Why the world hates us?

[MWPA78]

Something similar to that existed until recently in my country. I would say the entire idea that women having their identity merged with that of their husband is stupid. Distinct individuals deserve separate identities. Its just common sense.

Its just in terms of being a legal entity - eg. law, financial matters, etc.

Not as a human.

 

[tanstaafl]

Being happy/content is meaningful to everyone, what you wrote now says that there are different ways to get there. Which is true to an extent. But religion, community, family does the trick for very most - or would do. Without it people resort to all sorts of strange things to get it.

 

[MWPA78]

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[fyl3toys]

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Is she a princess or something?

 

[MWPA78]

I'm just curious.

No, you are not. Like any leftist you look to humiliate.

 

[Shiko200]

Is she a princess or something?

Its a black women i think

 

[Shiko200]

No, you are not. Like any leftist you look to humiliate.

And why would you be afraid of that then? If you think all lefties do is humiliate then learn to humiliate them back. I think you are a 14 year old who just discovered Andrew Tate or something.

 

[fyl3toys]

No, you are not. Like any leftist you look to humiliate.

That's not true. I was even going around looking for real life examples to back up this claim about men worshiping women.

I found one, but I dont like what I see...

 

[MWPA78]

And why would you be afraid of that then? If you think all lefties do is humiliate then learn to humiliate them back. I think you are a 14 year old who just discovered Andrew Tate or something.

Afraid? Are you going to ask next "who hurt you?"

As I'm no atheist I have certain values and humiliating people is not one of them.

Any further unpdate on the coverture topic?

 

[MWPA78]

Were you in an abusive relationship in the past? What you say is a little too spiteful like you've never been in a relationship, but there's always a chance some girlfriend beat the crap out of you. I'm just curious.

Was less than perfect to a few girls. Had almost exclusively very good experiences with girls - especially considering the times.

 

[Shiko200]

Afraid? Are you going to ask next "who hurt you?"

As I'm no atheist I have certain values and humiliating people is not one of them.

Any further unpdate on the coverture topic?

Hmmm i thought that topic was finished. I mean if you asked something specific regarding that then it would be easier for me to answer otherwise i already gave you my thoughts.

 

[fyl3toys]

Was less than perfect to a few girls. Had almost exclusively very good experiences with girls - especially considering the times.

We all make mistakes from inexperience, but you make it sound somewhat healthy so.....where did it all turn around then? I mean what changed your worldview to think healthy relationships are an impossibility now?

 

[MWPA78]

Hmmm i thought that topic was finished. I mean if you asked something specific regarding that then it would be easier for me to answer otherwise i already gave you my thoughts.

You seemed to be mistaken about what it means.

If not and your reply was about having problems with women being a legal non-entity that would mean you are a feminist, which would mean you do worship women to an extent, which would mean my initial statement about atheists was rather correct in this case.

 

[MWPA78]

We all make mistakes from inexperience, but you make it sound somewhat healthy so.....where did it all turn around then? I mean what changed your worldview to think healthy relationships are an impossibility now?

Because I saw in which way society affected an unusually healthy relationship. And that nothing can be done about it.

 

[DawnCry]

Just giving my two cents, is it true that the world hates men? no. Is it true that men in some countries in Europe and EEUU have an unfair treatment in some areas? yes.

Will just give a few of the examples that happen in my country Spain:

-Overprotective domestic violence law in which only the violence of men against women gets a heavy punishment, to the point that there is a specific court for that type of violence while all other types of domestic violence have much lesser punishments.

-Derivative of the last point based on that law a woman only needs a complaint to send you up to 72 hours to jail and it will activate all protocols related to it, included but not limited to losing the custody of the children, having heavy restrictions to personal freedom even if they are temporal, and having judges take said complaint as a fact in all other trials that are open until proved wrong.

-Quotas imposed on certain careers in favor of women and also in high workstations.

-Financial aid if a woman wants to start a business, do certain careers or if they did open a complaint against a man for domestic violence.

-In social culture it is acceptable to joke about killing, castrating and or doing any act in those lines against men, while it is unacceptable in the opposite way.

While we can debate if we need some of those restrictions/aid the objective truth is that these are priviledges and that in some of them there are even incentives to abuse them to obtain certain benefits. My view of nowadays is that this overprotection and priviledges no matter if we can justify some of them in part or in total have generated quite a few victims in the men spectrum and this has fueled a huge part of the counter-movement against feminism.

I do not intend to enter a debate of politics, the only thing I will say as my personal view is that it is recommended to acknowledge the unfair things that have been happening and the negative effects, because if not people that suffer under these laws will be victims and there is no easier group to radicalize than the victims.

 

[Shiko200]

You seemed to be mistaken about what it means.

If not and your reply was about having problems with women being a legal non-entity that would mean you are a feminist, which would mean you do worship women to an extent, which would mean my initial statement about atheists was rather correct in this case.

I am far from being a feminist in any sense whatsoever i just think every individual deserves their own separate identity. Maybe you are right i could have mistaken its definition for something else but i still stand firm with what i said.

 

[fyl3toys]

Because I saw in which way society affected an unusually healthy relationship. And that nothing can be done about it.

That sounds like one experience changed everything. And since the world affects each relationship in different ways I'm hard pressed to get behind anyone saying the world is at fault for anything to be honest. Especially when we are all so failable to begin with.

How did you determine the world was at fault and not the two people involved? Or some other factor even?

 

[MWPA78]

I am far from being a feminist in any sense whatsoever i just think every individual deserves their own separate identity. Maybe you are right i could have mistaken its definition for something else but i still stand firm with what i said.

A woman can have her own identity while not having an identity when it comes to legal stuff - eg. law, financial matters, rights.

Men often say they are not a feminist but they believe in women's rights - which makes them not a batshitcrazy feminist but a normal feminist.

 

[mom_liker]

Now I know you are trolling. Most would not. Hell, many women would choose to be born men. For many reasons.

Are you saying you wouldn't be born a girl (if you had a choice )with good looks like Nicki Minaj or Dua Lipa? I'm sorry, dude, but I think you're the one trolling.

 

[Count Morado]

Are you saying you wouldn't be born a girl with good looks like Nicki Minaj or Dua Lipa? I'm sorry, dude, but I think you're the one trolling.

1) You said pick between being a man or a woman - not specific people (or the talents/looks of specific people). And,
2) no, I would still pick being a man - if I could pick specifics, there are many I could choose (myself as I am, included) that would be considered more influential, more talented, more powerful, more intelligent, better looking, and more impressive than nearly all, if not all women when taking into account of how our current society values people based upon certain demographics.

This isn't even counting menstruation cycles, pregnancy, UTIs, and the other life matters that women go through as part of biology.

In our world, in our society, as it is right now - we (the collective we - world-wide) more value men than women. In Europe, North America, Australia, and in many other parts of the world - it's white people that are valued more than anyone. Even in countries where white people are not the dominating social group. It's greatly due to the entertainment, media, fashion industries, as well as the United States having been the most recent world power (after European Imperialism started fading). And at the top of the valued white people social group, the most valued is white men.

So no, even with all the whining in this thread about the falsely perceived persecution of men, particularly white men, they are still the "top dog" of the pack.

So, if I could pick - it would be to be a white man.

Oh wait. I am a white man. Boom.