Raynare69
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What were the prison scenes like in the old version? I never did check it out but am curious if you could give me the full run down / spoilers and all, if you don't mind!
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ToxicMelody1
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Oh no your gf is hot now after the update....so now I can't just willy nilly let the guys in prison fck her because I thought she was ugly asf!!!
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There were actually very few 'prison scenes'...but they mostly consisted of dealing with one of the guards (you could fuck her) and the boss man with Miru from memory (if you used Miru to appease him for protection). There were a number of ways of progressing through that and getting out either injured or uninjured (which then affected things with Katie).
Raynare69
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That actually sounds pretty interesting! Since the story is a bit different now, when exactly did this take place? I assume before the events of the current story? Since in the current story he said he wasn't able to come back sooner because he was in prison (but didn't go into detail about it)
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No this happened in the current (what was the current) timeline. He was really stiched up IIRC, whether he will do 'another stint' inside or not remains to be seen. The core of the story is the same but events are now largely different. How much will remain from the old plot we can only guess at, though the camping trip is still happening (where the old version stopped).
BobTheDuck
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I'll hide in spoilers, because even though old WiaB was restarted 3 years ago, some people don't know it and they won't want to hear it before/if it happens in new WiaB)
Willi either has sex with Donna Revera (who can get pregnant from it) while taking Lucas on a night out or encounters a girl called Ashley Treaster (from memory) who sets him up. in either case, he is accused of rape. Abigail knows it's fake, but has to send him to prison. The warden is corrupt and puts Willi in with the most violent inmates and makes sure they know he's a rapist. Uncle Joe is there and protects him. You can dominate one of the female inmates. But Joe is released, so you're left to decide to either beat up Abigails agent, get fucked up by the inmates because rapists are scum ...or offer the inmate's gang leader Miru when she visits, and he sends you videos of what he does to her.
This was probably about now in the story time wise - you hadn't learnt much more than in the new version by this point. A few other things had happened, but not really much more.
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Thank you guys for the explanations! I think my own memory is pretty fuzzy of even the current state of the game, so I'm going to have to do a replay through here soon, since I just finished my recent SG replay.
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Kakasan
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I liked Old Prison for this reason:
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Kakasan
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I only played the Beta, but from what they said there was a flashback in the full version
BobTheDuck
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Just to add to this:
The reason I find it interesting is that Donna is the FIRST person in the Oceanverse to get pregnant. Even if this is no longer canon, it has the impact that it is the very start of the Revera's allying with the Zane's - you can choose to protect Donna, so she can testify that it wasn't rape. It's the moment that she choses sides, and it's defined by a child, who is probably the Revera on the first team. We also have no idea if Donna is froma rich family, in both versions of the game she just seemed like an average person; so her social standing (ie being part of ZPR) could entirely be due to getting pregnant from Willi, and in gratitude for her choosing the Zane side in whatever happens.
This is even before we have an idea of when Ayua is conceived we don't even know if Ayua ISN'T the NTR child of a prisoner that WIlli raised in guilt for putting Miru through that whole situation where she sleeps with the prison gang boss to keep Willi safe.
I know these ideas are about info that's no longer canon, but it really is quite something to keep in mind about the direction of the game, and the kind of game Ocean's making, the kind of potential ideas that are floating around for Ocean's plot devics - it's really not a lightweight thing at all.
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How much is this intertwined with SG? Are there any visible connections at the current stage of the story?
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You'll get better answers by others, but a few characters appear in both games. This game is, literally where it begins, apparently the rise of several influential more or less criminal families/organisations that will probably pay a role in all five games.
BobTheDuck
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- WiaB is set 20 years before in the same city, Wollust
- The main character is Willi Zane, who is part of the Zane family who run ZPR in WiaB
- Katie Zane is seen in both games so far, Leia and Willi Zane are mentioned in SG
- Ayua is a Zane, but we don't know 100% who the parents are, but a Zane. Most likely Willi and Miru.
- Zoey's brother Stefan is the person who Nika and Bella steal the heirloom from in SG
- Emilio the barber from SG is Leia's right hand in WiaB
- Sasha's mother Elena in SG was a lawyer in old pre rework WiaB, prosecuting William and was intended to be an LI I believe, and is part of the owner of the ZPR college (Petrova)
- Donna who stalks Willi is a Revera, also a family that runs ZPR in SG.
So pretty significant connections already.
StingerWolf
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So essentially, if one wants to have a more complete experience with SG, he should dip his toes into WiaB?
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Yes.
SG is perfectly enjoyable on its own, but also playing WiaB adds depth, as well as being a fun game.
BobTheDuck
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100%. It's also (in my opinion) the better game. Don't get me wrong though, I enjoy both, and I see them as one game. I don't know if the goal is to have a subconscious thread that carries through both, currently if feels like the baton is handed on and SG is the story of the current generation.
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The cast were cloned by some evil scientist?
I know what you meant but it sounded a bit odd