldn't be uploaded if it was after the change.

*Yea, yea, I was tired when I got home from work yesterday ...

 

[Krytax123]

What's up with wiab's patreon guys? Im really confused about that, the site isnt even under investigation, its completly removed.

Im confused because i cant see any reason? There is no non-con, rape, loli or anything like that and no incest (yet), what could have led to the avn being banned?

Cant be related to his discord (happened to a few other devs) or the sg page would be gone too, any clues?

 

[Deleted member 863691]

What's up with wiab's patreon guys? Im really confused about that, the site isnt even under investigation, its completly removed.

Im confused because i cant see any reason? There is no non-con, rape, loli or anything like that and no incest (yet), what could have led to the avn being banned?

Cant be related to his discord (happened to a few other devs) or the sg page would be gone too, any clues?

99.9% sure that this is not an april fools.

Patreon has been purging any games with incest over the past few months, as they clearly violate the Patreon terms & conditions. WiAB was always at risk of this too, because incest is heavly implied in the game and was a big part of the OG-WiAB. Ocean is prepared for this and has made some hints regarding Patreon possibly purging his WiAB-Account.
Last Bibi-News:

Regarding WiAB

I'm aware there wasn't a Dev Log and the reason isn't the Steam release or that I'm too busy but something else. I can't get into it right now for some very good reasons, but I will be able to tell you guys everything in around 2 weeks.

You'll understand after I'll tell you.

You don't need to worry about WiAB. It's still in development, and that won't change... No matter what happens... or has happened.

WiAB will go on Steam & GOG with the next update. (One update earlier than expected.)

We also updated the rules. Please take a look at them.

There's also a section for other game developers.


This was posted exactly 2 weeks ago. We will probably get an update tomorrow on his Discord or with the Dev log. Also Summer's Gone Full Remake/Steam Realease should be released any day now, unless Steam takes longer than expected.

Very sad how it all turned out but it was to be expected - Ocean knew the risk.
I'm sure he has a very good plan on how to tackle this situation.


Those Patreon-rules regarding Incest are also the reason why in the Summer's Gone Remake of Chapter 1-3 Ocean has removed any hints at Nami & Nika (MC) being siblings or in some other way related. Many theories include some of the SG-characters to be related but looking at what is happening to WiAB right now, I don't see Ocean taking that risk again.
I am curious how the story will play out regarding this.

 

[Zeniks1895]

The page is not under investigation, just deleted. That probably means he decided to delete it himself. Patreon doesn't seem to be deleting pages but just pausing them until the developer starts fulfilling their platform requirements or has something changed? This is all very strange.

 

[Krytax123]

99.9% sure that this is not an april fools.

Patreon has been purging any games with incest over the past few months, as they clearly violate the Patreon terms & conditions. WiAB was always at risk of this too, because incest is heavly implied in the game and was a big part of the OG-WiAB. Ocean is prepared for this and has made some hints regarding Patreon possibly purging his WiAB-Account.
Last Bibi-News:

Regarding WiAB

I'm aware there wasn't a Dev Log and the reason isn't the Steam release or that I'm too busy but something else. I can't get into it right now for some very good reasons, but I will be able to tell you guys everything in around 2 weeks.

You'll understand after I'll tell you.

You don't need to worry about WiAB. It's still in development, and that won't change... No matter what happens... or has happened.

WiAB will go on Steam & GOG with the next update. (One update earlier than expected.)

We also updated the rules. Please take a look at them.

There's also a section for other game developers.


This was posted exactly 2 weeks ago. We will probably get an update tomorrow on his Discord or with the Dev log. Also Summer's Gone Full Remake/Steam Realease should be released any day now, unless Steam takes longer than expected.

Very sad how it all turned out but it was to be expected - Ocean knew the risk.
I'm sure he has a very good plan on how to tackle this situation.


Those Patreon-rules regarding Incest are also the reason why in the Summer's Gone Remake of Chapter 1-3 Ocean has removed any hints at Nami & Nika (MC) being siblings or in some other way related. Many theories include some of the SG-characters to be related but looking at what is happening to WiAB right now, I don't see Ocean taking that risk again.
I am curious how the story will play out regarding this.

Of course it’s not a joke, the site is completely removed. And I can see why it would have been at the risk of a ban in the future because of the possible incest.

But at this point in the story there is no incest shown at all, no lewds and not even a kiss .. so how can it be banned for that reason?

 

[Krytax123]

The page is not under investigation, just deleted. That probably means he decided to delete it himself. Patreon doesn't seem to be deleting pages but just pausing them until the developer starts fulfilling their platform requirements or has something changed? This is all very strange.

Deleted is worse than under Investigation (the dev can still argue/change things to get it back). Removed is final as far as I know.

The same happened to Summer Scent too (immediate removal).

While other avns like my bully is my lover were under investigation and able to get their account back

 

[Maviarab]

The page is not under investigation, just deleted. That probably means he decided to delete it himself. Patreon doesn't seem to be deleting pages but just pausing them until the developer starts fulfilling their platform requirements or has something changed? This is all very strange.

Patreon do just delete/remove pages without warning if they feel like it.

 

[Zeniks1895]

Patreon do just delete/remove pages without warning if they feel like it.

Well, thanks for clearing that up. I didn't realise they'd become so aggressive. But again, as the users above pointed out, this makes no sense. There is no loli, rape or even incest in the game (even with that patch from an unknown modder). What could be the cause? I guess we'll have to wait for Ocean to explain.