Why is everyone here obsessed with NTR?

[Geigi]

There are so many controversial porn topics out there like rape, drugs, beastiality, necrophilia, My Little Pony, and you don't see as much complaining but God forbid there being a game where the male MC is not banging every woman.

You must have been living in a cave if you think that people don't complain about controversial taboo stuff.

There's a reason for that, the fetishes you list are all about seeing a taboo but it's not real, so there's no real moral downside. Take the rape fetish, in a sex game it can happen and then she gets heart eyes, where as a depiction where she breaks down and cries is too real and depressing.

The NTR fetish is about feeling sexual jealousy.

I have never gotten a straight answer to this question, if you don't self insert, then why do NTR enjoyers want it to be NTR, as in the scenario be from the pov of the cuck?

I can enjoy a game where it's a fuckfest but lets be honest about what's going on when the game has you play the MC standing in a doorway watching the other guy bang the woman he wants to fuck.

Of course those who like NTR either don't insert(like in any other game) or self insert as a cuck. If they would want to self insert as a bull, they would play Netori games. It's just that not many will admit it.

 

[MissFortune]

At this point, I'm almost convinced people who go out of their way to complain about NTR is pure accismus.

immoral

To who? You? Just because you find it that doesn't mean the vast majority of the world does. People are complex like that. They don't share your views, nor should you force your views onto others. It doesn't matter what your creed is, or what your tastes are. They're yours and yours alone.

Praising Hitler/Nazis is objectively immoral. Jerking off to jailbait is objectively immoral. A consenting couple finding pleasure in a legal fetish is not.

 

[mahligl]

I kinda feel that our 'male' culture now is obsessed with NTR, cuckolding and such, and it is larger than what's happening in the AVN world.

I have no idea whether there is a psychological/sociological explanation for it.

If you visit /pol/ you may read a lot of conspiracy theories about them making us, white hetero-sexual male, liking BBC (not the british broadcasting), cuckolding and, well, NTR. As always such conspiracy theories are promoted by people who are weirdly fascinnated with this stuff but cannot accept this.

What I find fascinating is the fact that netori stuff is not popular. Even when you have harem games, it is usually very light on this topic.

It is like there is an almost prevalent urge to feel inferior to other males.

Personally, I don't really like NTR because it doesn't get me aroused, but the fact that so many people are infuriated with it is almost as telling as the fact that so many people crave this stuff.

 

[skyblueaster]

I love NTR. It is the best. NTR is love. NTR is life.
I ran out of NTR VN to read. So I'm making my own NTR game now.

By the way…
I love NTR.

 

[Geigi]

What I find fascinating is the fact that netori stuff is not popular. Even when you have harem games, it is usually very light on this topic.

Yeah, I was wondering too. How come harem is more popular than netori? Even NTR and Netorase is preferred over Netori.

 

[tanstaafl]

Yeah, I was wondering too. How come harem is more popular than netori? Even NTR and Netorase is preferred over Netori.

A huge number of harem has netori aspects in them. They usually just don't get marked as netorare or ntr on this site. Check out the master list of netori games that can be found on these forums and you'll find a lot of games not marked with either.

Case in point: Away from Home is a straight up netori game. Not marked as ntr as netorare.

 

[Dryme]

A huge number of harem has netori aspects in them. They usually just don't get marked as netorare or ntr on this site. Check out the master list of netori games that can be found on these forums and you'll find a lot of games not marked with either.

Why are you talking like a support agent?

 

[Horny & Unemployed]

I love NTR. It is the best. NTR is love. NTR is life.
I ran out of NTR VN to read. So I'm making my own NTR game now.

By the way…
I love NTR.

Guys I don't know what gave it away , but , maybe … I think he loves NTR

 

[tanstaafl]

Why are you talking like a support agent?

Why are you following me?

 

[Dryme]

Why are you following me?

I like you, bozo

 

[Dssunra2]

I don't think people are upset that you wrote 5 lines or wanted to start a conversation.
I think the problem is that for years this particular topic "Why so much NTR ?" was being brought up at least once a week, or it feels like it at least( I don't think it's possible to take statistics of this claim though ) and the answer was and is always the same: "It's not actually as much as you claim it is and the forum stats confirm it."

As someone who openly admits liking ntr among plenty other fetishes it also feels slightly disrespectful. There are so many controversial porn topics out there like rape, drugs, beastiality, necrophilia, My Little Pony, and you don't see as much complaining but God forbid there being a game where the male MC is not banging every woman.

As to how I can enjoy ntr, it is actually simple and you also answered it yourself, I just do not ever self insert into any genre I play.
Personally I would compare playing an ntr game to watching a slasher / splatter movie. I know what I am getting into, I know there will be dark and disturbing scenes and I still watch and enjoy it anyway for multiple reasons.

As to why there are "so many" ntr games being made I can think of 3 possibilities
- Some developers think that this tag is a low hanging fruit that will attract a niche community for support.
- Some devlopers want to write a certain kind of story with some specific moments and they add the tag in fear of retribution from the fans. ( I've seen some games where the tag has no place but it was demanded by rabid players because of some side scene )
- More ntr enjoyers pick up dev work to try to create a game fitting their specific tastes rather than more devs becoming cucks. ( Since ntr is a very broad fetish it has plenty of tastes and flavors to the point where it is very difficult to find something you really like )

I think that way too, never insert myself into the MC's role when I play NTR

 

[Liturgy]

The most delicious women are naturally immoral and cunning. I'm sure you can see hints of that in your mother or ex, even if just a little. The idea of a woman choosing me as her partner and provider, only to naturally fall for a more genetically gifted man, is deeply erotic to me.

I didn't know if I wanted to repost this here; I feel it might upset you a bit. If you're somehow feeling a little aroused, maybe it's time to give that kink a chance. It feels different.

13 Basic Blunders to Cuckening

 

[obibobi]

You must have been living in a cave if you think that people don't complain about controversial taboo stuff.

Of course those who like NTR either don't insert(like in any other game) or self insert as a cuck. If they would want to self insert as a bull, they would play Netori games. It's just that not many will admit it.

Oh I am well aware of people complaining about it, just not in the same way. I mean playing or watching media that takes enjoyment in killing people is extremely common that it's normalized despite how awful that is in real life, taking pleasure in darker thoughts.

NTR is different in that the idea is wallowing in misery, sexual equivalent to a depressing drama that focuses on the protagonists suffering.

I am not here to insult people who like it, if they like the scenario but don't want to self insert as the person being stolen from then surely they would prefer or be indifferent to the pov not being the cuck like in Hero Party Must Fall, which seems very rare compared to NTR.

 

[VTPM]

At this point, I'm almost convinced people who go out of their way to complain about NTR is pure accismus.



To who? You? Just because you find it that doesn't mean the vast majority of the world does. People are complex like that. They don't share your views, nor should you force your views onto others. It doesn't matter what your creed is, or what your tastes are. They're yours and yours alone.

Praising Hitler/Nazis is objectively immoral. Jerking off to jailbait is objectively immoral. A consenting couple finding pleasure in a legal fetish is not.

Have you read what I wrote? Have I expressed my opinion in that sentence you quoted? I said it is something that is "PUBLICLY SHAMED" I do have my opinion on the subject. But on the context of that specifc sentence I was putting it generally, and if I don't live in a different fucking world, the last I checked, the majority of people don't like being cucked. Do you want me to chew even more of the information so you can understand my point? I don't want you to state the obvious like you did here. Ofc people have different tastes, the "why" is what I want, not the superficial take you made.

 

[VTPM]

Oh I am well aware of people complaining about it, just not in the same way. I mean playing or watching media that takes enjoyment in killing people is extremely common that it's normalized despite how awful that is in real life, taking pleasure in darker thoughts.

NTR is different in that the idea is wallowing in misery, sexual equivalent to a depressing drama that focuses on the protagonists suffering.

I am not here to insult people who like it, if they like the scenario but don't want to self insert as the person being stolen from then surely they would prefer or be indifferent to the pov not being the cuck like in Hero Party Must Fall, which seems very rare compared to NTR.

And adding to you point in both your posts, I think NTR is different than those other immoral and wrong fetishes, not only because of the Fictual nature they take in the games. But most societies where build in a monogomous world, where the man in the central figure and the "alpha". Of course there is change over the years, but NTR seems so out of the ordinary. The other things are just blatanly bad and crimes, and it differs based on where you were born and how much you were exposed to real scenarios of those things happening. But you just grow used to it, and you just expect men to rape because, humanity = selfish, bad. You never expect someone to feel good while being demorilized and diminished by people, that's not "normal". And yeah I do agree, and played, read and watched content that you can self insert as the bull. But that all depends on writing mostly, if I can't emphatize, I don't care, but if the writer makes you care, its fucked. (For me! Other people may think its fucking exciting)

 

[BogoHobo]

I am not a kink shamer nor would I deny anyone their kinks (hell, I am sure I have some fucked up ones too to some people) but being the ever constant knowledge seeker that I am...I do have a curiosity about how a indivual would let (and encourage in most cases) a loved one or possibly the love of their life, fuck someone else thus taking the chance that the loved one will take it upon themselves to think that well he was ok with me fucking his friend/co-worker/stranger so I guess I could just decide to do it on my own when he is not around. This would be compounded ten fold if she does it on multiple occasions with the same guy she is cucking her pertner with. Pretty easy to lead to conclusion given the human physci (IMO). That would have to be a relationship/love made of iron. Not always a pleasent outcome I would wager on the odds. I just want to know what would lead someone to that sexual path. I really don't care about the act itself, to each his own I guess. Is it a lack of self confidence or a self inposed degree of inadequacy or in the case of he just gets off on it. Why not just watch others do it but not your girl/partner?

 

[VTPM]

Putting aside your choice of wording for a second, you made a few other mistakes too.

1) You tried to include everyone who plays NTR games together.

I'm assuming for now that by NTR you are referring to netorare, not all players play netorare games for the jealousy / lose aspect. There are many other reasons why people play it.

2) You made the assumption that these players can't separate fantasy from reality.

You said in the OP "Is this generation just a bunch of losers who think they can't fuck properly?" and in your response to me "why people come to the realisation they like NTR and being Cucked". This is you assuming people can't separate fantasy and reality and you trying to shame them. Just because someone like playing NTR games DOES NOT mean they like being cucked or that they self-insert.

This is YOU having the problem of being unable to separate the two and then projecting it on others. This is also further reinforced and shows some ignorance as you seem to try to connect playing NTR games with "can't fuck properly"

3) You brought up the amount of NTR games releasing as an issue.

You made an inaccurate assertion about noticing how many games are releasing. One, some were updating and not releasing and two, there were nowhere near as many as you were trying to imply.

At every turn you picked the worst possible way to start a thread and word an OP. Implying a large influx of games, implying sexual disfunction of players and adding insults. How else did you honestly think the thread would turn out?



Suppling information and facts that disprove your point can hardly be considered crying you a river. It is rather strange that you seem to want to continue the hostile attitude while accusing others of being mad?



Swearing was not and is not the problem. The problem was the insults and what many would consider covering up an attack with a after thought question.

I.E. "There is soooo many NTR games now and I think you are all losers who can't have sex and like to be cucked... oh and by the way why do you like NTR?"

That is how it came across to some people. For future reference, leave out the insults and hostility and just ask "hey guys, I was wondering what you enjoy about NTR games" or "I was just wondering why people enjoy NTR games" although this brings me back to my original point, if you use search, you will find MANY threads asking the same thing and get your answer there.

and again don't forget to bookmark the link so you don't need to see NTR games when searching for new games if you don't want to.

https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/#/cat=games/page=1/notags=258

I agree with some of the points, but nahhh man. You just have too much free time to spend typing

 

[skyblueaster]

Yeah, I was wondering too. How come harem is more popular than netori? Even NTR and Netorase is preferred over Netori.

Netori just feels weak as hell.
It just feels better to get your own girls and make your own way instead of stealing someone else’s.
Happiness at the cost of someone else’s just never sat right with me. Yeah, sometimes the other guy is a dick, but a lot of netori is literally stealing, coercion, and r×pe.

Netorare is literally on the opposite spectrum. Having something of yours stolen instead. I guess jealousy and rage f×p play a factor in it. And perhaps a hint of masochism. I guess netorare can turn into netori if you self-insert as the chad, but I know very few people that do that. Maybe vanilla readers who refuse to accept the genre? It would be missing the point of the work and inserting your own headcanon instead.

That being said, some of the nicest people in the world (my patrons) are NTR lovers. IDK maybe an anecdote but they're very kind and supportive.

 

[Ennoch]

but I know very few people that do that

You can add me.

 

[Juerhullycin]

1) Why can't you use the search function? if you had you would have seen how every other thread like this ends.

2) You're coming very close to kink shaming, if you don't like a kink / fetish, ignore it, use the tools the site offers to help you. Creating a thread and calling people who like a type of kink / fetish losers is a dick move.

3) In the last 7 days there have been 325 games added / updated of those only 40 are tagged with netorare
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In the last 30 days there has been 1378 games added / updated of those only 179 are tagged with netorare

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In the last 90 days there have been 3139 games added / updated of those only 393 are tagged with netorare

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You not being able to find something new to play has nothing to do with "how many NTR games are releasing"

You might also want to ask yourself, why as an adult you have so little self-control, you loose your shit on a forum over something you have direct control of ignoring?

Bookmarking and using the link below allows you to never see netorare in the updates, add the kinks / fetishes YOU like as needed.

https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/#/cat=games/page=1/notags=258

also the obligatory popcorn for these kinds of threads

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you would have an argument when that shit would get tagged, but frankly it isnt in 90% of the time. It only gets tagged if its so blatant that its the main theme of the game i have games on my ignore list where the dev said its NTR but that is not good enough for the mods.