Why is everyone here obsessed with NTR?

anne O'nymous

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I do have a curiosity about how a indivual would let (and encourage in most cases) a loved one or possibly the love of their life, fuck someone else thus taking the chance that the loved one will take it upon themselves to think that well he was ok with me fucking his friend/co-worker/stranger so I guess I could just decide to do it on my own when he is not around.
It's called "trust".

They know that "love" and "sex" are two different things, and they trust their partner. A trust that is obviously not blind. They don't starts a relationship and right the first day say, "hey, if you want to have sex with someone else, you can". It's something that grow with time and the love they share together.
What also mean that the said partner will not think that it's okay to do it in secret or, more globally, outside of the established rules.


That would have to be a relationship/love made of iron.
No, it's just shared love.
If you really love someone, you trust that person and don't fear that (s)he'll love you less just because (s)he have sex with someone else. And if that person really love you, (s)he'll not love you less because (s)he have sex with someone else.

This being said, you obviously confuse something since you starts by saying that it's the husband who give the okay to his wife, then call him "cuck". But he's not a cuck since it's him who authorized it.
In most countries there's hundreds, if not thousands, of libertine clubs where people have sex with persons that aren't their partner. There's hundreds millions peoples who are sharing their partners, have threesome, are in an open relationship. They aren't cuck because the said partner do not cheat on them.


I just want to know what would lead someone to that sexual path.
I'm tempted to answer: Love.

You love your partner to the point that you don't feel the urge to control her/him, period.
 
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you would have an argument when that shit would get tagged, but frankly it isnt in 90% of the time. It only gets tagged if its so blatant that its the main theme of the game i have games on my ignore list where the dev said its NTR but that is not good enough for the mods.
The tagging system is just weird and needs vetting/community voting.

I think I got into an argument with a mod on an unrelated topic, and he hate-tagged my game AI. Just like that.

It finally got removed now, but that's kind of lame it can happen. If a mod has a grudge against you, he can tag/untag your game as he likes, and there's almost no accountability when it happens.

My posts have also been removed from my own game thread before. All because I dared to ask people to support me so I can continue making content. Meanwhile, posts complaining about an NTR game having NTR stay up. Just very weird and inconsistent.
 
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It's called "trust".

They know that "love" and "sex" are two different things, and they trust their partner. A trust that is obviously not blind. They don't starts a relationship and right the first day say, "hey, if you want to have sex with someone else, you can". It's something that grow with time and the love they share together.
What also mean that the said partner will not think that it's okay to do it in secret or, more globally, outside of the established rules.




No, it's just shared love.
If you really love someone, you trust that person and don't fear that (s)he'll love you less just because (s)he have sex with someone else. And if that person really love you, (s)he'll not love you less because (s)he have sex with someone else.

This being said, you obviously confuse something since you starts by saying that it's the husband who give the okay to his wife, then call him "cuck". But he's not a cuck since it's him who authorized it.
In most countries there's hundreds, if not thousands, of libertine clubs where people have sex with persons that aren't their partner. There's hundreds millions peoples who are sharing their partners, have threesome, are in an open relationship. They aren't cuck because the said partner do not cheat on them.




I'm tempted to answer: Love.

You love your partner to the point that you don't feel the urge to control her/him, period.
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The tagging system is just weird and needs vetting/community voting.

I think I got into an argument with a mod on an unrelated topic, and he hate-tagged my game AI. Just like that.

It finally got removed now, but that's kind of lame it can happen. If a mod has a grudge against you, he can tag/untag your game as he likes, and there's almost no accountability when it happens.

My posts have also been removed from my own game thread before. All because I dared to ask people to support me so I can continue making content. Meanwhile, posts complaining about an NTR game having NTR stay up. Just very weird and inconsistent.
You "think" you got into an argument with a mod and they hate-tagged your game AI.

"there's almost no accountability when it happens"

First - your game's artwork looks AI. even if you say it's not. It looks it. Maybe if it didn't look it, there wouldn't have been an issue. You requested it changed and it got removed. Amazing that.

No, they can't tag/untag your game as they like. If you find that happening, then file a support ticket.

Second - yes, there is accountability.
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As for asking people to support you - I'm sure you did so in a way which broke a rule. If not, you should have filed a support ticket.

If there are posts which break rules regarding netorare in your game thread, report the posts. If it isn't resolved they way you think it should be, file a support ticket.

Says there is no accountability, but when they find their game with a tag they say is incorrect and submit a request to get the tag removed, it gets removed. Doesn't realize the irony.
 
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Netori just feels weak as hell.
It just feels better to get your own girls and make your own way instead of stealing someone else’s.
Happiness at the cost of someone else’s just never sat right with me. Yeah, sometimes the other guy is a dick, but a lot of netori is literally stealing, coercion, and r×pe.

Netorare is literally on the opposite spectrum. Having something of yours stolen instead. I guess jealousy and rage f×p play a factor in it. And perhaps a hint of masochism. I guess netorare can turn into netori if you self-insert as the chad, but I know very few people that do that. Maybe vanilla readers who refuse to accept the genre? It would be missing the point of the work and inserting your own headcanon instead.

That being said, some of the nicest people in the world (my patrons) are NTR lovers. IDK maybe an anecdote but they're very kind and supportive.

I really don't understand your logic here, you are saying it is weak to steal the girl of another, but then say it is not weak to have the one you "worked for" stolen?
And the point with the stealing, coercion and rape: there are dozens of NTR games and comics where the bull is some ugly bastard or another kind of prick who either rapes or blackmails the woman so I really don't understand why you are saying that it is problematic in Netori but not in NTR?
 

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You "think" you got into an argument with a mod and they hate-tagged your game AI.

"there's almost no accountability when it happens"

First - your game's artwork looks AI. even if you say it's not. It looks it. Maybe if it didn't look it, there wouldn't have been an issue. You requested it changed and it got removed. Amazing that.

No, they can't tag/untag your game as they like. If you find that happening, then file a support ticket.

Second - yes, there is accountability.
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As for asking people to support you - I'm sure you did so in a way which broke a rule. If not, you should have filed a support ticket.

If there are posts which break rules regarding netorare in your game thread, report the posts. If it isn't resolved they way you think it should be, file a support ticket.

Says there is no accountability, but when they find their game with a tag they say is incorrect and submit a request to get the tag removed, it gets removed. Doesn't realize the irony.
Could you please not disparage my game and my artist like that? It may look AI to you, but if you have nothing nice to say, then please stop with the snide comments, because it’s very hurtful especially to my artist.

Second, by accountability, I mean we do not know who removed what, and often it doesn't state the reason why. When tags do get added or removed, we are not informed of it either. Yes, a report can help "repair" the problem, but there are no checks to prevent it happening again.

In any case, I don't want to engage in this any more, because I don't really want to read more backhanded comments.
 

skyblueaster

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I really don't understand your logic here, you are saying it is weak to steal the girl of another, but then say it is not weak to have the one you "worked for" stolen?
And the point with the stealing, coercion and rape: there are dozens of NTR games and comics where the bull is some ugly bastard or another kind of prick who either rapes or blackmails the woman so I really don't understand why you are saying that it is problematic in Netori but not in NTR?
I find masochism and NTR have a decent overlap. For example, it feels worse taking something from someone than losing it myself.
This is from an M's perspective though. Again, netori fans probably find netorare inscrutable in its own way, haha.

By the way, I dont think of netori and netorare as "weak" or "strong." Just want to clear that up. Keep in mind I am a pacifist person in nature though, so netori is kind of... antithetical to my nature? Lol.

Lost a girl to my BF, and I wasn't the same since... *cries*
 

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I find masochism and NTR have a decent overlap. For example, it feels worse taking something from someone than losing it myself.
This is from an M's perspective though. Again, netori fans probably find netorare inscrutable in its own way, haha.
For me it is the reverse, of course I think kindness and such is important and if you can spare something, then why not give it to someone who needs it, but when it concerns my partner or some other important thing in my life then I would rather take it, than have it stolen.
And yes you are right, I really don't understand why someone would like this, but I don't need to, they can live their life and I live mine.
 

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For me it is the reverse, of course I think kindness and such is important and if you can spare something, then why not give it to someone who needs it, but when it concerns my partner or some other important thing in my life then I would rather take it, than have it stolen.
And yes you are right, I really don't understand why someone would like this, but I don't need to, they can live their life and I live mine.
That's a very understandable and realistic viewpoint. Thanks for explaining.
 
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Netori just feels weak as hell.
It just feels better to get your own girls and make your own way instead of stealing someone else’s.
Happiness at the cost of someone else’s just never sat right with me. Yeah, sometimes the other guy is a dick, but a lot of netori is literally stealing, coercion, and r×pe.
Well that's you, the wrongness of it is what makes it appealing, the appeal of seducing a reluctant wife or girlfriend, her being fucked in one room while her other half sits blissfully a few feet away. Like many fetishes it's like a spice, don't want it all the time, but it can be nice for variety.

As for the unhappiness, it's fiction, you don't have to have realistic fallout, if the the hero of some fantasy or action series doesn't need to deal with the fallout of the loved one's of all the henchmen he's killed, you can get away without hurt feelings when it comes to sleeping behind someone's back, happens all the time in real life without the other person ever finding out.
 
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I think the amount of NTR games is actually kind of falling(slowly), the last few years were really bad basically just a cuck fest. I think NTR gained popularity because most other fetishes that aren't completely vanilla got banned from patreon. Or perhaps maybe most guys actually are cucks?
 

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Well that's you, the wrongness of it is what makes it appealing, the appeal of seducing a reluctant wife or girlfriend, her being fucked in one room while her other half sits blissfully a few feet away. Like many fetishes it's like a spice, don't want it all the time, but it can be nice for variety.

As for the unhappiness, it's fiction, you don't have to have realistic fallout, if the the hero of some fantasy or action series doesn't need to deal with the fallout of the loved one's of all the henchmen he's killed, you can get away without hurt feelings when it comes to sleeping behind someone's back, happens all the time in real life without the other person ever finding out.
Definitely agree what you said there. I was just stating my personal thoughts.
Also your first scenario was kind of hot. I know your talking abouit the bull, but I was thinking about it from the perspective of the heroine, lol. ><

Sorry, when your brain is netorare-rotted like me, you want to see netorare in everything LMAO.
 
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A huge number of harem has netori aspects in them. They usually just don't get marked as netorare or ntr on this site. Check out the master list of netori games that can be found on these forums and you'll find a lot of games not marked with either.
I agree, I think it's partly because it's very easy to mistake the netorare tag for just netorare (I mean, it's literally the exact same word so I don't blame anyone for confusing it) if you're not already in the know. Mark my words, once the tag system is updated (assuming that ever happens) and netori becomes its own tag, we'll start seeing a lot more games adopt it.
 

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you would have an argument when that shit would get tagged, but frankly it isnt in 90% of the time. It only gets tagged if its so blatant that its the main theme of the game i have games on my ignore list where the dev said its NTR but that is not good enough for the mods.
A few things to note,

1) The more you exaggerate the more credibility you loose and 90% is a wild exaggeration.

2) As has been pointed out countless times, over MANY threads, over MANY years, games added are NOT always played by the mod or uploader that uploads them. They take the tags they find with the game and rely on members to report if tags need to be removed or added.

3) The site uses a set definition for each tag, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to use every definition that every member has for every tag. If the content fits the definition and is ingame AND it gets reported to add the tag, the tag is added.

You guys also conveniently seem to forget the cycles, some games getting new content updates, some games get abandoned and then start again, some games get "reworked" and some games release extra content in patches not to mention the fan made patches and content. With over 20677 games on the site the staff and mods need the communities help keeping track of tags and changes.
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4) Your assumption that "is not good enough for the mods" is laughable, the mods and staff already have their hands full dealing with the site, reports, tickets and adults unable to act like adults, to imply they would willingly give themselves more work by mistagging a game / games is ridiculous.

The tagging system is just weird and needs vetting/community voting.
https://f95zone.to/threads/new-tag-discussion.168425/
https://f95zone.to/sam/planned_tags-v2.html

I think I got into an argument with a mod on an unrelated topic, and he hate-tagged my game AI. Just like that.
Making unsubstantiated accusations like that is NOT helpful and only contributes to a more toxic environment. Can you prove that NO tickets were made by members asking for the AI tag to be added? etc.

It finally got removed now, but that's kind of lame it can happen. If a mod has a grudge against you, he can tag/untag your game as he likes, and there's almost no accountability when it happens.
These kinds of comments are really uncalled for, as I pointed out above, it's ridiculous to think mods and staff would make more work for themselves when they as volunteers already have their hands full. Plus there is the fact that with there being a number of different mods, if one of them was doing this they would be let go because again, it is creating A LOT more work when there is already a heavy work load and it would hurt the site and the community.

You also claim there is "almost no accountability when it happens" unless you have actual proof, screenshot of meetings, recording when you were actually there etc. saying something like this irresponsible.

My posts have also been removed from my own game thread before. All because I dared to ask people to support me so I can continue making content.
Almost every time someone says "all because" or "all I did was" or "I was just" it turns out they were 100% in the wrong. Do you really want a mod to post what you actually said here?

Meanwhile, posts complaining about an NTR game having NTR stay up. Just very weird and inconsistent.
Now giving you the benefit of the doubt here and assuming you are reaction typing and so not actually thinking it though, there are (as of me typing this) currently 227,791 threads, 15,065,231 messages and 8,370,066 members, with the handful of mods and staff do you really think they can monitor ALL of those without the help of the community?
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So exactly how is that weird? With 1762 games tagged netorare, they are supposed to monitor every comment in every thread? When do they handle site management? answering tickets? answering reports? adding / removing tags, providing assistance in the helps sections, uploading games etc. etc. etc. and now what about the comments in other game threads?

Maybe try be a little, just a little understanding?
 
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It's called "trust".

They know that "love" and "sex" are two different things, and they trust their partner. A trust that is obviously not blind. They don't starts a relationship and right the first day say, "hey, if you want to have sex with someone else, you can". It's something that grow with time and the love they share together.
What also mean that the said partner will not think that it's okay to do it in secret or, more globally, outside of the established rules.




No, it's just shared love.
If you really love someone, you trust that person and don't fear that (s)he'll love you less just because (s)he have sex with someone else. And if that person really love you, (s)he'll not love you less because (s)he have sex with someone else.

This being said, you obviously confuse something since you starts by saying that it's the husband who give the okay to his wife, then call him "cuck". But he's not a cuck since it's him who authorized it.
In most countries there's hundreds, if not thousands, of libertine clubs where people have sex with persons that aren't their partner. There's hundreds millions peoples who are sharing their partners, have threesome, are in an open relationship. They aren't cuck because the said partner do not cheat on them.




I'm tempted to answer: Love.

You love your partner to the point that you don't feel the urge to control her/him, period.
I find it a bit interesting that there is always a cheating tag with every game on here that has an NTR tag.
 
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I find it a bit interesting that there is always a cheating tag with every game on here that has an NTR tag.
Just a friendly reminder people can actually check when you make statements like this....

1762 games tagged netorare, 1015 of them do NOT have the cheating tag. side note 1144 games have the cheating tag and no netorare tag.

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I find it a bit interesting that there is always a cheating tag with every game on here that has an NTR tag.
Personally, what I find interesting, is the fact that you talk about "cheating" and "NTR", in response to something that talk about none. It's neither "cheating", because it's consensual, nor "NTR", because it change nothing regarding your own relationship.
In terms of tags, since it seem to be your referential when it come to relationship, I talked about "sharing".

And what is even more interesting is the fact that I was answering your own question regarding what can make someone accept to share his partner. In this answer, I explicitly pointed, and explained, the fact that it wasn't "cheating", nor "NTR". But, my bad, I did it by using real life terms, not game tags, must be what confused you...