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VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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Euron13

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UncleFredo said:
You might consider lightening up.
If you've read the thread, according to Ocean, putting out this rework and the stress related impact on his life has caused him to look at his game development differently. Paraphrasing his comments, rather than his endless drive to approach perfection, he's recognized the benefits of "good enough". Now I suspect his definition of good enough will still be of impressive quality, but it does offer the potential for more frequent updates.

Given his recent history, with shingles and stress, I have no doubt that he is entirely serious about altering his approach. What I wonder is if, 3 months from now with shingles in the rearview mirror, he can maintain that view. We'll all have to wait and see.

While I'm sure there are a few exceptions, I think the vast majority of us want Ocean to release updates to both of his games much more frequently. In the meantime, how about we give the man a break? We have nothing to lose. Absolutely nothing.
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I’m not even being critical, I’m being absolutely realistic in what the potential time frame is for the next release given what I’ve seen from Ocean in the development of this game. Even before the big rework, going back even before the revamped visual style there were long gaps between updates. It is what it is.

Would I like more frequent updates? Sure. But I’ve heard this all before. Managing time better, updating the rigs to better optimise how much work is produced, getting a better balance and flow of work and mental health etc. I have no reason to believe that this time is going to be any different. And there are outside factors to consider like whatever happens with Summer’s Gone you have to expect.

You asked when people think the next update will drop? Me saying that it’s probably going to be closer to 12 months than 6 between updates is a genuine assessment. I think being honest and acknowledging that is better off than setting unrealistic expectations and then being disappointed down the line when things have hit a snag.
 
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Therod said:
What makes the reworked beta different from the past versions?
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99 % new content and plots...the old chapters wasn't complete , i mean the hook of the old contents didn't go deep enough to catch the intended effect , not at least for the dev and it certainly didn't do it for me and it's different for others and i'm not touching that.

Yeah ..yeah ....reworked chapter 1 ended at the same place as it was in the old chapter 1 but that doesn't mean the rest of the being reworked new chapters will end just like the old ones only with high quality and animations.

They are gonna be totally different , you will see some of the plots of the old chapters 3 to 5 in the new chapter 2 , that means the old counting of the chapters from 1 to 5 doesn't count anymore.

It is a new start and reborn for 'Where It All Began'.
 
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I don't know you all, but for me the old game had a good plot development and i really liked getting close to the "bratty sis" character (forgive me if i don't remember her name). I'm a little upset everything has been thrown away, the dev Oceanlab should have made another game with another title and abandon this one.
 
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I like the rework. Miru already was great but now... omg, she is so hot :love:. Too early to judge the overhauled story but I sure like the writing and pace. And the graphics and animations are simply stunning, really well done.
All in all imho very promising, congrats Oceanlab (y)
 
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Fap2766

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I'm happy with whatever pace a dev decides to work at, as long as they are honest about the timelines. However, it does worry me slightly that a perfectionist such as Ocean (and I say that as a compliment) will want to focus on constantly remaking a VN rather than progressing it - you can see the visual quality improvements here quite clearly. But I would say a good story is what really draws most people in. I would prefer to see a complete story and then go back and remaster. Just my opinion though!
 
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so they are reworking it to drift away from that? i can dig it but at the same time the way the last updated ended i kinda wanted to know what happen next
 
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Ahx said:
99 % new content and plots...the old chapters wasn't complete , i mean the hook of the old contents didn't go deep enough to catch the intended effect , not at least for the dev and it certainly didn't do it for me and it's different for others and i'm not touching that.

Yeah ..yeah ....reworked chapter 1 ended at the same place as it was in the old chapter 1 but that doesn't mean the rest of the being reworked new chapters will end just like the old ones only with high quality and animations.

They are gonna be totally different , you will see some of the plots of the old chapters 3 to 5 in the new chapter 2 , that means the old counting of the chapters from 1 to 5 doesn't count anymore.

It is a new start and reborn for 'Where It All Began'.
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Good to know. I played the original version for a few releases I think, so I can just start with the rework and ignore anything beforehand.
 
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