VN Ren'Py Whoremonger NTE [Act 3 - Part 1 - Beta] [Turning Tricks]

[remillon]

It's been a while. Mainly because I was alternating between working on this VN and my other one A Dark Horse Riding.

I've decided to finish this VN first though and will be devoting 99% of my time to it until it's finished. Then I will finish Dark Horse.

I'm spending anywhere from 3-8 hours per day on this update... some days I'll do 10 or more hours. And this is every single day. Even the days where I have appointments or other commitments, I'll usually find an hour or two to set up some new wardrobes or start building a new set or anything that keeps the progress moving forward.

Right now, my best estimate is that I will be done renders by the end of this month. Then I will have to put it all together and I 'should' be done sometime in the middle of next month. It's going to be a big update - 13 scenes, probably on the order of 1000-1200 static renders and approximately 50 animations (which is another 3K or so animation renders). A bunch of new music, new gallery pics and some new easter eggs.

So don't fear! I'll release the update "Soon™"

its impressive how you've managed to put out two bangers. I was playing long road home today and man I was missing your games.

 

[Niels Holgersson]

It's been a while. Mainly because I was alternating between working on this VN and my other one A Dark Horse Riding.

I've decided to finish this VN first though and will be devoting 99% of my time to it until it's finished. Then I will finish Dark Horse.

I'm spending anywhere from 3-8 hours per day on this update... some days I'll do 10 or more hours. And this is every single day. Even the days where I have appointments or other commitments, I'll usually find an hour or two to set up some new wardrobes or start building a new set or anything that keeps the progress moving forward.

Right now, my best estimate is that I will be done renders by the end of this month. Then I will have to put it all together and I 'should' be done sometime in the middle of next month. It's going to be a big update - 13 scenes, probably on the order of 1000-1200 static renders and approximately 50 animations (which is another 3K or so animation renders). A bunch of new music, new gallery pics and some new easter eggs.

So don't fear! I'll release the update "Soon™"

Well here we are on the 11th of December, and still no update, but you did say "soon", is that soon in 2025?

 

[Turning Tricks]

Well here we are on the 11th of December, and still no update, but you did say "soon", is that soon in 2025?

There will be an update before Christmas.

I've decided to split this update into two releases, just because it would be rushed trying to get the whole thing polished up in time for Xmas. And I really want to get something out before the holidays.

So basically - as I told my subs a few days ago - I'll drop Act 3 - part 1 just before Christmas. Then I will will drop part 2 a couple of weeks later, in the first half of January.

All the renders are done for the whole 13 scene Act 3, but I have a ton of animations to finish processing and the dialogue to write. Part 1 is coming along nicely and I am confident there won't be any other delays (ya, like that's never bit me in the ass before... lol!)

 

[Lgerthalives]

Any android version please?

 

[Turning Tricks]

Any android version please?

There was one done by a fan in the thread here somewhere.

In any case, when I drop Act 3 - part 1, I will include an Android build as well. I started doing them with the last release of Dark Horse Riding, so I can make them for Whoremonger now as well.

 

[Lord Bradley]

On one hand I wouldn't mind this game having massive success and influx of giant community, but on other hand I can treat this game as my rough little diamond that most people think is just a grey rock rustling in my pocket. This year in my experience was pretty disappointing from the "big shots" of the industry, but luckily some underrated developers delivered and especially when they have a release on holidays to end the year with a bang. I really appreciate that and wish nothing but success going forward to this game!

 

[remillon]

eagerly waiting for the new update

 

[Turning Tricks]

eagerly waiting for the new update

Very soon(tm)!

I've been working the dialogue for the last couple of days (well, not much yesterday, it being Christmas and all, lol)

All these damn paths I started early on are biting me in the ass right now, as I find myself writing the same basic scene over and over, with variations.

I should be testing the update by tomorrow evening, and it will hopefully be released on my SS page then. As usual, I'll post it here a couple of days after that.

 

[GustavoGanz]

Very soon(tm)!
All these damn paths I started early on are biting me in the ass right now,

I hope it doesn't ‘bite’ you so much - it would be stupid if you couldn't sit down to continue working because of the biting.

LOOOOL

 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Quick question. Starting a new playthrough to be ready for the impending update. During the intro/tutorial scene, the NTR discussion had me a little confused. It said there'd be netorare but not cuckolding, and I sorta thought those were essentially synonyms. Could someone clarify? What else is netorare that isn't cuckolding?

For context, in the NTR wars, I'd not be strictly on either side. I'm not the type to require blank slate virgins for all LIs (so flashbacks get a pass), but I also am not looking for cheating (neither willingly or via coercion). Netori is always ok and netorase is situational. And any LI that I'm not on the path for can do whatever they want, I actually like it when a game lets me set up the idiot best friend with someone I wasn't going for (like in LoF.) But I definitely do not have the jealousy -> arousal kink, quite the opposite because of personal history.

 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Oh a low priority UI note for Turning Tricks, it would be nice if when the Characters screen is opened, when clicking on any bio after the first that any other open bio window is closed, and closing the Characters screen also closes any open bio screens. Otherwise when you exit it the bio pages stay up and you have to click Close on all of them. But unless its super easy to implement, forget about it until next release.

Haha! Just got to the Dark Horse Rising cameo which I played for the first time since the last time I played this game. I use the same name for MCs in all my games, they are talking to each other and I can't really tell which is speaking if there aren't context clues (the face sprite doesn't always show up.)
Maybe add a little check there so that if the MC names match, use the default MC name for the DHR MC?

I'll throw another maybe bug notice on this post. I think that there is a missing condition combination in a certain scene. Day 24 at Joes in the morning, on the route excluding Olivia so she had carried through on her threat to have April find out about Maddie's uniform rebellion. In the discussion about catching her red handed and then spanking her, there are four combinations of text options (I'm seeing this with URM) : Not on Maddie path, April lust/Maddie love, lust/lust, and love/love. What seems to be missing is the path I'm on, April love / Maddie lust. I only noticed this because I saw that 4 way choice and then the scene seemed to abruptly end, so I went back and reviewed the other options and they were each rather detailed, even the non-Maddie path.

 

[Turning Tricks]

Oh a low priority UI note for Turning Tricks, it would be nice if when the Characters screen is opened, when clicking on any bio after the first that any other open bio window is closed, and closing the Characters screen also closes any open bio screens. Otherwise when you exit it the bio pages stay up and you have to click Close on all of them. But unless its super easy to implement, forget about it until next release.

Haha! Just got to the Dark Horse Rising cameo which I played for the first time since the last time I played this game. I use the same name for MCs in all my games, they are talking to each other and I can't really tell which is speaking if there aren't context clues (the face sprite doesn't always show up.)
Maybe add a little check there so that if the MC names match, use the default MC name for the DHR MC?

I'll throw another maybe bug notice on this post. I think that there is a missing condition combination in a certain scene. Day 24 at Joes in the morning, on the route excluding Olivia so she had carried through on her threat to have April find out about Maddie's uniform rebellion. In the discussion about catching her red handed and then spanking her, there are four combinations of text options (I'm seeing this with URM) : Not on Maddie path, April lust/Maddie love, lust/lust, and love/love. What seems to be missing is the path I'm on, April love / Maddie lust. I only noticed this because I saw that 4 way choice and then the scene seemed to abruptly end, so I went back and reviewed the other options and they were each rather detailed, even the non-Maddie path.

This update has some improvements for the character bio's. You'll be able to rename all the characters (and their nic names) right from their Bio pop-up's by just clicking their names. I did this mainly because of that issue with possibly having the same MC name in both VN's, lol. In the final versions I will add some warning at the beginning about possibly having crossover conflicts if you play both VN's.

Also, I really made a mess of some of the path choices early on in the NTE reboot. I've been slowly fixing them with each update. And for this update, I still kept some critical path choices, but a lot of others were simplified so that I don't have any sort of dead ends or paths that go nowhere. I was also really bad at coding the logic tests back then for the paths. I'm getting a lot better at that and it should show in this new content and moving forward. In that example you posted about the coffee shop discussion, the discipline scene is in this update and I simplified it down to basically (1) if you are on Maddie's path or not (2) If you are on April's Love path (3) on April's Lust path and (4) on April's Lust path with a switch from another new event I don't want to spoil. I made it so Maddie's Love/Lust path doesn't matter.

In Fact, this update has a lot of "discipline scenes" - haha! I think I might call it the Spanking Update! Just worked out that way with the scenes since I am only releasing the first 7 scenes in Part 1. Part 2 will have another 6 scenes from Act 3 and it will focus more on the girls (Maddie, Olivia) and have a large scene with Laura and Agnes. And of course there's going to be the big scene reuniting the MC with his daughter, who he hasn't seen in over 5 years.

As for NTR, it's always been pretty light. This update only has a few dialogue changes for an "NTR"'ish feel. I want to do some more special scenes but they probably won't appear until Act 4. The only real NTR so far has been Laura fucking Mark on camera to cuck her husband and April giving a lap dance to make Mark jealous. I probably won't have April doing anything anymore but I might make a scene involving some of the secondary characters... have to see what I can dream up.

Anyhow, I'll be dropping the updated release on here tomorrow Evening. It's up on my SubscribeStar page now and will be on Itch shortly.

 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

In the Walkthrough pdf (from itch), is this a change or a mistake?

Spoiler: Originally it was Maddie...

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[Turning Tricks]

In the Walkthrough pdf (from itch), is this a change or a mistake?

Spoiler: Originally it was Maddie...

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Typo. It is and was always Maddie. I never changed that part though, so that typo has been in there for a long time, lol

I'll fix it when I upload Part 2. Thx for the report. (and your Itch purchase)

 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Typo. It is and was always Maddie. I never changed that part though, so that typo has been in there for a long time, lol

I'll fix it when I upload Part 2. Thx for the report. (and your Itch purchase)

Dang you replied before I could edit. You're welcome.

I was gonna tack on to the bottom a thanks for being so detailed about what is and isn't available with the path combinations of Laura and Agnes. My very first playthough I didn't get on Laura's lewd path at all and didn't realize that locked me out of some Agnes stuff later.

 

[Turning Tricks]

Dang you replied before I could edit. You're welcome.

I was gonna tack on to the bottom a thanks for being so detailed about what is and isn't available with the path combinations of Laura and Agnes. My very first playthough I didn't get on Laura's lewd path at all and didn't realize that locked me out of some Agnes stuff later.

Well, both these VN's I am making are learning projects.

On my next project, I am locking down ALL the path choices before I even make a single render. I learned my lesson about just trying to make paths organically. Too easy to screw things up.

 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Is April's dialogue sprite correct? It doesn't look like her, I guess because she's never had hair that long in the story (not counting the wig, but that was even longer.)

Spoiler: SS of the sprite

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[Turning Tricks]

Is April's dialogue sprite correct? It doesn't look like her, I guess because she's never had hair that long in the story (not counting the wig, but that was even longer.)

Spoiler: SS of the sprite

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Ya, that's her. She has new hair this update and I personally like her new look. But ya, that's her and how she looks now. The coffee shop renders are probably not as well lit as the new sets because I am using the sets from way back in the original version of the game.

EDIT: Also, there's an issue with the coffee shop scene in that I accidentally left on April's stripper makeup. By the time I noticed it, I had already done the post processing and honestly had no time to redo them right now. I'll deal with them in the final versions.

 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Wrong-variable bug on day 5, during lunch with April,

Spoiler: Should be daughter's nickname, not her own.

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[Naps-On-Dirt]

Ya, that's her. She has new hair this update and I personally like her new look. But ya, that's her and how she looks now. The coffee shop renders are probably not as well lit as the new sets because I am using the sets from way back in the original version of the game.

EDIT: Also, there's an issue with the coffee shop scene in that I accidentally left on April's stripper makeup. By the time I noticed it, I had already done the post processing and honestly had no time to redo them right now. I'll deal with them in the final versions.

Only because I knew it was there I looked really close and could kinda see that her makeup was a bit fancier than necessary for jogging, but really its barely noticeable. ...oh wait, ok later in the scene when they're talking 1 on 1, its is somewhat more noticeable, and sometimes as the speaker switches and her expression changes, the glittery eyeshadow disappears but not the eyeliner.

Seeing her whole model (instead of just the sprite) makes me less hesitant about the new hair, she looks great.