Why does it seem like so many devs are averse to impregnation? (Thread is NOT about implementing pregnancy in games)

[harem.king]

Most western developers aim for a never-ending game (yes, it's to make more money or a lack of vision for their game), so they can't have pregnancies without having to worry about what comes after, namely babies and childcare.

sure they can. they just need to put TODO on the baby and childcare thing and say it will come sometime in the future. and then never do it.
they put TODO notes for 90% of the potential waifus anyways. so why not babies?

 

[Hagatagar]

sure they can. they just need to put TODO on the baby and childcare thing and say it will come sometime in the future. and then never do it.
they put TODO notes for 90% of the potential waifus anyways. so why not babies?

Well if the story progesses, and let's say there are sesonal changes...
MC: "How long has you been pregnant?"
LI: "I don't know... two or three years?"

 

[tanstaafl]

Well if the story progesses, and let's say there are sesonal changes...
MC: "How long has you been pregnant?"
LI: "I don't know... two or three years?"

Gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers.
Bonnie Swanson was pregnant for a decade.

 

[Hagatagar]

Gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers.
Bonnie Swanson was pregnant for a decade.
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How many VN LI are actually smart enough to count?

 

[Dryme]

How many VN LI are actually smart enough to count?

The world would be different if women were loved for their intelligence

 

[harem.king]

Well if the story progesses, and let's say there are sesonal changes...
MC: "How long has you been pregnant?"
LI: "I don't know... two or three years?"

1. not nearly as egregious as all the other TODOs I have seen. Lots of games have cliffhangers todo.

2. I actually find this to be an improvement. just show her as perma preg.

3. easily solved if you really must. lots of ways to do it that are lazy.
option 1:
> sarah gave birth
> sarah baby count += 1
> [Dev Note: this is a placeholder. a full scene, naming the child, and so on will be done later]

option 2:
once her pregnancy reaches its end, show this message
> dev note: birth is still TODO for this character. for now pregnancy progress has been frozen for her, and you can manually switch which pregnancy stage she is in using her char sheet.

super easy to implement.

 

[tanstaafl]

2. I actually find this to be an improvement. just show her as perma preg.

I'm going to ignore the rest of the post because I've said my bit in this thread, but this line is spoken like a person who either:

1. Has never actually been around a pregnant person.
2. Has no empathy at all.

Do you have any idea how uncomfortable and tired late term pregnant women are? "But their hormones!?!?" Yeah, that's a thing, but it's like 0.5% of the time, the rest of the time is fucked up cravings, being uncomfortable, back pain, being tired, etc.

"Don't be putting reality in my porn game!"
heh

 

[Dryme]

any idea how uncomfortable and tired late term pregnant women are? "But their hormones!?!?" Yeah, that's a thing, but it's like 0.5% of the time, the rest of the time is fucked up cravings, being uncomfortable, back pain, being tired,

I want to believe that all this is greatly exaggerated and in fact every woman experiences it in her own way, someone does not even notice Her pregnancy and accidentally gives birth. However, now I understand why the consent period in some countries is 14-16 years.

 

[tanstaafl]

I want to believe that all this is greatly exaggerated and in fact every woman experiences it in her own way, someone does not even notice Her pregnancy and accidentally gives birth. However, now I understand why the consent period in some countries is 14-16 years.

I've seen stories like that, but they are universally 1. very obese and already incredibly uncomfortable (or would be if they hadn't adapted after years of being incredibly obese). 2. Were lying to their mothers/parents/news/authorities because "omg I had sex?"

I've been around a -lot- of pregnant women. Normal, healthy women are nearly universal in their discomfort...my son's wife was better than my daughter about it though, so yeah, some people handle it better than others.

Edit: To clarify, I almost never believe the "didn't know she was pregnant" stories. Why? Set a 6 to 8 lb bowling ball directly on your bladder and tell me if you notice.

 

[Geigi]

Cringe. This discussion started about impregnation/pregnancy in games to men talking like doctors about period, ovulation, contraception and real life pregnancies when in fact the majority of men either impregnate their girlfriends and run away from responsibility or start cheating on their pregnant wives.

 

[harem.king]

I'm going to ignore the rest of the post because I've said my bit in this thread, but this line is spoken like a person who either:

1. Has never actually been around a pregnant person.
2. Has no empathy at all.

Do you have any idea how uncomfortable and tired late term pregnant women are? "But their hormones!?!?" Yeah, that's a thing, but it's like 0.5% of the time, the rest of the time is fucked up cravings, being uncomfortable, back pain, being tired, etc.

"Don't be putting reality in my porn game!"
heh

> You are a bad person because you don't consider the discomfort of this fictional character.

Oh boy that one is a doozie.
How about you apply this same argument to anyone who fetishizes big boobs, big butts, fat people, giant foot long dicks, anal sex, face fucking, rough sex, and so many other fetishes.

 

[harem.king]

when in fact the majority of men either impregnate their girlfriends and run away from responsibility or start cheating on their pregnant wives because "they are different women".

[citation needed]

 

[tanstaafl]

> You are a bad person because you don't consider the discomfort of this fictional character.

Oh boy that one is a doozie.
How about you apply this same argument to anyone who fetishizes big boobs, big butts, fat people, giant foot long dicks, anal sex, face fucking, rough sex, and so many other fetishes.

No? I've dated girls that liked all of those, even fat people, (I was a fat person in my 30s, not my wife. I got better)...married one actually , though that kind of thing faded after a few decades, lol.

 

[harem.king]

No? I've dated girls that liked all of those, even fat people, (I was a fat person in my 30s I got better)...married one actually, though that kind of thing faded after a few decades, lol.

> Pregnancy is extremely harmful and unpleasant. You are bad person for fetishisizing it.
> Being obese is perfectly harmless condition that has no negative side effects whatsoever.

face meet palm.
this hits particularly close to home because I myself am suffering from serious health problems due to obesity which I am working hard to control right now.

Yea, this is starting to move towards a derail so I am just going to drop this line of convo here.
Enjoy your delusions.

 

[tanstaafl]

harmless condition that has no negative side effects whatsoever.

Who said that? The only way I mentioned them, other than to say I was heavy 25 years ago, is as the only people unhealthy enough to realistically not realize they're pregnant...and even then I don't believe it.

Is this a thing where you set up an argument and then argue against that as if I said it? That seems familiar.

 

[Dryme]

Cringe. This discussion started about impregnation/pregnancy in games to men talking like doctors about period, ovulation, contraception and real life pregnancies when in fact the majority of men either impregnate their girlfriends and run away from responsibility or start cheating on their pregnant wives.

I've been doing this all my life with women

 

[Leo D. Marstone]

With that being said, why is there seemingly such an aversion to impregnation in general or even letting players keep the illusion of it for even just the sex scene? Even in games with pregnancy for some girls, there seems to be a need from devs to uncut the possibility of impregnation with girls all the time.

I don't have to discuss or talk about all the biological factors of pregnancy but I just like seeing pregnant woman and have pregnant sex. Thats all to it.
Why do people love armpit licking, futa or massive bushes on man/woman? Some would cringe and some like it. It's all preferences of liking something in an unrealistic bubble. Living out fantasys and so on.

However devs are not averse of impreg only content. I see it quite often actually. The stuff that happens afterwards seems to be more avoided because of reasons stated enough times already in this thread. There are only two reasons really.
Either they don't want to double their workload because of rendering/drawing variations or devs simply dislike the fetish. Thats fine.

I played a lot of japanese NTR/corruption games and pregnancy is more often than not a present factor. Maybe thats why I started to like it.

With this in mind however I started to dislike the impreg only content. Characters in games start talking about the prospect of getting pregnant in sex scenes but don't follow through. It's just flavour text. It's like dangling a stick with a treat in front of me that I will never reach
I don't mind epilogue pregnancy stuff only. Because it is easy to do and you are free to say how much time has passed as a dev.

So yeah ultimately...I don't mind "undermining" the illusion of getting pregnant. Better not include it at all imo. I don't say dev's shouldn't put it in their games but then again I would love to have a disclaimer in OPs.

"Yes the pregnancy tag is there but this game is about impregnation only". Would alleviate 90% of dissapointed people who are into pregnancy stuff.....at least until we get the new tag system. The seperation of pregnancy and impregnation is on paper only for a few years.

 

[Death Panda]

I suspect many people who make porn are antinatalists. Antinatalism is objectively evil and the people who believe in it are not worth engaging with.

 

[Leo D. Marstone]

I suspect many people who make porn are antinatalists. Antinatalism is objectively evil and the people who believe in it are not worth engaging with.

Wtf dude.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

It's always good to have a choice. And yeah, technically speaking it's no harder to implement than pregancies, about the absense of which people whine here, just a little positional tweaking or even a simple switch... Yet some devs refuse to release any anal sex content whatsoever for some sort of reason, I could've created a thread about it too, lol.

Just for the record, this thread isn’t actually about pregnancy in general and if ought to be included or not (let alone whining about it), it just became what people started talking about that topic. And, you should make that thread with a survey about anal, who knows it might be fun and informative.

A biological imperative to have kids is not a kink. It doesn't translate over to porn for most normal people. It's more of a "I want kids soon" thing, not a "I really want to watch that skank in the NTR game grow a big ol' belly after a creampie"

Not seeing it as a kink...Don't be misrepresenting me. I don't want any kind of pregnancy in games.

Edit: To be clear, I don't mind if it happens in a game though I would prefer that it didn't, I just don't have a pregnancy kink and I don't play the pregnancy, knock 'em up focused games. They are annoying.

The biological imperative can be easily carried over to the main character in a game whom is the player's avatar. This is why we engage in kinks in fiction at all. We are projecting our wants and desires onto the main character to fulfill them. Your example of NTR wouldn’t work because that actually undercuts the biological imperative for men to breed themselves, while a MC breeding reinforces it without fulfilling it. Which can in turn create a fetish out of an imperative.

Which does lead to why you might personally be more averse to pregnancy and impregnation. You have already fulfilled this imperative, so you don’t feel it as a drive anymore, let alone to the extent of fetishizing it, and since you have fulfilled it the act even turns you off. Like after eating a big meal (fulfilling the biological imperative to eat) most people are actually turned off from eating more food while still full. That’s why it is best to go grocery shopping on a full stomach as it helps curb impulse buying of food and snacks you don’t need.

But... how does it translate to what you can see and what you can read during a sexual scene that differs from a default (male-female vaginal sex namely) ? The definition of a "fetish" - it is something that you can't be hard without or something without which you can't achieve orgasm effectively, something that is not inherent and not usual for a normal male-female sex. Is this some sort of a weird x-ray-like view of an uterus and egg and a spermatozoons around it during a climax, is that what people mean by it? Is that when a female yells something like "BREED ME HARDER!!!" during a scene, or what? Anyway, people mentioning "impregnation" as a fetish are retarded monkeys imo.

There are games with internal views of egg fertilization (and this is very common in some hentai), and likewise the statement you said, “Breed me harder,” are examples of the ways that breeding (and to a lesser degree impregnation) are fetishized. I would disagree with you definition of fetish. A fetish adds to sexual excitement, it isn’t necessarily the exclusive means by with a person gets sexual enjoyment. I get sexual enjoyment from being with a woman, that enjoyment is enhanced by nutting inside her, but it isn’t depleted entirely if she requires me to wear a rubber. Most fetishes are exaggerations of normal behavior, either an extreme version of it (like with the breeding fetish) or a sexualized desire of a taboo (like scat, normally repulsive but becomes sexualized with the taboo for some). People taking the natural desire to breed and over exaggerating it in the fetish isn’t stupid, this is how all fetishes work, exaggeration of something otherwise mundane or commonly seen as deviant.

All that being said. Can we please try not to derail the topic with personal attacks and spats? Talking about other fetishes and things similar or adjacent is fine, but let’s avoid personal arguments or insults. Thanks guys,