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Why are H-games so cruel?
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The problem is that most of us will not be satisfied if we can bang only one girl in the game. And it apply even to games with a good story ; I'm sure that everyone expect to bang all the girls in Dating My Daughter by example. So, even if the main mechanism is seduction, it always include a part of corruption, because the girls must agree that they aren't the only one. Plus the fact that we'll not stop to a gentle intercourse, we want to bang them hard.
Even if I agree that it's good to hear them softly ask us to hold them tight, hearing them begging us to go deeper and faster, asking to be spanked, or even more, isn't unpleasant. But seen by the society, it's not how good girls behave, so here again come the touch of corruption added to the seduction.
All this said, I agree with you, too much is too much. I stopped playing Katie's corruption because, for me at least, the game goes too far. It's not anymore corruption of her sexuality, a guiding her to the acceptation of acts that can be seen as depraved. It's now corruption of her mind and forced enslavement of her soul.
As depraved as I can be, as ready to corrupt a family of seven, turning the mother and her six daughters into my personal cumbuckets (in a game of course) as I can be, I still have some limits. Turning her into my personal whore, why not. It's the way she'll behave with me (the player) ; she's a whore, but for to please me and because she discovered that she want it.
But Katie is turned into a real whore/street worker, in the most pejorative way possible. She don't do it for to please me, but because she no longer know how to act in another way with men. Some can like it, I have nothing against that, but not me.
TL;DR: There's a difference between corruption and corruption. Helping someone to discover and accept the kinky part of her personality isn't the same thing that, like you said, breaking her mind.
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This is just an opinion I have developed from some limited info I have gathered from here or there. for many centuries in Japan's history, I believe, due to honor systems and avoidance of embarassment repression especially of sexual proclivities became a serious thing. I mean even today there is heavy censorship on porn in japan. So I would imagine much like pressure building up in a pipe until it bursts, those with the bravery to publish art that had been and still kind of is soo repressed just tend to go a bit of the deep end. Again its just my opinion but the more something is held back the harder the dam breaks I suppose
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@grev.. I think you're on the right track with that thought. The more regimented, strict, homogeneous, and repressed a culture is, the darker are the secrets of its citizens. I know people who are raised in Japan and they've moved to America. What they've told me is that once they get over the discomfort and culture shock, they begin to realize that Western countries like America offer different expectations, values, and even morals. Not one of them has moved back to Japan.
Only 2 have told me of stories back home that horrified me.. and it is the stuff that is accepted but never discussed.
Only 2 have told me of stories back home that horrified me.. and it is the stuff that is accepted but never discussed.
Yes, Japan is not a Western Country. In East Asia, Women missed out on the developments of the 1960's. Seen a piece by the Economist, years back, on how highly skilled Chinese Women are flocking in droves to Western companies, and avoiding Chinese companies. Why is that ? Because Western companies treat them as equals. The Feminazis in Ivy League , if they were for real, would be all over this. And the Middle East. And Africa. That's why i don't like Manga/Anime/Hentai. It feels alien to me. I have no references . Women getting raped by tentacled monsters might make some kind of sense in the local culture, but i look at that and just think "what's up with that " ?
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it just goes to show how much upbringing and culture can affect people so greatly, but its not just limited to asia i mean sure some Asian countries have it really bad but the belittling women is still really bad even in north america i mean look at the polygamist in north western us and that guy that has like 20 some odd "wives" they actually treat real women like shit where as in the case of h games well its depicting miss treatment of women but is a lot of cases its an outlet to prevent the actual mistreatment of women.. i mentioned in another post somewhere that i read a story about Loli manga not being as frowned upon now as it used to be in japan as it is an outlet for men who would otherwise act upon their urges.
@muttdoggy yah i have had a similar experience with some Japanese friends and colleagues here in canada too. anecdotes of some stuff that we would be outraged by ( not my stories to share unfortunately ) but are completely common place and just noticing the way these people completely changed from the fun loving out going people they normally are to almost mannequin-esque people when their parents are around.. though on the flip side i have also had experience with some elderly ( 60s to 70s ) Japanese who were visiting and they were as laid back and fun loving as my friends. I guess there are a lot more circumstances to it than just the overall culture but i believe it to have been a big part
Let me politely disagree. "Anecdote is not Data ". You can find outliers, but that's not the norm. In the West, the norm is Equality. Look at Europe, even more Egalitarian, took in few million folks from another culture, and since then , things like "sexual emergencies" became part of European life. If Women are belittled in the West, which i doubt, they still are the least belittled Women. Why do i doubt that ? Because our Culture is actually belittling Men. Especially if they happen to be White. All the Hollywood movies are the same. As soon as a White guy enters the shot, we already know he's the bad guy, because, duh, he's a White guy. It's Post-Modernism in it's heyday. We don't see this in Asia, Africa, Middle East. Only here.
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i wasnt claiming it was data 1 or 2 is not a sample size
. As for men being be littled, i believe its a state of "Snap - back" if you think of the state of culture like a rubber band with the majority stretching it to one side or the other of a behaviour type. when enough of the majority leaves the position its only natural that the band will bounce to the other side of the extreme before slowly starting to find an equilibrium. It's only been recently ( historically speaking ) that women belittlement has begun to improve so its only natural that in an effort to fix what is considered wrong that actions will go to far the other way, much like racism. Its quite easy to assume that if someone who looks like they are from the majority has a problem with an individual from the minority that they are acting in the way the majority always has rather than it just being a case of having a problem with the specific individual. As for hollywood, i wouldn't use anything they do as an example as most sub par movies will just latch on to "whatever is hot" right now to sell those tickets its easy to forget that movie makers are a business and like all businesses they care about their profits and the most profits come from appealing to the majority, but in this case on the issues of men versus women a man seeing a movie dosent care about the color of the villain where as a woman might so its a win win situation. besides White British Men have always made the best Bad Guys!Societies don't work like rubber bands, they work like plate tectonics. Once you got the Enlightment, there was a reaction, but it didn't went back full Ancien Regime. I used Hollywood as an example, exactly because it's a business. Let's have a crime story, where all the evidence points at the White guy, and in the end, we find out that the perp was actually the disabled black-latina trans lesbian, see how that would sell. Hollywood changes plots all the time to please Chinese censors, there's no "artistic purity " , so they're a good example of the Zeitgeist. I remember rotfl when some professional victims came out criticising "Dunkirk" for not having enough black people in it. Sure thing ! Next time, we'll have Denzel Washington playing Churchill and Morgan Freeman will play Roosevelt. I can see it sweeping the Oscars !
I've really enjoyed playing "Good Girl Gone Bad" or "Katie's Corruption" by trying to keep her safe from the wolves.
The other side of their story are well written too, but in my opinion less attractive.
For "Dating my Daugther", I enjoy playing the daugther route, I don't know why this is called corruption level when you unlock the flower parts. Looks like more of an introduction to adult sex life (especially since the 2-3 last updates). Too bad they meet while knowing they are relatives.
Games like "Elena's Life", "Sarah's life", or "Road Trip" aren't enjoyable for me, like
I think it's not a question or being a pussy or not. It's just natural that you want to protect and be nice with a cute lady.
And it's not incompatible with having few/lots of fetishes.
The other side of their story are well written too, but in my opinion less attractive.
For "Dating my Daugther", I enjoy playing the daugther route, I don't know why this is called corruption level when you unlock the flower parts. Looks like more of an introduction to adult sex life (especially since the 2-3 last updates). Too bad they meet while knowing they are relatives.
Games like "Elena's Life", "Sarah's life", or "Road Trip" aren't enjoyable for me, like
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said, the woman protagonist are just too dumb. Plus it's not really well written, not immersive, they lack of background, sometime the decor is just rough and ready.I think it's not a question or being a pussy or not. It's just natural that you want to protect and be nice with a cute lady.
And it's not incompatible with having few/lots of fetishes.
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Most corruption games are actually pretty tame, compared to what girls do to themselves in real life.
Somewhat unrealistic, I'd say, when they depict the girl... not asking for it. Girls are self-corrupting, they don't need to be mind controlled, and blackmailed. Instinctively, they know they need to prepare themselves for childbirth. If the hole is too small they could die in labor.
Somewhat unrealistic, I'd say, when they depict the girl... not asking for it. Girls are self-corrupting, they don't need to be mind controlled, and blackmailed. Instinctively, they know they need to prepare themselves for childbirth. If the hole is too small they could die in labor.
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I was actually selling my sell short!@Malkav Only human? specieist!!!
Thinking about it, I have actually enjoyed the legend of krystal game. Playshape's art was good enough for me to go furry
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I can definitely see how these games with having terrible things happen to these girls would be upsetting, a turn-off, or anything else related to those kinds of feelings. Personally, I feel kinda indifferent to them unless it's something like the voice acting actively makes me want to stop playing to prevent this terrible thing from happening, but I think that's due in part because not only have I just been going through a bunch of anime, manga, LNs, VNs, doujins and so on, but also since I've just had to completely change my mindset everytime I see something happen in a VN or H-game that would normally be considered cruel. Just as an example, I would have cognitive dissonance in the sense that on one hand, I'd see a girl getting gang-banged with just a crowd of guys and think about how awful that is for the girl, but on the other hand I think that "Well this could be someone else's fetish, so who knows." and I just sorta move on with it.
I don't know if anything I said made sense or not, though, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
I don't know if anything I said made sense or not, though, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
1.because there's a market for it
2. Because the devs are sublimating some of their own feelings in doing so
2. Because the devs are sublimating some of their own feelings in doing so
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I don't mind stuff like rape or abuse in games (within limits...humans or humanoids like orcs etc, ok, but the stuff with centaurs/horses/insects etc nope, not interested, it's just too weird for me....)....
To be fair, though, I don't really see those acts as 'real' rape/abuse etc....more like role-play
What I mean is.... for example in porn some websites do simulated rape etc. (like Kink). Point is: everybody was willing and nobody was forced to do anything. It's all role play. JAV, same thing. I've done some bondage in real life but of course it was with willing partners and role playing; being someone we are not IRL was fun but it was a game for consenting adults.
In a video game, well, art is art, the 3D models don't suffer and were not hurt....they just pretend, like actresses....can't say I find any of those games truly disturbing on an emotional level.
All those examples I mentioned, btw, rape etc are not realistic by any stretch of the imagination..... (they enjoy it after a few seconds, they are obviously not really forced etc)...so that's another reason why I don't think those games are particularly bad; they are jsut fantasies....although, like I said, there are limits (and I wouldn't play any games featuring stuff like torture or snuff added to sex....yuck)
Having said all that..... I still find it bizarre that there is quite a stigma against that kind of fiction but on the other hand we can watch or commit virtual murders on television and in video games almost every day, and often several times a day....
Not to be fussy, but killing somebody would be emotionally devastating for most of us, IRL, but it's constantly glorified in fiction.
I don't think it's a coincidence that more and more disturbed individuals end up acting out mass-murder fantasies in real life.
To be fair, though, I don't really see those acts as 'real' rape/abuse etc....more like role-play
What I mean is.... for example in porn some websites do simulated rape etc. (like Kink). Point is: everybody was willing and nobody was forced to do anything. It's all role play. JAV, same thing. I've done some bondage in real life but of course it was with willing partners and role playing; being someone we are not IRL was fun but it was a game for consenting adults.
In a video game, well, art is art, the 3D models don't suffer and were not hurt....they just pretend, like actresses....can't say I find any of those games truly disturbing on an emotional level.
All those examples I mentioned, btw, rape etc are not realistic by any stretch of the imagination..... (they enjoy it after a few seconds, they are obviously not really forced etc)...so that's another reason why I don't think those games are particularly bad; they are jsut fantasies....although, like I said, there are limits (and I wouldn't play any games featuring stuff like torture or snuff added to sex....yuck)
Having said all that..... I still find it bizarre that there is quite a stigma against that kind of fiction but on the other hand we can watch or commit virtual murders on television and in video games almost every day, and often several times a day....
Not to be fussy, but killing somebody would be emotionally devastating for most of us, IRL, but it's constantly glorified in fiction.
I don't think it's a coincidence that more and more disturbed individuals end up acting out mass-murder fantasies in real life.
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For me there is huge difference between settings and characters when it comes to rape and other forms of cruelty. I don't feel any compassion for pixels but I do have certain expectations when it comes to storytelling. I don't mind the milf next door in a present day setting being abused, as she is not supposed to be a powerful or martially capable character. If she runs into the guy, whom her son defeated using cheats in Call of Duty that's bad luck for her. However if a woman wears armor or wields weapons in most depictions she is supposed to able to defend herself. If she runs into a gang of thugs, her weapon should be the last thing the assaulters see, as a female warrior is supposed to be more powerful than these lower life forms, even if she is surprised in her sleep without her weapons at hand.