Why are female characters so “ugly” in most European and American adult games?

[_user]

What the fuck loli are doing here ?

Well most of the asian erotica here comes from japan, and a decent chunk of that is loli. You can't really separate asian erotica from anime and in turn loli.

If anything it's you going offtopic, this thread is about art and depictions, not what actual asian women look like.

 

[anne O'nymous]

If anything it's you going offtopic,

Were did I said that someone was offtopic ?

this thread is about art and depictions, not what actual asian women look like.

Well, explaining why Asian women looks younger than their age also explain why art depict them younger than their age...

 

[_user]

Well, explaining why Asian women looks younger than their age also explain why art depict them younger than their age...

Meh. Anime just blurs any age gap and makes everyone look androgynous.

 

[Mr. Kin]

What the fuck loli are doing here ?


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And it's not just a joke.

Signs of age tend to be less perceptible in Asian women, because their skin contains more collagen, and therefore stay elastic for longer years. Among the consequences, wrinkles are less visible, and it's mostly on them that we judge someone's age. It's also assumed that the usual diet help to maintain the level of collagen for a longer time, what lead to the same consequence.

Said otherwise, Asian girls in most games just looks like Asian girls their age. It's us, none Asians, who aren't used to them, not them that are too young.

What I meant is that in some games, some girls look much younger than they actually are. I understand what you meant about them genuinely appearing younger genetically, but there are some games that take this too far. That's why I said that MAYBE some consider this "loli" culture. Not all of them.

 

[intuitionintuition]

He grown surrounded by women who fall in a limited range of aesthetics, what mean that he passed his puberty surrounded by them and it's what defined his criteria in terms of beauty; once again, to the exception of some personal kink that he would have acquired later.

this post explains many other opinions in this thread without invalidating either side.

combine this with the facts that:
I. asian women age better: look youthful for long time, hence US people think they are children
II. 2/3 of US population are overweight or obese
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III. web, payment, and content platforms who enforce arbitrary standards are US-centered (patreon, etc)
IV. DAZ, the most popular render tech stack, also follows US/western aesthetics

and it's no mystery why there are different standards enforced.

it explains many other arguments in this thread which could be interpreted as ad hominem: western women 'look like actual woman','not a corpse', 'not a loli' - same as these posters, the people controlling content platforms are US-centered and grew up around a 'different' beauty standard.

 

[tuvrelm11]

No offense and insults, but I'm really, really confused。
I'm an Asian and I can't understand why most of the 3D adult games, come from Europe and America. The female character looks terrible, with a face with a lot of edges and corners, like a hexagon. There is also a huge mouth and protruding lips, and there are a lot of black pieces, white pieces, and red pieces on the face.The skin is also poor, and all in all, most of the female characters look like a woman in her forties and fifties。All in all, the whole person looks weird。It's not even as good as a woman in reality。Why not do it like Final Fantasi and MONSTER HUNTER RISE ？
Or is it that many people really like this style or that the aesthetics are different in different regions?

It should be obvious, if you think about it. More than 99% of all these games are made by hobbyists and amateurs with no art background, not veteran professional artists. There's also the issue of DAZ being easily accessible with very generic stock models that rarely get edited. Since most games are made to make a quick buck and not as works of passion, why would the devs bother putting in more than the barest minimum effort?

The west-east beauty standard difference do exist, but personally I don't think they matter too much. Other that eastern characters have smoother features, thus look less "bad" overall when they're "bad". "Good" western or eastern characters will appeal to anyone. Grainy DAZ stock goblins rendered on a potato, or an amateur 2d artists first babby scribbles will obviously not. Just my opinion.

 

[Mr. Kin]

It should be obvious, if you think about it. More than 99% of all these games are made by hobbyists and amateurs with no art background, not veteran professional artists. There's also the issue of DAZ being easily accessible with very generic stock models that rarely get edited. Since most games are made to make a quick buck and not as works of passion, why would the devs bother putting in more than the barest minimum effort?

The west-east beauty standard difference do exist, but personally I don't think they matter too much. Other that eastern characters have smoother features, thus look less "bad" overall when they're "bad". "Good" western or eastern characters will appeal to anyone. Grainy DAZ stock goblins rendered on a potato, or an amateur 2d artists first babby scribbles will obviously not. Just my opinion.

Thinking that way, i agree with you. Most devs dont have a art background.

 

[Mysterious Enjoyer XX]

i really don't know why people are argue about western vs Asia taste. i mean i am Asia but i still believe that western would find Botox botch 40 year old no-fat cheek to be ugly. like yeah i prefer anime-like but there is plenty of thicc and kinda weird western art game that i still love. on the other hand i find some of these that have female wide-eye small lip like anime cartoon, to be ugly as hell.


to answer the question, i believe it just an unintentional bias. due to most upstart dev, that is just a smutt writer decide to post their game on some forum(in this case being f95) that would allow people to see and promote their work. it result in f95 being unofficial mod forum for those said game. and in turn result in people that like those style of game. due to maybe they like daz face maybe they just like the story, to gather in one place which make it look like a bunch of english speaker love botch surgery.


i still find it hard to defend those botch face clearly low quality out of a Daz default model thou. i feel like you guy that defend these shit is like a Morty when he jack off to a wood plank, except he never stop doing it and start to grow attract to it everyday.

but yeah i think most people that play those game probably don't care about those bible accurate daz model, and just play for story cause as they said foeplay is half the fun of these activity, or in these case a sexy fantasy situation that you would find it to be sexy. if given a choice they probably wouldn't mind those model have face of Tifa or Elena Fisher or Cindy Aurum if given choice.
it just people that write degenerate cater to specific nich probably don't have ability to get 3d model make with a good art designer.

 

[Kamishirov]

I'll agree that the vast majority of 3D games do have realistically ugly women in them. It's like with porn in general, people are less interested in the mass produced and obviously scripted affairs with professionals, people want that real amateur feeling of diving into a girl behind a dumpster!

I can't justify brutalist architecture but it's there, nobody wanted it but everyone paid for it. Just like broken down, tatted up, pierced whores with busted up fish lip beef curtains, (doesn't matter the age) nobody wanted it but everyone's paying for it. It is what it is, some people like it but I'm guessing the vast majority don't, we are in this mode and have probably always been there to a certain degree where we all have to suck it up and live with extreme negatives. Life can be a crying shame and even entertainment won't allow a temporary reprieve let alone an escape.

A lot of "Eastern" games can be way too basic, cartoony and nice. She's taking an absolute monster black cock and she has a smile on her face like she's on a date at an amusement park and is eating some sugary sweet cotton candy.

 

[Slamjax]

No offense and insults, but I'm really, really confused。
I'm an Asian and I can't understand why most of the 3D adult games, come from Europe and America. The female character looks terrible, with a face with a lot of edges and corners, like a hexagon. There is also a huge mouth and protruding lips, and there are a lot of black pieces, white pieces, and red pieces on the face.The skin is also poor, and all in all, most of the female characters look like a woman in her forties and fifties。All in all, the whole person looks weird。It's not even as good as a woman in reality。Why not do it like Final Fantasi and MONSTER HUNTER RISE ？
Or is it that many people really like this style or that the aesthetics are different in different regions?

Could it be that many developers are using the same pool of basic DAZ3D models which have that "square jaw", mixed in with the expectation that female characters should have that common look of a porn actress in the US porn industry (e.g. thick lips, tanned skin, implants).
Asian beauty is a different aesthetic with more gentle, rounded features and pale skin. Asian porn actresses are also more natural.