Why does it seem like so many devs are averse to impregnation? (Thread is NOT about implementing pregnancy in games)

[AshenLohigan]

You don't need to remove the harem to accommodate the pregnancy. This is stupid.
None of the games featuring pregnancy do that.

Remember in summertime saga where the harem is removed when you impregnate one girl?
No, because it never happened

To better respond to what I wrote, you should have said: "Of course, you don’t have to remove the harem after choosing the path of starting a family if that would morally violate your principles as a person and go against your religion."
And I would still reply: "Yeah, you don’t have to—we’re talking about people who feel that they must do it, and they actually do." I'm only talking about what I've read from creators over the years.

You're responding as if you only read half of my argument, but it's actually one cohesive point. It’s not that difficult to understand—if a creator, due to religious or moral beliefs, cannot imagine promoting such relationships where you have a harem while also having a child, then if they wanted to add an option to leave the harem and start a family, it would be difficult to still be in a harem after removing it.
We’re not talking about games or universes where creators don’t have an issue with this. We’re talking about those who specifically avoid including it for the reasons I mentioned. The same applies to NTR—if someone finds it disgusting even as a fantasy, they’re unlikely to include it in their game.

But you're responding as if I said it's physically impossible to make a game where you have a child and maintain a harem—bcs such games exist. That’s completely off-topic.
Your response makes no sense because if the creator of Summertime Saga had the moral or religious issues I described, they simply wouldn’t have implemented that kind of content. Though, of course, I understand that there are people who create things without regard for their personal beliefs.

It’s the same as saying, “Not everyone is capable of killing another person because they fear they won’t go to heaven,” and you responding with, “That’s nonsense; people have killed others before.”
The creator asked a simple question: why is the topic of pregnancy often avoided in games, even as a fantasy? I gave one possible reason out of probably 50, and you’re saying that this reason can't exist just because pregnancy appears in other games, and you're still in the harem these are obvious things, that's not what I was talking about brother

 

[DoodlesTheBob]

Its also what I would call a 'hard' kink (kinda like feet), many people are not interested and those that are go all in. So either its a game where pregnancy is front an centre or its just not really there. And those few games that do put it in the game but not as the focus is usually an avoidable mechanic.

I think it is the most universal kink because the biological purpose of sex is babies. Creampie is the most common fetish irrespective of culture since it is almost always in the top 5. So much so that pulling out and condoms are pretty much hated now in terms of porn popularity.

I get what you're saying though, any size of tits over an A cup wont cost you some audience. Pregnancy as a mandatory aspect of your game is likely to make some people nope out. That's why I think if it is implemented, it shouldn't be something that everyone has to play through. Sort of like those games that have NTR, but it's avoidable.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

Pregnancy as a mandatory aspect of your game is likely to make some people nope out. That's why I think if it is implemented, it shouldn't be something that everyone has to play through.

People didn't seem to mind that I didn't make pregnancy itself optional, but made sure sex while the LI was pregnant optional. So there's that way of doing things.

 

[harem.king]

To better respond to what I wrote, you should have said: "Of course, you don’t have to remove the harem after choosing the path of starting a family if that would morally violate your principles as a person and go against your religion."
And I would still reply: "Yeah, you don’t have to—we’re talking about people who feel that they must do it, and they actually do." I'm only talking about what I've read from creators over the years.

1. where did you even get the idea that most devs and coomers on a porn site are deeply religious people?

2. which religion is it that allows free unlimited casual sex and contraceptives. But once a baby is produced requires strict absolute monogamy and absolutely bans marrying multiple spouses?

3. what makes you think this fantasy nonexistent religion is the one all the devs and players follow?

 

[Arabi1]

Avoiding pregnancy should be a crime, some of you are arguing on the point that the paths of the story will be broad and involve a lot of work. Not necessarily. If you are not willing to practice sex with the intention of impregnantion, then end that love interest's story there and free your time for the others. A scenario where there is no pregnancy is a bad ending anyway.

 

[suprisedcrankyface]

I think it is the most universal kink because the biological purpose of sex is babies. Creampie is the most common fetish irrespective of culture since it is almost always in the top 5. So much so that pulling out and condoms are pretty much hated now in terms of porn popularity.

Pregnancy is different, its actually pretty funny but if you go back far enough (has to be VERY ancient sources) but sex = babies wasn't known (for example in tribal pre ancient Greece they believed women got pregnant from the wind).

Creampie isnt really a kink, more the patient 0 of banging (I mean if thats a kink then every species on earth has it). Dks are muchroom shaped they believe because it helps vacuum out any existing creampie to maxamise your owns chance of passing on your genes... but pregnancy as a kink is something different, from a biological perspective you cant make somone 'more' pregnant so getting into that is kinda self defeating.

Maybe its something to do with showing fertility, but I havent read anything on the subject.

 

[user115637]

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[DuniX]

I think most games follow Porn Logic where fucking and creampies have no consequences.

They just don't want to think about condoms, and pills and other bullshit.
They treat it the same as casual sex that shouldn't* have any consequences.
Ultimately it is Fiction, what happens is whatever the author wants the same as a Porn video with it's Porn Logic.

As for impregnation and pregnant sex that is an Explicit fetish for the players that want that fetish.
It comes in two flavors, the Ending Scene that is easy since you don't have to worry about anything to add it.
Then there is the Pregnancy System that is a logistical nightmare in terms of time management and what happens after.
Even then there is not much point to the system as you don't get much out of it other then the fantasy and making a breeding machine.
Breeding is another fetish entierly, it's only here you can finally can create the perfect Ubermensch children and finally Take Control over the World with your Killing Machines that you have spawned. Usually you see that in combination with furries, monster girls or goblins as actual human children are harder to explain.


*until they do, surprise!

 

[suprisedcrankyface]

I think most games follow Porn Logic where fucking and creampies have no consequences.

They just don't want to think about condoms, and pills and other bullshit.

Its this, and the crude analogy is show me a non scat game where anal gets shit on your dk.

Flying is fun in games because its free from the consequences of falling.

 

[harem.king]

I think most games follow Porn Logic where fucking and creampies have no consequences.

They just don't want to think about condoms, and pills and other bullshit.
They treat it the same as casual sex that shouldn't* have any consequences.
Ultimately it is Fiction, what happens is whatever the author wants the same as a Porn video with it's Porn Logic.

Most games actually explicitly go "don't worry I am on the pill"
If they just did not say anything and left it up to the viewer's imagination as to why no pregnancy happens it would be an improvement.

 

[Magic Harem]

Most games actually explicitly go "don't worry I am on the pill"
If they just did not say anything and left it up to the viewer's imagination as to why no pregnancy happens it would be an improvement.

Anything at all?

 

[harem.king]

Anything at all?

A game not saying anything at all to explain why there is no pregnancy (or STD) is in my opinion an improvement, yes. Compared to explicitly giving you in universe explanation.

This is like how authors sometimes fall into the trap of thinking they MUST provide some pseudo scientific explanation for their magic. like
> Xeno AI using science to fake it out.

You don't have to explain it, and the story suffers if you try to.

 

[suprisedcrankyface]

A game not saying anything at all to explain why there is no pregnancy (or STD) is in my opinion an improvement, yes. Compared to explicitly giving you in universe explanation.

This is like how authors sometimes fall into the trap of thinking they MUST provide some pseudo scientific explanation for their magic. like
> Xeno AI using science to fake it out.

You don't have to explain it, and the story suffers if you try to.

You mean YOU dont like the story as much. Most people dont care, and its up to the dev how they feel on creating their game.

And to be honest, 90% of games with cream-pie DON'T have anything ever said about it, you are just laser focused on those that do because you dont like it.

 

[harem.king]

in my opinion

You mean YOU dont like the story as much.

that is what "in my opinion" means.

 

[suprisedcrankyface]

that is what "in my opinion" means.

You don't have to explain it, and the story suffers if you try to.

First part is an opinion, the second is a statement.. so devs dont put pregnency in games because around 10% of games explicitly state there's some form of contraception or mad science preventing it?

 

[harem.king]

First part is an opinion, the second is a statement..

They are both opinions. They are also literally a single sentence.

so devs dont put pregnency in games because around 10% of games explicitly state there's some form of contraception or mad science preventing it?

facepalm.
No, devs put contraceptives in the games BECAUSE they don't want to put pregnancy in it.
Not vice versa.

 

[SisconM]

A game not saying anything at all to explain why there is no pregnancy (or STD) is in my opinion an improvement, yes. Compared to explicitly giving you in universe explanation.

This is like how authors sometimes fall into the trap of thinking they MUST provide some pseudo scientific explanation for their magic. like
> Xeno AI using science to fake it out.

You don't have to explain it, and the story suffers if you try to.

I'm split 50/50 on the improvement part, if it's a soft quick mention of using whatever form of contraceptive(Eg. "we have a spell for that"), that can provide an extra milestone for the character/story when they decide to push into pregnancy instead of creampie no.269 doing it's job cause why not.

but I do get you, the main trap is some authors fall into is thinking they need to somehow make it "believable" with lore and it's just a random pointless loredump fake-word soup that changes nothing.

pointless explanations like a whole convo that leads to "Bloom of Barren Fields, The spell operates on the principle that living organisms possess a subtle bio-energetic field, a complex interplay of aetheric resonances. Conception, from this perspective, is not merely a physical process but also a synchronization of these resonant frequencies between two individuals." (ai generated btw I ain't got time to waste on a bad example) just adds some nonsense names to remember, provides nothing to the story, wastes player time, and adds a distraction for the author. It's being different for the sake for being different for no gains.

It's much better if its one simple sentence like "I have a contraception spell lmao xd" that allow to set up for a future scene where she turns it off for pregnancy or the scumbag character bypasses it(without a painful loredump).

but yeah, not mentioning it is a valid option if the author doesn't plan on utilizing the fact to enhance/pace the story or something.

 

[Ponyob4]

Most games actually explicitly go "don't worry I am on the pill"
If they just did not say anything and left it up to the viewer's imagination as to why no pregnancy happens it would be an improvement.

because like any modern slut, I've been giving without gum since I was 13, I've had 3 abortions and now I'm infertile?

 

[suprisedcrankyface]

A game not saying anything at all to explain why there is no pregnancy (or STD) is in my opinion an improvement, yes. Compared to explicitly giving you in universe explanation.

This is like how authors sometimes fall into the trap of thinking they MUST provide some pseudo scientific explanation for their magic. like
> Xeno AI using science to fake it out.

You don't have to explain it, and the story suffers if you try to.

They are both opinions. They are also literally a single sentence.

What does being a sentence have to do with anything other than yes, you connected words together in a legible format.

If its an opinion don't put it forwards as fact? You cant say 'in my opinion' traffic lights change color, that's a statement you believe in, not an opinion. You are just masking what you are trying to put forwards as an argument with a built in equivalent of 'it was just a joke man' to backpeddle if needed.

You are arguing games state that pregnancy is explicitly not in it rather than just ignored out of hand, which is such a minority of games? I mean its not hard, if we listed those who exclude vs those who include or dont mention, then the vast majority would be in the second category.

You are annoyed that your hard kink is written out of some games, which is fine, but the overall games don't suffer for it, just you suffer from not enjoying the game as much.

 

[harem.king]

What does being a sentence have to do with anything other than yes, you connected words together in a legible format.

It has to do with your bad faith arguments.
You literally took a sentence saying "In my opinion A and B"
And tried to pretend the words "in my opinion" only applied to A, and that I was claiming B is some objective truth.
Being a singular sentence just makes it absolutely clear you are arguing in bad faith and not making honest mistakes.