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fmomaev

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for those who are unable to run it on mac in normal way:

right click on app 'game' > 'show package content' > 'contents' > 'macos' > run 'game' > enjoy
 

HunterSeeker

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May 13, 2017
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Makes perfect sense to me. Most people would be suspicious if a dev on this site started working on a new game without even finishing the current game they're working on.
 

malaac2025

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Makes perfect sense to me. Most people would be suspicious if a dev on this site started working on a new game without even finishing the current game they're working on.
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Dev is a wishy washy developer and has dropped games left and right.. The first WR was much much better story wise, art wise, and battle wise. Dev being wishy washy would not just say shut up it's a brothel game which is there job and is not NTR. No Dev does not have the strength of mind and instead made this project which is really a failure of the original.

Dev has already dropped games 3 times so you can't believe in this developer a good developer will finish the original game even if a failure to prove to the people that they will complete a game and will not abandon the project you support. This developer has failed that test miserably that and because of this he will never really get very many Patreon followers.

Dev shitty track Record
Wicked Rouge Release Date: 10-21-2019 Abandoned: 6-24-2021 (restart a game after 2 years of development and many updates this is milking Patreons)
Crown of Desire Release Date: 5-3-2024 Abandoned: 11-1-2024 (abandoned in 6 months so another failure as dev and belief in them as a dev)
Wicked Rouge Refine Release Date: 10-18-2021 (character design downgrade not as sexy, battle downgrade, and story downgrade came out)

The moment this developer did the remake on the first release for no reason at all was the moment he lost many followers faith in the developer. Once you go and pull a stunt like that you have destroyed any reputation you had and majority of the people will not believe enough to support them.


So NO it does not make sense!
 
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A. Dark

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Dev is a wishy washy developer and has dropped games left and right.. The first WR was much much better story wise, art wise, and battle wise. Dev being wishy washy would not just say shut up it's a brothel game which is there job and is not NTR. No Dev does not have the strength of mind and instead made this project which is really a failure of the original.

Dev has already dropped games 3 times so you can't believe in this developer a good developer will finish the original game even if a failure to prove to the people that they will complete a game and will not abandon the project you support. This developer has failed that test miserably that and because of this he will never really get very many Patreon followers.

Dev shitty track Record
Wicked Rouge Release Date: 10-21-2019 Abandoned: 6-24-2021 (restart a game after 2 years of development and many updates this is milking Patreons)
Crown of Desire Release Date: 5-3-2024 Abandoned: 11-1-2024 (abandoned in 6 months so another failure as dev and belief in them as a dev)
Wicked Rouge Refine Release Date: 10-18-2021 (character design downgrade not as sexy, battle downgrade, and story downgrade came out)

The moment this developer did the remake on the first release for no reason at all was the moment he lost many followers faith in the developer. Once you go and pull a stunt like that you have destroyed any reputation you had and majority of the people will not believe enough to support them.


So NO it does not make sense!
Glad you also noticed.. The decision to Downgrade a game in every single way possible, It's mind boggling why someone would even do that.. And issues with sharing girls in a ""Brothel"" management game?? That's even more hilarious..

The dev could have created an outstanding game if he countinued the original "Wicked Rogue" the way it was..
 

Darksol

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Feb 8, 2019
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I'm posting here some excerpts from a conversation with fidless, originally about the cancellation of Crown of Desire, but also about a release window for the next Wicked Rouge update and its content.

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Since you're a discord member can you tell if there's some talk about bad ending or making main girls work in brothel? Or it will remain completely vanilla till the end?
 
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Since you're a discord member can you tell if there's some talk about bad ending or making main girls work in brothel? Or it will remain completely vanilla till the end?
You could go and get the information yourself on the developer's Discord, you're pushing it a bit ! x) Discord is free and takes just two minutes to connect. Access to the chat rooms is easy, and the developer's Discord server isn't very active either.

I'll just quote few messages on his server obtained after a little Ctrl+F, and for the rest you're on your own :p :


MaxWills17/01/2024 08:25
"Will there be any implementation of a bad endings inspired by the hardcore digital art?"

fidless19/01/2024 22:42
:yes:



MaxWills30/07/2024 22:36
"Thank you. Do you plan to add the hardcore / dark paths to the game as potentially an alternative path or end game scenario?"

fidless30/07/2024 22:38
"As bad endings yes, maybe some perverted events too."


Otherwise I haven't found anything else yet, but I'm too lazy to go through all the discussions on this server, and then you can do it yourself, you're welcome :)
 
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Darksol

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You could go and get the information yourself on the developer's Discord, you're pushing it a bit ! x) Discord is free and takes just two minutes to connect. Access to the chat rooms is easy, and the developer's Discord server isn't very active either.
I'll just quote you a message from the dev on his server obtained after a little Ctrl+F, and for the rest you're on your own :p :

MaxWills30/07/2024 22:36
"Thank you. Do you plan to add the hardcore / dark paths to the game as potentially an alternative path or end game scenario?"

--> fidless30/07/2024 22:38
"As bad endings yes, maybe some perverted events too."


Otherwise I haven't found anything else yet, but I'm too lazy to go through all the discussions on this server, and then you can do it yourself, you're welcome :)
Thanks. And I tried joining his Discord few times but always got "This invitation is expired" message.
 
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D Dave

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Storywise the first one was better, the second feels like it was written by Disney.
And customers aren't properly randomized.
Difficulty is fine on hard, unless you use Otsu's gold steal skill.

Otherwise refine is better, or at least as good as.
 

fidless

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Oct 22, 2018
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Dev is a wishy washy developer and has dropped games left and right.. The first WR was much much better story wise, art wise, and battle wise. Dev being wishy washy would not just say shut up it's a brothel game which is there job and is not NTR. No Dev does not have the strength of mind and instead made this project which is really a failure of the original.

Dev has already dropped games 3 times so you can't believe in this developer a good developer will finish the original game even if a failure to prove to the people that they will complete a game and will not abandon the project you support. This developer has failed that test miserably that and because of this he will never really get very many Patreon followers.

Dev shitty track Record
Wicked Rouge Release Date: 10-21-2019 Abandoned: 6-24-2021 (restart a game after 2 years of development and many updates this is milking Patreons)
Crown of Desire Release Date: 5-3-2024 Abandoned: 11-1-2024 (abandoned in 6 months so another failure as dev and belief in them as a dev)
Wicked Rouge Refine Release Date: 10-18-2021 (character design downgrade not as sexy, battle downgrade, and story downgrade came out)

The moment this developer did the remake on the first release for no reason at all was the moment he lost many followers faith in the developer. Once you go and pull a stunt like that you have destroyed any reputation you had and majority of the people will not believe enough to support them.


So NO it does not make sense!
This will be my last comment on F95. Hentai Punch! was my first game, more of an experiment, and I abandoned it early due to time constraints and a full-time job. Positive feedback later inspired me to try again, so I created Wicked Rouge, partly inspired by another game, Oiran Rouge, which had an interesting mix of story and gameplay. WR was generally liked but also criticized. Writing was a challenge, so I hired a writer and rebooted it as WR: Refine.

Financially, Refine wasn’t a success, but that didn’t stop me. We made around ten chapters with meaningful gameplay and content, even though constant negativity led me to rush the story and scale back darker paths originally planned for 30% of the game. Ironically, the very critics who kept pushing for this content, thinking they could bully me into rushing the process, ultimately caused it to be reduced.

As Wicked Rouge neared completion, I began planning CoD, hoping for a smooth transition. But I faced similar negativity and even sabotage, including fake reports on itch.io, where fake reports got the game removed from the front page at launch. So, I’ve decided to finish WR and shift to working on it as a hobby, for those who genuinely support the game.

I still love developing, and the quality of Wicked Rouge and CoD speaks for itself. Now, I’m happier working on my own terms, completing Refine's main story, and after that just continuing working on the new content fans have wanted from the very beginning. I’m focused on what interests me and creating for those who appreciate it, regardless of ongoing negativity.
 
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ejadrien

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Dev is a wishy washy developer and has dropped games left and right.. The first WR was much much better story wise, art wise, and battle wise. Dev being wishy washy would not just say shut up it's a brothel game which is there job and is not NTR. No Dev does not have the strength of mind and instead made this project which is really a failure of the original.

Dev has already dropped games 3 times so you can't believe in this developer a good developer will finish the original game even if a failure to prove to the people that they will complete a game and will not abandon the project you support. This developer has failed that test miserably that and because of this he will never really get very many Patreon followers.

Dev shitty track Record
Wicked Rouge Release Date: 10-21-2019 Abandoned: 6-24-2021 (restart a game after 2 years of development and many updates this is milking Patreons)
Crown of Desire Release Date: 5-3-2024 Abandoned: 11-1-2024 (abandoned in 6 months so another failure as dev and belief in them as a dev)
Wicked Rouge Refine Release Date: 10-18-2021 (character design downgrade not as sexy, battle downgrade, and story downgrade came out)

The moment this developer did the remake on the first release for no reason at all was the moment he lost many followers faith in the developer. Once you go and pull a stunt like that you have destroyed any reputation you had and majority of the people will not believe enough to support them.


So NO it does not make sense!
Some people complained about the sharing part I guess, like the H-content is more vanilla now, more romance stuff and less sharing. u cant even do mmf training and mmf stuff has been removed completely. Its a brothel game, the goal is to sell those girls and corrupt them to the fullest. i dont mind the romantic stuff but why remove the most spicy stuff....it doesnt really make sense....I was in my top three of Hgames and i actually subbed to the patreon.....well now its totally not worth it
 

21_chan

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Jul 21, 2018
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I'm quite happy to see other people say what i have been thinking for a while now , first game was much much better characters had personality , and there was some a lot of spicy stuff in there . when he said im going to remake the game i thought maybe he is going to do things a different way , but no it was just cut content , everything became tame , combat system became generic Rpg combat system , and every girl became same person with different breast sizes :) ...

the best comparison i can give you just in case you didn't play both games , this is Overwatch 1 and 2 story (saying hey we are making a new game everything gonna be better , proceed to make the same game then lost development time then find out btw the first game was actually good lets go back to that ):).

i think fidless can get a job at blizzard, at this point .:whistle:
 

ejadrien

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Aug 8, 2017
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like I wonder what happened behind the scenes...the OG was fine:cry::cry::cry: and had positive reviews all over the place..if it aint brocken why change it. I could see the game expanding even more and more, it was heading in a good direction...nice looking girls, story was good already, spicy scenes. a good training system for the huzz...and updates were released on time imma say..never too long. now its two games and credit where its due..the art is amazing but thats it...call us nostalgia merchant if u want
 

OhGodNotAgain

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Financially, Refine wasn’t a success, but that didn’t stop me. We made around ten chapters with meaningful gameplay and content, even though constant negativity led me to rush the story and scale back darker paths originally planned for 30% of the game. Ironically, the very critics who kept pushing for this content, thinking they could bully me into rushing the process, ultimately caused it to be reduced.
People being hypocrites?
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filipskyi

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So, if I understand correctly... Dev decided to remove all the "brothel" content (sharing, training, prostitution) from a "brothel" themed game to turn it into another 9999 generic vanilla/romance game? Fascinating.
 
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