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What should he do, just ignore them completely ? I don't see any disconnect there.
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I don't see it either. He can form a volleyball team at the day AND "fool around" (= fuck the girls) after office hours (in the evening and at night). He also got 24 hours every day like anyone else. Minus 2 to 3 hours training means that there is a lot of time left for other things. And do not forget: THIS IS A SEX STORY! ... and not a sportsman biography or an official report for the national social service department, division "girls with big behavioural problems".
MC's goal is to to train the team and win the preliminary rounds to set his life back on track. There is so much monologue and dialogue in the game about how much he is grateful for this opportunity and how much he wants to succeed. He doesn't need to ignore the girls. But it is idiotic to try to fuck all the girls in his new, tentative team and not think that it will blow up in his face and ruin his chances to succeed.
THAT is my problem with the writing of the game. It doesn't make any fucking sense for the MC to do this shit, regardless of how dumb he is. I don't want the game to be some "sportsman biography" or something like that. I want the game to have logic behind MC's actions, considering how much thought is put into his motivations in the beginning of the game. He shouldn't rush into this shit like he does right now and instead let the relationships at least slightly develop before trying to fuck the girls.
I like the game a lot overall. But stuff like this gets on my nerves a lot considering how impeccable the rest of the game has been. It is a bit tropey, but it is the good kind of tropey.
THAT is my problem with the writing of the game. It doesn't make any fucking sense for the MC to do this shit, regardless of how dumb he is. I don't want the game to be some "sportsman biography" or something like that. I want the game to have logic behind MC's actions, considering how much thought is put into his motivations in the beginning of the game. He shouldn't rush into this shit like he does right now and instead let the relationships at least slightly develop before trying to fuck the girls.
I like the game a lot overall. But stuff like this gets on my nerves a lot considering how impeccable the rest of the game has been. It is a bit tropey, but it is the good kind of tropey.
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He isn't. He hasn't initiated any of the current H-scenes with the intent of having sex and in fact has not had actual sex with anyone.
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Yes. unfortunately. With this "speed" the story will probably go over 20 chapters (or ten years). I hope we will all be still alive then.
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Highly doubt it with RU recovering. Predictions is around 2030 then mushroom clouds will rain down.
But hey lets enjoy the life we have left
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Anyways, WE need Saki and Desi Signatures. And quite literally a signature with the MC. Shameful to waste his looks not being on a signature with his ancient greek god physique
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Honest question, what exactly is stopping you for not pursuing the girls if you think it's an idiotic thing to do? I really don't understand your complaint.
What exactly is the difference between fucking now and fucking later that makes one idiotic but not the other?
lol figured I'd give the update a try because it's entertaining if a little off the rails... Can't though as it's broken saves, no problem I thinks, I'll load another, nope, can't even access the save menu at all now. Not sure what the dev did with the code but it wasn't coherant... much like the Violence at school chick and Lexi and the whole, I've just met this girl but she's mildy annoying so I have to seriously struggle to not slap her. Not quite coherant. Sadly this renders it unplayable though and not just weird.
Bro, you are looking to this situation as an outsider, i wont say there isnt some mistake here and there, nobody is perfect, but think this as Mc, he is a guy that dedicate his life to the sport, never a date, never mess around, he was obsesive with winning, so now that he lost that, is not suprising that he cant control himself and even more important that he doesnt know the consequences of his action, to him, this is a new experience, so he just losing control, but believe me it will have consequences, even if the Dev decide to make it a harem, it wont come easy, we have already see that the dev isnt afraid of hurting his Mc.
Another thing that i want to explain is that he isnt the only one with social difficulties, let think about the girls he has had something, Lexi is an open girl, i am pretty sure she wont have an issue with the Mc messing around with other girls but with how much of a sore loser she is she will try to make him choose her as her favorite, Saki is weird so even if it bothers her, she would try harder to make him fall for her, i dont see her fighting for him since she has such a inferiority complex, and Eve is the only one i see having a problem with it, but she is a pretty emotional girl, right now i dont see
how the problem Can be resolve, but she still can be convinced, of that i am sure, thats how good lopaphi writing is.
So yeah, i understand your point and this is an issue that cant be resolve yet, but depending on how lopaphi resolve the problem, it can be saved, let the man cook.
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Oh I think that Lexi is probably the only one of the cast that is definitely not a "sore loser", but much more the key to the MC to open his mind and to dismantle his stiffness. With her uninhibited attitude she can open him to the "real world" that will help him to discover his own sexuality and to be furthermore more relaxed opposite the other real-problem-girls.
So if I were the dev, I would build on a hot and deep going sexual relationship between Lexy and him that paves the way to a more easy going relationship of MC to all the other women. This would be helpful for the story and could tear down the obstacles between MC and the problem girls (mainly Zoe and Fiona but also Saki) that still prevents a well-spirited volleyball team. Then the rest will be a no-brainer and makes it easy to believe that the MC will succeed with his coaching job. And btw: A harem is here not necessary and probably also not very credible.
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I honestly just think Mok wants MC to confirm a relationship with a girl before the sexual part. And then i guess he wants MC to go after the other girls when the MC is already in said relationship. I honestly have been trying to get my head around this dudes mindset but its literally impossible.
(Let the relationships atleast slightly develop before fucking the girls)
1. MC hasn't fucked a girl yet, still a virgin
2. Mok either wants MC to be a cheating scumbag or wait for marriage or do the usual trope get a handjob then blowjob then tit reveal, pussy reveal and then sex.
3. Bro would be surprised how fast people fuck irl after just meeting each other. But MC is taking his time getting to know the girls and trying to recruit them back into the team. Thats called development when said persons starts noticing the other person (eve noticed MC being ripped) and that started that entire thing between them.
Saki and MC shares literally the same story with being a troubled and lost soul so theres already an connection right there.
Lexi is Lexi. Nah but ill be real, Lexi really thought it was strange and interesting that MC acted the way he did with her being out cold and when he barely reacted to her being naked. It really piqued her interest in him. MC being his stiff self really lost time spending the day dancing with Lexi at the club in their first encounter. Something that the old MC would never ever do. She opened him up to a new bliss and unstiffness.
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I don't think that's what Mok wants because he considered fucking the girls is counterproductive to MC's goal of trying to build a team to win. This is true IRL because that's mixing business with pleasure which is often not optimal for business purposes. This is already solved by Mok having the choice to not pursue the girl if he truly believes in his logic.
But then Mok said MC should wait a bit before fucking the girl. This makes zero sense because regardless fucking now or later, it's still mixing business with pleasure which contradicts his previous point.
Personally, I don't think he actually knows what he wants and he's just kind of writing himself to a corner for the purpose of criticizing the writing. He knows he doesn't like that MC fucks the girls instead of focusing in building the team, but he doesn't know how to make it still a porn game while maintaining his logic of prioritizing the team first.
I think the exact opposite. Harem makes absolute sense in this game because MC had to build relationship first before getting the players joining the team, so there is already a certain level of bond between MC and each girl before the girls joined the team. Once together as a team, then the bond between the girls would naturally develop too. That's as sensible as how a harem could be implemented into a game. The characters grow together.
Well i do understand why he wants the Mc to wait before fucking the girls, right now all of them are creating a relationship, they are knowing each other and getting close, IRL some people do wait before givin that step, and the characters have such a great writing, that doing a little waiting would make them feel more real, still he forget 2 thing: that this is a porn game, and that having sex doesnt make them closer, since even IRL you can have sex with someone and not get closer.
I do agree with you, this kind of situation are perfect for a Harem, since not only the Mc has to get closer to the Li, but they have to get closer to each other to make the team work, so lets hope.
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The issue that I have with the whole "waiting for later" complaint of Mok's is that it's not as if MC is actively pursuing all the girls like a horndog desperate for sex. In fact, it's almost the opposite. Lexi was the one pursuing MC. Saki's was coincidental and not planned at all. Eve is the one where MC was quite proactive about it, but it also made sense because Eve was the one who was already in the team from the start so they are already closer to each other than to the other girls.
Speaking of IRL comparison, the fact is that different people act differently. There is no one set rule for everyone. In this case, the game actually portrayed the relationship progression quite realistically. There is one where the girl was proactive, there is one where they got together due to circumstances, and there is one where they both kind of want it but stopped due to circumstances. This is not a game where MC just dials up the charm to the max and all the girls fall for him just because.
I still think Mok's complaint is very easily fixed by changing his perspective.
I have literally listed what I want from the story in one of my posts... And that is not avoiding sexual content completely until relationships develop, I just want for there to be some logic behind MC's actions and thoughts.
And then specified that I am not actually expecting the dev to implement everything I want since it is a challenging task even for experienced devs.
Why should I as a player waste my time and create artificial constraints just to make the game make sense?
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I have literally addressed each and every point of this before. https://f95zone.to/threads/wild-cats-v0-2-lopaphi.215260/post-15882106
Because it makes zero sense for you to complain about something that already has a solution.
You: I find it really unbelievable that the MC would try to fool around with the girls in his team when he has so much to lose if the team breaks down because of jealously and cat fights between the girls.
Also you: Let's fool around with the girls anyway, MC.
It really sounds like the complaint is merely for the sake of complaining rather than an actual thought process that you believe in. It's really a shame.
Arguing with gooners on a porn forum seems to be a very pointless endeavor (who would have thought). I share my personal criticisms of the game and what I think could be improved further down the line and yet get thrown into my face that I actually don't believe in what I am saying and that I am playing the game wrong. Cool
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I guess that's what happens when personal criticism that makes no sense is posted on public forum.
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You forget that a harem costruct where the man (MC) has affairs with all the other girls is extremely explosive for the team as a whole. Jealousy will be all around and could blast the freshly assembled girls volleyball team. Oh come on, in reallity there will probably no "bond between the girls naturally develop too" as you write. How could be there any bond between the girls when they are all after the same man? Forget it. This is only the base for a huuuuuge cat fight. High Bitch Alert. And pure poison for this VN about a man to form a team. In case you can prevent these awful consequences by a literary knack I am absolutely for a harem, a kind of fuck-the-girls-merry-go-round. I love this!
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