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Right now SG isn't monotonous because there's no NTR or sex, it's monotonous because there's no update.
The same applies to WiAB.
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The same applies to WiAB.
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mmmm, nop, no way... WIAB is all but monotonous right now. From the already legendary and corrected Log to now it is pure vertigo!Right now SG isn't monotonous because there's no NTR or sex, it's monotonous because there's no update.
The same applies to WiAB.
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how often does he posts logs?mmmm, nop, no way... WIAB is all but monotonous right now. From the already legendary and corrected Log to now it is pure vertigo!
Chad like, once a week, or the gae way like Chasing Sunsets at 1 month + ?
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He used to intercalate logs, so there was one every week. But he realized that he was repeating a lot of the info and moved both logs to the same day. When it was every week there was more to talk about, but now the logs feel more "robust".so, in the closet. got it
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Ok i give you homework go on filter and sort after ratingWhat makes a game monotonous is the lack of an interesting plot, poorly written cardboard characters, poorly written dialogue, lack of suspense, the author's inability to touch the player's emotions, and not the presence or absence of certain fetishes. I skip 95% of the content in 95% of NTR games because they are unbearably dumb. This shit is very niche, and in my opinion works in extremely limited range of plots. However, as does the harem. If this game is interesting, it's certainly not because it has NTR, which, by the way, is optional.
You talk a lot about drama, intrigue, competition, but for some reason all this in your opinion only appears with the addition of NTR to each game. Who are you trying to fool?
The good news is that Ocean has reiterated several times that there will be no NTR in SG.
And take all this 5 star games
How many of them have a actually good plot .... exactly almost NONE and why is it this way....... its the lack of losing ,intrigues , competition,drama ,possibilities to lose/win ..... and so on
Your rivals are pointless if they suck ....winning dosent matter if you cant lose ... intiuges are boring if you already know you can choose answer blindfolded and win...you have zero feel of actually treath because the world is designed for the chads ( a save space world for waifu pillow bros)
Most games are like big booty bitches,college , spin bottle thats it,burning houses
... and I cant really blame the devs because it sells most but its most steril and boring world design ...its basicly ubisoft /EA of VN games we need qualitie stuff not this fast food VN stuff over and over again ..
They definitly have good renders but thats it so I hope WIAB goes into a more qualitie direction
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You are just lying, but keep it up, as long as you believe yourself, you will be able to enjoy your favorite games, while I will enjoy all those "5 stars games" in the list.Ok i give you homework go on filter and sort after rating
And take all this 5 star games
How many of them have a actually good plot .... exactly almost NONE and why is it this way....... its the lack of losing ,intrigues , competition,drama ,possibilities to lose/win ..... and so on
Your rivals are pointless if they suck ....winning dosent matter if you cant lose ... intiuges are boring if you already know you can choose answer blindfolded and win...you have zero feel of actually treath because the world is designed for the chads ( a save space world for waifu pillow bros)
Most games are like big booty bitches,college , spin bottle thats it,burning houses
its basicly ubisoft /EA of VN games we need qualitie stuff not this fast food VN stuff over and over again ..
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You have a very strange and narrow idea of what conflict in a story should be. For you, it's all about fighting for pussy. Even in this game, there's conflict between crime families, internal character conflicts, conflicts between... um... household members, and all that.Ok i give you homework go on filter and sort after rating
And take all this 5 star games
How many of them have a actually good plot .... exactly almost NONE and why is it this way....... its the lack of losing ,intrigues , competition,drama ,possibilities to lose/win ..... and so on
Your rivals are pointless if they suck ....winning dosent matter if you cant lose ... intiuges are boring if you already know you can choose answer blindfolded and win...you have zero feel of actually treath because the world is designed for the chads ( a save space world for waifu pillow bros)
Most games are like big booty bitches,college , spin bottle thats it,burning houses
its basicly ubisoft /EA of VN games we need qualitie stuff not this fast food VN stuff over and over again ..
And no, I'm not doing your homework, and you know why? Because discussing other games in the game's on-topic thread is off-topic. You can choose an off-topic thread for this kind of conversations, like this one.
https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-off-topic.186269/
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Why you ping me!!!! only because i play all those 5 star games???
edit: and now you edit the post... I am not a madman, I was summoned!!!!
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I just think you have no idea how tension arc works and why game of thrones is so sucessful ....
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Game of Thrones is not helping you, at all. Find a different pitch.
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I don't remember NTR in ASOIAF. I get your point but I don't get equalize tension with NTR. NTR can provide a type of tension but to say that a story with out NTR can not work is not true.
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I regret it alreadyWhy you ping me!!!! only because i play all those 5 star games???
edit: and now you edit the post... I am not a madman, I was summoned!!!!
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But yeah, I didn't notice the saved quote.In my favorites list is, I think, ~10% of the games from pages 1-5 of games sorted by rating. People like weird stuff.
Sorry, I had covid while watching GoT so I threw up all the time and now I strongly associate GoT with vomiting.
But don't worry, I love how Ocean creates tension in his games and that it doesn't involve putting the chosen LI under every guy to strengthen our bond.
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Dude it's cool. Just own your kink. It's yours. We're not stopping you. Find your happiness in it wherever it may be.
I find elastic bands have tension, so we can add more tension by including slingshots. Or, for a more kink based thing, shibari's all about tension. Don't need NTR for all the kinds of tension. Not my thing, but someone will go nuts for that content saying it opened their third eye to what WiaB is really all about if OCean added that.
Fuck, there's tension whenever Helen tries to put on clothes or shoes!
But some people really just like well written stories about Katie. So let us have our kinks too.Good thing Ocean let's us chose how we want to play ...well, when the next up dat is out I guess he will let us play it and not just admire it from afar
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from wich game that pictures under your comments?Admit you were the one that snitched to Patreon beacuse his constant reworks were foiling your theorycrafting.
Like the prior topic, NTR is not essential to this story. So much so that Ocean made it optional. It's a kink. Games like Inside Jennifer wouldn't function w/o it, but WiAB only benefits from it in the eyes of those who enjoy that kink - at least currently. And that option exists for them and hurts no one who doesn't want it. The prior topic doesn't bc Ocean is afraid of losing his 6 figure per year income if it persists openly.
We can certainly argue how the cries against NTR go waaaay too far. Is there a love interest you reject who then moves on to another character? People cry NTR. Does a LI come into the story while currently in a relationship? People cry NTR. A side characters gives a LI a side-eyed glance? People cry NTR. There are a lot of people here who want puritanical, subservient bags of meat and bones and openly cry about it on every single thread.
You could certainly write a NTR path that would be superior to what we currently have in either path for this story. If Leia's actions behind the scenes led to the current events, where instead of simply an accident where Helen loses her voice, Helen instead gets SA'd and loses her voice due to that event, it would be infinitely more emotionally impactful. It would be easy to justify bc Leia likes to emasculate even her favorite, William, talking about him possessively even after years of separation. Gangs of criminals have needed far less justification for such behavior in real life than what Leia represents. From there, William, Leia and Katie's actions could dictate if or who suffers a similar or worse fate as you navigate to discover who is behind it all and how to stop them.
That's just to say it COULD be a more impactful story if NTR were involved. Based on the prior iteration of this game, I don't think Ocean is even capable of writing "good" NTR. It's like watching the bonus scene between Helen and Miru in the gallery. You can watch something happen, but it does nothing to drive the story forward. I'm not a fan of the VN's that you are reduced down to "Sex - Yes or No" and that's how his NTR plays out.
If something doesn't add to a character or story, it shouldn't exist. Even sex in an AVN. This is the biggest problem in modern day storytelling. They want to drag the story out as long as possible and that leads to people getting fed up and giving up on the story. The Walking Dead was the greatest example of such writing. Now, due to early success, EVERYONE tries to replicate it. They ignore how we have almost universally turned against that show in hindsight. And we certainly see a LOT of that type of writing even amongst the best VN's out there.
We can certainly argue how the cries against NTR go waaaay too far. Is there a love interest you reject who then moves on to another character? People cry NTR. Does a LI come into the story while currently in a relationship? People cry NTR. A side characters gives a LI a side-eyed glance? People cry NTR. There are a lot of people here who want puritanical, subservient bags of meat and bones and openly cry about it on every single thread.
You could certainly write a NTR path that would be superior to what we currently have in either path for this story. If Leia's actions behind the scenes led to the current events, where instead of simply an accident where Helen loses her voice, Helen instead gets SA'd and loses her voice due to that event, it would be infinitely more emotionally impactful. It would be easy to justify bc Leia likes to emasculate even her favorite, William, talking about him possessively even after years of separation. Gangs of criminals have needed far less justification for such behavior in real life than what Leia represents. From there, William, Leia and Katie's actions could dictate if or who suffers a similar or worse fate as you navigate to discover who is behind it all and how to stop them.
That's just to say it COULD be a more impactful story if NTR were involved. Based on the prior iteration of this game, I don't think Ocean is even capable of writing "good" NTR. It's like watching the bonus scene between Helen and Miru in the gallery. You can watch something happen, but it does nothing to drive the story forward. I'm not a fan of the VN's that you are reduced down to "Sex - Yes or No" and that's how his NTR plays out.
If something doesn't add to a character or story, it shouldn't exist. Even sex in an AVN. This is the biggest problem in modern day storytelling. They want to drag the story out as long as possible and that leads to people getting fed up and giving up on the story. The Walking Dead was the greatest example of such writing. Now, due to early success, EVERYONE tries to replicate it. They ignore how we have almost universally turned against that show in hindsight. And we certainly see a LOT of that type of writing even amongst the best VN's out there.
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You do know there was actual NTR in the story in the prison scene right? where you either got the shit beaten out of you orwatched the gang leader fuck Miru whenever she can for prison visits? Problem was, no one really liked old Miru, so it was "meh". Or Miru with her ex? Already the ground work for Miru cheating is so much more believable in the new version. In the old version we don't know where pushing Miru to do certain things lead, because not only was she unapealling to most, the original story got reworked into something more believable.
Gotta remember this is really early days for any proper NTR to happen. Probably won't have anything serious BFORE Willi starts committing to the other LI's.
Also, rating NTR by how much it makes you feel for characters you don't have a good connection with, well, that's how I rate games - connections to a character - how believeable the character is. That isn't based on NTR, it's based on good writing. Plenty of movies with no cheating that I've enjoyed.
Hi, can someone spoil what type of NTR content this game contains?
The NTR tag on this site can mean so many things, some of which I don't mind others which aren't my thing.
Not looking to join the ususal Love NTR/Hate NTR war, just never played this game b4 and enjoyed Summers Gone so I want to try but I'm not sure what is removed if I toggle off.
(Also, yes I did try searching 1st but all I found were comments arguing about what they personally like)
The NTR tag on this site can mean so many things, some of which I don't mind others which aren't my thing.
Not looking to join the ususal Love NTR/Hate NTR war, just never played this game b4 and enjoyed Summers Gone so I want to try but I'm not sure what is removed if I toggle off.
(Also, yes I did try searching 1st but all I found were comments arguing about what they personally like)
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As of right now there is no NTR. As for what type of might be, all types. Sharing, cuckolding, Bull and Netori all are hinted at but the story has not reached the point to this to happen. And of course, everything is optinal.