Why does Patreon keep banning creators?

morphnet

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Here are the top 10 games by replies with an incest tag at least 2 years old from F95. All contain incest of some sort, some multiple offending content.
It is really looking like you are intentionally refusing to understand even the simplest of things now.

Game made by dev
Mod made by modders

Not same thing...

9 out of 10 have Patreon accounts up and running. They are most serious about fulfilling their contractual obligations fair and even.
Ok let's fact check you.

A Wife and Mother
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-215f-lust-passion.5944/
Patreon prohibited content (by tags): incest
Patreon active account: No
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-215f-lust-passion.5944/post-14265205

Milfy City
https://f95zone.to/threads/milfy-city-v1-0e-icstor.8012/
Patreon prohibited content (by tags): incest, rape
Patreon active account: Yes 3,084 paid members
Banned content is patched in by 3rd party NOT part of base game!

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Summertime Saga
https://f95zone.to/threads/summertime-saga-v21-0-0-wip-5258-kompas-productions.276/
Patreon prohibited content (by tags): incest
Patreon active account: Yes 34,247 paid members
Banned content is patched in by 3rd party NOT part of base game

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Dating My Daughter
https://f95zone.to/threads/dating-my-daughter-ch-1-4-v1-01-mrdots-games.597/
Patreon prohibited content (by tags): incest
Patreon active account: Yes 2,049 paid members
The dev removed DMD and is only using patreon to support melody etc.

Harem Hotel
https://f95zone.to/threads/harem-hotel-v0-18-1-runey.12760/
Patreon prohibited content (by tags): incest
Patreon active account: Yes 4,662 paid members
Incest is NOT part of the base game and has to be activated by code. This may have been over looked by patreon or not reported.
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Treasures of Nadia
https://f95zone.to/threads/treasure-of-nadia-v1-0117-nlt-media.38582/
Patreon prohibited content (by tags): incest
Patreon active account: Yes 11,752 paid members
Banned content is patched in by 3rd party NOT part of base game

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Man of the House
https://f95zone.to/threads/man-of-the-house-v1-0-2c-extra-faerin.3691/
Patreon prohibited content (by tags): incest
Patreon active account: Yes 1,187 paid members
Banned content is patched in by 3rd party NOT part of base game

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Peasant's Quest
https://f95zone.to/threads/peasants-quest-v3-55-tinkerer.1717/
Patreon prohibited content (by tags): incest, rape, bestiality
Patreon active account: Yes 3,054 paid members
Banned content is patched in by 3rd party NOT part of base game

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My New Life
https://f95zone.to/threads/my-new-life-revamp-v0-97-beggar-of-net.30576/
Patreon prohibited content (by tags): incest, rape
Patreon active account: Yes 781 paid members
Banned content is patched in by 3rd party NOT part of base game

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Love and Sex: Second Base
https://f95zone.to/threads/love-sex-second-base-v24-11-0b-andrealphus.13488/
Patreon prohibited content (by tags): incest, rape
Patreon active account: Yes 3,624 paid members
The only one that comes close with some sort of "stepsister", haven't played the game so don't know what that means.

So to recap your, once again, complete failure to make a point, 1 Dev does NOT have a patreon account, 1 game is not on patreon and was removed because patreon did it's job, 7 dev's reworked and / or removed content because of patreon rules and / or warnings from patreon and the last is a BIG "IF".

All you've done with your post is prove yourself wrong and prove patreon is " fulfilling their contractual obligations fair and even. " which is what we all have been saying it is doing.
 

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Seriously, you should have done some proper research before posting games like Summertime Saga, Milfy City or Dating my Daughter as examples of Patreon not doing anything against creators who break their rules. All of them (and probably some more in your list, as I'm only talking from what I remember) had to make important changes to their 'base game' to stay on Patreon after the platform gave them a first warning, and all the forbidden content you may find now is published by some other 'independent' part. So things work exactly as other people have already told you in this thread.
I did fail to see the patch link. Honest question here because I do not follow most these games: Is the original dev the "independent party" adding their old content back in under a different name on lewdpatcher.com?
 

asen-de

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I wonder if Patreon gets hit by Trumps Free Speech laws like other social media sites soon. Basically removing the Copyright infringement privilege of section 2-30 telling that those sites are a platform and not a publisher. Probably Patreon claims the same privilege which soon will get changed drastically (If Trump holds his promise)

Edit: I mean Trump does not want to remove this law but make the companies who claim the section 2-30 privilege actually accountable to Americas first amendment and not their own TOS.
 
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KiraJames

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I wonder if Patreon gets hit by Trumps Free Speech laws like other social media sites soon. Basically removing the Copyright infringement privilege of section 2-30 telling that those sites are a platform and not a publisher. Probably Patreon claims the same privilege which soon will get changed drastically (If Trump holds his promise)

Edit: I mean Trump does not want to remove this law but make the companies who claim the section 2-30 privilege actually accountable to Americas first amendment and not their own TOS.
No they won't lol.
 
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I think that something's missing... huge-pop-corn.gif
The only one that comes close with some sort of "stepsister", haven't played the game so don't know what that means.
GGGB from Eva Kiss is still on Patreon but the users mentioned that's because the rules were different back then. Anyway, since the rules changed again, we can't have even stepcest. Mothers has gone from mom's to step mom's to landladies.
 

morphnet

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Edit: I mean Trump does not want to remove this law but make the companies who claim the section 2-30 privilege actually accountable to Americas first amendment and not their own TOS.
Have you read and understood the US first amendment?

Have you read and understood the three prong-test?

GGGB from Eva Kiss is still on Patreon but the users mentioned that's because the rules were different back then.
Some games slip through, either from patreons side or from lack of reports but any implication that patreon is allowing it to stay because it was added before any rule changes is incorrect. Also from what I can see it was added after the rules.

Anyway, since the rules changed again, we can't have even stepcest. Mothers has gone from mom's to step mom's to landladies.
I haven't played the game but after it was mentioned above I did a search through the game thread for patreon, patreon warning and patreon ban, the comments / posts there talked about a "stepsister" who is not bloodrelated and that some people wanted to wait for a incest patch but other said that a patch would not work as the story would not make sense if they were related. It could be that it a a close friend who is referred to as sister or it could be that she (the stepsister) joined the family through marriage (which would still be breaking patreon rules as the closest they allow is in laws) so that is why it "could" be one that slipped past but without knowing more can't say for sure.
 
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anne O'nymous

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Yes because those categories offend far less than adult devs and you know it.
So, let's be clear here. You want for Patreon to apply their rules with partiality, only controlling creators that can possibly, and from your sole point of view, offend more than the others.
And you want this because you are convinced that Patreon apply their rules with partiality, what you found as being totally unfair...

And it's not the only point where you are fully ridiculous.
In the same sentence you also claim that adult game devs fall in the most offending category. This while the very first point prohibited by is: "Patreon strictly prohibits terrorism and violent extremism on the platform. Works that praise, support, or represent dangerous organizations or affiliated individuals will be removed from Patreon."

But, yeah, you're surely right, praising and promoting terror groups, like ISIS by example, is far less offending than having incest in an adult game. It's well known... I guess...


A Wife and Mother
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-215f-lust-passion.5944/
Patreon prohibited content (by tags): incest
Patreon active account: No
Funny how, in order to have a "top 10", you had to starts with a game that have been kicked out of Patreon.


Milfy City
https://f95zone.to/threads/milfy-city-v1-0e-icstor.8012/
Patreon prohibited content (by tags): incest, rape
The content is not available from Patreon. It's only available through a fan made patch. The game do not violate Patreon rule.


Same, the content is not available from Patreon. Incest is only available through one of the many fan made (without emphasis needed) patches; from memory there's four of them.


Dating My Daughter
https://f95zone.to/threads/dating-my-daughter-ch-1-4-v1-01-mrdots-games.597/
Patreon prohibited content (by tags): incest
The game is not available through Patreon. You can search on Mr Dots Patreon page, there isn't a single mention about Dating My Daughter.

It need to dig in F95Zone archives, but Mr Dots goes full transparency when Patreon ban started, and most of the exchange he had with Patreon, if not all of them (it's been 7 years, pardon my blurry memory) have been also published here. He had to fight during three-four months, and the full script for his second game, Melody, had to be approved by Patreon team, prior to the first release, for him to keep his account.


I'll not continue to keep the names, because unlike you I see no reason to be a snitch and I see no reasons to attract Patreon attention on game that violate their rules. But among the 6 following games, four need a patch, not available from Patreon, for them to have incest.

Among the two others, there's one that I haven't played, so I can't say. As for the last one, the only incest content I remember about is limited to sisters sharing the MC, but not really interacting sexually together. Therefore, it's more a case of laxly applied tag, than a case of Patreon banned content.


In the end, from your Top 10 offending games list:
  • 1 Have been banned from Patreon;
  • 1 Is not available through Patreon;
  • 6 Need a patch, not available from Patreon, for them to have banned content;
  • 1 Do not actually have real incest content;
  • 1 Possibly have incest directly available, but I haven't played it, so I'm not sure.

I hope that you can understand how absolutely not impressive your demonstration was.

The only thing you proved with your post is that you have no fucking clue regarding what you talk about. But this didn't needed yet another confirmation.
 
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anne O'nymous

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[sorry for the double post - and yes, another topic need another post]
GGGB from Eva Kiss is still on Patreon but the users mentioned that's because the rules were different back then.
Strictly speaking it works.
The rules forbid to fund a game that contain this/that. If the game was finished before the ban, then it's not funded anymore. And if the game is finished when the account is caught, it's not anymore funded, while the rules do not state that the sanction can be applied retroactively.

Legally speaking, the only thing that Patreon can do is to ask for all mention of the game to be removed from the page.