Why aren't there more reverse NTR games?

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Sorry about that, but whenever I tell people I am a sadist they tend to believe that I enjoy hurting people or watching them be hurt when that is FAR from the truth. While there are no doubt plenty of people who actually enjoy watching people being hurt, raped, tortured, or otherwise cruelty in general. I personally enjoy the feedback from the M, I'd say the M's reaction is the entire reason I do anything, her having a mix of apprehension and excitement about my next move, that is what I look forward to.
There are plenty of kinds of sadists right? Same as Masochists and Sado-Masochists there is more than one way to do that stuff. Also People can be stupid, some cant differentiate between rumors and fact, and some cant differentiate between reality and fantasy....Frankly in my experience far more are like that even on here than logical reasonable people.
 

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The reason cuckolds are way more popular than cuckqueans is because most creators and consumers of porn are men, and it's a male fantasy. It's just sexualizing fear and inadequacy.

Toss in a little bit of misogyny and racism and you got your standard ntr game.
 
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The reason cuckolds are way more popular than cuckqueans is because most creators and consumers of porn are men, and it's a male fantasy. It's just sexualizing fear and inadequacy.

Toss in a little bit of misogyny and racism and you got your standard ntr game.
Honestly, based on pretty much every anime, one would think a power fantasy would be more popular, since that is what pretty much every anime/manga/light novel is. However, for some reason when it comes to hentai people do a complete 180 and want to be a cuck. The games piss me the hell off, I made the mistake of watching and it still pisses me off. The most annoying part is you can't actually do anything to change the course of events. If I was in that scenario, they'd never find the bodies.
 

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Why aren't there more__________?
Because there aren't. Next question.

I'm honest with women right from the start. I tell them upfront that I'm seeing other women, and that's never gonna change. That's not "reverse NTR" it's just the way it is. Most women accept the terms, and have a good time, but occasionally there is some drama. In the throws of passion, a girl might blurt out "oh god I want to do this 24/7"
but we both know she's not serious. She's gonna need a few days to recover from this trauma, 24/7 is not humanly possible. By all means, try and prove me wrong, but don't say I didn't warn you.

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Why aren't there more__________?
Because there aren't. Next question.

I'm honest with women right from the start. I tell them upfront that I'm seeing other women, and that's never gonna change. That's not "reverse NTR" it's just the way it is. Most women accept the terms, and have a good time, but occasionally there is some drama. In the throws of passion, a girl might blurt out "oh god I want to do this 24/7"
but we both know she's not serious. She's gonna need a few days to recover from this trauma, 24/7 is not humanly possible. By all means, try and prove me wrong, but don't say I didn't warn you.
You sound like a sociopath, as if you are completely unable to empathize with people. I was musing on why you'd agree to a relationship to begin with if that is your mindset, but since sociopaths tend to live a parasitic lifestyle, I suppose you are only staying with her to feed off her generosity until she gets fed up with your "take but don't give" mentality.

As for "proving you wrong" I don't really have time to explain common sense to someone who couldn't possibly understand it due to a malformed brain. A sociopath lacks a fully functioning brain, literally preventing you from being able to understand even the most basic of human emotions. So, you wouldn't understand even if I was to spend time breaking it down for you, so why would I waste my time on some pathetic sub-human with a learning disability?

I know you have an Oedipus complex but I'm not your mother and don't have time for you.
 
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You sound like a sociopath, as if you are completely unable to empathize with people. I was musing on why you'd agree to a relationship to begin with if that is your mindset, but since sociopaths tend to live a parasitic lifestyle, I suppose you are only staying with her to feed off her generosity until she gets fed up with your "take but don't give" mentality.

As for "proving you wrong" I don't really have time to explain common sense to someone who couldn't possibly understand it due to a malformed brain. A sociopath lacks a fully functioning brain, literally preventing you from being able to understand even the most basic of human emotions. So, you wouldn't understand even if I was to spend time breaking it down for you, so why would I waste my time on some pathetic sub-human with a learning disability?

I know you have an Oedipus complex but I'm not your mother and don't have time for you.
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It's really cute how you pretend that my comment didn't bother you. If it truly hadn't, you would have simply pointed out where I was wrong, and camly refuted me. However, that wasn't your response, so evidently not only I am right on the mark but I also managed to greatly upset you.

Man, it's such a nice way to blow off steam, recognizing someone's character flaws then using it to insult them. It really heals the spirit when I see that you're so mad but can't come up with a way to refute it.
 

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It's really cute how you pretend that my comment didn't bother you. If it truly hadn't, you would have simply pointed out where I was wrong, and camly refuted me. However, that wasn't your response, so evidently not only I am right on the mark but I also managed to greatly upset you.

Man, it's such a nice way to blow off steam, recognizing someone's character flaws then using it to insult them. It really heals the spirit when I see that you're so mad but can't come up with a way to refute it.
Why would I point out where you were wrong?

 

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Honestly, based on pretty much every anime, one would think a power fantasy would be more popular, since that is what pretty much every anime/manga/light novel is. However, for some reason when it comes to hentai people do a complete 180 and want to be a cuck. The games piss me the hell off, I made the mistake of watching and it still pisses me off. The most annoying part is you can't actually do anything to change the course of events. If I was in that scenario, they'd never find the bodies.
Ntr IS a power fantasy, it's just not one where the main character is on top of the totem pole. Even in that title of that game you posted (i never played it) the cuckold is asking the bull to "please bang MY wife." The whole fetish is about something being "yours" and it being "taken" away, and he is asking the bull nicely because they both know he is higher up in the hierarchy.

On the outside it could look like an open relationship, but it's usually the emasculating and degrading dialogue that make it NTR.
 
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Ntr IS a power fantasy, it's just not one where the main character is on top of the totem pole. Even in that title of that game you posted (i never played it) the cuckold is asking the bull to "please bang MY wife." The whole fetish is about something being "yours" and it being "taken" away, and he is asking the bull nicely because they both know he is higher up in the hierarchy.

On the outside it could look like an open relationship, but it's usually the emasculating and degrading dialogue that make it NTR.
Oh it had plenty of degrading dialogue, but it was also the way it played out, it was clear that the wife had zero love for the MC, the wife stayed with him to supposedly "play" into his NTR fetish to make him happy but it is clear that she is humoring him for her own benefit. I've seen NTR where the wife has sex with other men but cares little about those men and would leave them in a heartbeat if the MC asked her to, often having follow-up sex with the MC after getting the NTR footage which both consider foreplay for their own benefit.

I figured it would be similar to that and I originally posted due to the name, where she had that sort of mindset about NTR. In the reverse NTR, after several sex sessions, tensions get high with the MC wanting to stop before their relationship suffers permanent damage and the girlfriend(cuck) unsure whether this is really worth it. They eventually come to the conclusion that NTR play is beginning to become more trouble than it is worth so they close that chapter on their life vowing to never return, living happily ever after.

However, I suppose you can call this true NTR, the MC is pretending he has some role in the relationship but it's a delusion. In reality the wife doesn't just not love with her husband, but she actually hates him and enjoys tormenting him. Ironically, it is the bull who is gives the one and only good advice, it is clear that the bull does not enjoy what the husband is doing to himself. He tells him to abandon this fetish and cut his losses. To finally divorce his wife and move on to live a happier life(the MC never responds).

When the story starts, before she even met the bull, she isn't willing to have sex with him but once a month if he was lucky. Then when she met the bull she realized that she never actually loved her husband, so originally she wanted to divorce her husband and leave with the new man, but when the MC claims he has an NTR fetish, they decide to tolerate him and live in his house(kicking him out of the master bedroom) and use his money for their own fun. The wife doesn't even cook dinner for him anymore, she is careful to only make two servings of food and forcing him to eat microwave food. I'd say the final straw was the "birthday video" the MC is expecting the wife to celebrate his birthday, but she arrives late and hands him a DVD. When it plays she is holding a birthday cake and says "happy birthday" then drops the cake on the floor, stepping on it saying "just kidding," then proceeds to have sex with the bull.
 
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Reverse NTR would be more like where your wife brings home the bull, and you seduce him away from her. Cucking her, before she can cuck you. Denying her the satisfaction, taking it all for yourself. Looking her in the eyes while you're letting him do whatever he wants to you. Soaking up the whole range of her emotions... her jealousy, horror, fascination, disbelief. Seeing the concern in her eyes as you're about to pass out while his cock is blocking your windpipe, and he's not letting up...

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Reverse NTR would be more like where your wife brings home the bull, and you seduce him away from her. Cucking her, before she can cuck you. Denying her the satisfaction, taking it all for yourself. Looking her in the eyes while you're letting him do whatever he wants to you. Soaking up the whole range of her emotions... her jealousy, horror, fascination, disbelief. Seeing the concern in her eyes as you're about to pass out while his cock is blocking your windpipe, and he's not letting up...
That's a rather disturbing mental image... But there is already a name for that: yaoi netori.

Reverse NTR is named on the same logic as reverse rape, the traditional or most common roles are reversed. Technically both are just rape, but the gender swap is distinguished to make finding what you want easier. Since netorare of female cucking male is the norm, reverse NTR is used to distinguished.
 

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That's a rather disturbing mental image... But there is already a name for that: yaoi netori.

Reverse NTR is named on the same logic as reverse rape, the traditional or most common roles are reversed. Technically both are just rape, but the gender swap is distinguished to make finding what you want easier. Since netorare of female cucking male is the norm, reverse NTR is used to distinguished.
You're obviously a little confused.
There are multiple threads on here that spell out again and again the differences.
Rape has nothing to do with NTR. nor does cucholding.

If your girlfriend gets raped, it's just rape. If you blame her for being raped, it just means you're an asshole, it's not NTR.
To be cuckolded, requires your consent. Wife brings home the bull, you say "I'm out" and magically you're not a cuck.
If you watch her degrade herself, and get some sadistic pleasure out of it, boom welcome to cucksville, population you.
(basically what you were asking for in the OP)

NTR is completely different. It's not a consensual thing. NTR happens without your approval.
So the reverse of NTR would be to TAKE FROM rather than being Taken from.
She wants that bull bad, but you get it first.
 

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That wasn't what I was getting at, I was pointing out why they make a distinction by calling it "reverse" rather than some other name. It does not mean that the opposite of NTR is happening, it means that the genders are swapped. The precedent was set by "reverse rape." So, when coming up for a term to distinguish stories about female cucks from male cucks, "reverse NTR" was the most logical term to use.

That aside, I fail to see how having sex with a woman makes you a cuck.
 
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That wasn't what I was getting at, I was pointing out why they make a distinction by calling it "reverse" rather than some other name. It does not mean that the opposite of NTR is happening, it means that the genders are swapped. The precedent was set by "reverse rape." So, when coming up for a term to distinguish stories about female cucks from male cucks, "reverse NTR" was the most logical term to use.

That aside, I fail to see how having sex with a woman makes you a cuck.
I shouldn't have assumed you were male, my bad. If the male takes the bull instead of the female, how is that not swapping the genders?
 

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I shouldn't have assumed you were male, my bad. If the male takes the bull instead of the female, how is that not swapping the genders?
Two reasons:

That's more along the lines of netori, no matter how it happens, when the story is focused on the person stealing that is netori. Secondly, that isn't really swapping genders, it's more of a plot twist. Also, since it's a male homosexual relationship, that would be further broken down into yaoi.

Reverse NTR is a female bull and a female cuck, pretty simple, as long as those two conditions are met then it's reverse NTR.
 

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Two reasons:

That's more along the lines of netori, no matter how it happens, when the story is focused on the person stealing that is netori. Secondly, that isn't really swapping genders, it's more of a plot twist. Also, since it's a male homosexual relationship, that would be further broken down into yaoi.

Reverse NTR is a female bull and a female cuck, pretty simple, as long as those two conditions are met then it's reverse NTR.
No. Netori and stealing are premeditated. NRT (and reverse NTR) is a crime of passion.
She's about to mount the bull, and you can't bear to see her deflowered in that manner, so you throw yourself on the sword. Not because you wanted it, but because you had to.
You intentionally cheating on your girlfriend isn't remotely NTR.
 

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No. Netori and stealing are premeditated. NRT (and reverse NTR) is a crime of passion.
She's about to mount the bull, and you can't bear to see her deflowered in that manner, so you throw yourself on the sword. Not because you wanted it, but because you had to.
You intentionally cheating on your girlfriend isn't remotely NTR.
Netorare is divided into 7 major types

Type A: The spouse is willingly cheating on the cuck without a shred of remorse
Type B: The cuck's spouse was raped/blackmailed but the spouse began to enjoy it and started to prefer the rapist over the cuck
Type C: The cuck's spouse is raped in front of them, it is nonconsensual from start to finish for both the cuck and their spouse
Netorase: The cuck is orchestrating the whole thing, setting up their spouse to cheat on them so that they can be cuckolded
Reverse NTR: the cuck and the bull are female and the spouse is a male
Lesbian NTR: The cuck can be male or female, their female spouse leaves the cuck for another woman
Yaoi NTR: The cuck can be male or female, their male spouse leaves the cuck for another man

The difference between netori and netorare is essentially the point of view. If it takes place from the POV of the cuck or their spouse, then it is netorare. If it takes place from the POV of the bull, it is netori.
 
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It's not NTR if you want it. NTR is not something you can do, it's something that is done to you.

If you were mean to a cat when you were a boy, and you never made amends with the cat God, you will be visited by the Nekorare. An evil cat spirit that takes the ones you love.
 
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It's not NTR if you want it. NTR is not something you can do, it's something that is done to you.
Netorare translates to "taken away by sleeping with."

Type A, B, C, and netorase are simply how the NTR begins. Obviously A, B, and C aren't voluntary on the cuck's side. But netorase is something that doesn't fit the true definition but the way things play out tends to end up as true NTR, so people just group it as a sub-category of netorare.

In netorase, it doesn't start as "true NTR" as it generally is someone with an NTR fetish being voluntarily cucked. However, 99.9% of them end with the wife no longer pretending and it being far too late by the time the cuck realizes it.