VN Ren'Py Witch Hunter Trainer [2023-08-07] [Team Borsch]

[ZOObastik]

these are absolutely amazing, were they all from ZOObastik?

Yep, that's just my own fanart album to this game =)

since you're into doing fan art for them, have you tried contacting them to see if you could cooperate with their team and get paid?

Yeah, I've tried to reach them circa last summer, but back then they said that don't look for any help. And then there was a post in a few months that they found someone...
That gave me vibes like with a girl who says that she don't want relationship, and in a few weeks (or even days) you see her with a new guy. And turn out that she was saying "I don't want relationship with you", where "with you" is unpronounceable consonant like W in the word "Sword"

 

[ZOObastik]

Kinda surprised you don't have a few versions of jack with tattoos or something, but if you don't like drawing layers like that, so be it!

Although I definitely has no issue with tattooed girls (I was even subscribed to suicide girls for about a year) and it can look really pretty, but lorewise I don't see a scenario how Jack ends up with tattoos. And moreover, which ones?

Well, besides obvious pink womb on his/her lower belly for some whore/street hooker outfit

 

[slowpersun]

but lorewise I don't see a scenario how Jack ends up with tattoos.

Well, she already went to the sea once... but yeah, in terms of lore/history it really shouldn't happen, back then basically only sailors picked tats up. Fingers crossed she hits up a sailor's tavern next time she decides to try to see the mermaid again (alternatively the devs could add it into that part of game, but they seem to have enough trouble delivering anything they already promise...).

 

[ZOObastik]

Fingers crossed she hits up a sailor's tavern next time she decides to try to see the mermaid again

Hmm... Sailor/pirate Jack version...
I've got a sudden inspiration and urge to draw it =)

Did you know that eyepatches are great for bikinis?

But guess it's even better without it =)

 

[cxx]

no update ?? its been more then year

there was small (aka normal on their standards) update in december.

 

[slowpersun]

Hmm... Sailor/pirate Jack version...

It would be cool for this game to have multiple endings for where Jack ends up (so becoming a pirate is a possibility, or a courtesan (a classy prostitute), a regular prostitute (ie, stripper), regular monster hunter, dead, etc.). But then again, we all know this game ain't never gonna end...

 

[Samtimex]

ZOObastik's arts is peak.

 

[stavrosmangaros]

Yep, that's just my own fanart album to this game =)


Yeah, I've tried to reach them circa last summer, but back then they said that don't look for any help. And then there was a post in a few months that they found someone...
That gave me vibes like with a girl who says that she don't want relationship, and in a few weeks (or even days) you see her with a new guy. And turn out that she was saying "I don't want relationship with you", where "with you" is unpronounceable consonant like W in the word "Sword"

lmao at the example with women

Don't be disappointed because they might have been thinking that your art doesn't resemble the original as closely as they would have liked. Also that's assuming they rejected the notion while they were missing help for drawing Sam, Jack etc because many times they might have an artist for the characters but might miss an artist for backgrounds, maps, buildinds etc.

If you came to them with an idea about a different project, to not participate in the game, but for example make a comic about the game? They had many ideas that they abandoned with various updates, you could just hear out those ideas and draw them. This way they can have something to present their patreons, and maybe even increase them. Same with creating alternate scenarios with things that already happened in the game but with a different ending, which is what you have pretty much drawn in your fan art anyways. You would just tie it out in a story. If i was you, i would have proposed to them a project like this, and if they reject you a second time, then so be it, but it seems like a great waste of your talents plus your drawings match the vibe of the game so well. Why not get paid while doing it? I could help with a very raw script and present various ideas to you if you needed any help, but i'm afraid i wouldn't have the time to help more than that.

 

[slowpersun]

If you came to them with an idea about a different project, to not participate in the game, but for example make a comic about the game? They had many ideas that they abandoned with various updates, you could just hear out those ideas and draw them.

Plus, it's a porn game produced by Russians. The likelihood of you getting sued for copyright infringement is basically nil...

 

[stavrosmangaros]

Plus, it's a porn game produced by Russians. The likelihood of you getting sued for copyright infringement is basically nil...

i meant it as in he would be making the comic for them, get paid and they would upload it on their patreon page

 

[Sergiv2001]

i meant it as in he would be making the comic for them, get paid and they would upload it on their patreon page

You don`t understand. Is they are from Russia they have some troubles with patreon money service.

 

[ZOObastik]

creating alternate scenarios with things that already happened in the game but with a different ending, which is what you have pretty much drawn in your fan art anyways.

I could help with a very raw script and present various ideas to you if you needed any help, but i'm afraid i wouldn't have the time to help more than that.

Just believe me, I've already got like a dozen of alternative scenes scripted on google docs (partially illustrated even), waiting to be turned into episodes of the game, and even more ideas, that are just in my head, waiting to be pined down into texts =)

although, I definitely don't mind to hear some new ideas, which might send my own imagination into an inspired boost of creativity (like that one with pirate)

What I REALLY need now - is a decent drawing teammate, who can color my drawings instead of me, cause, to be honest, that part of drawing just devastates me mentally. It's easier for me to draw half a hundred of sketches and lineart instead of one full color pic

 

[ZOObastik]

Plus, it's a porn game produced by Russians. The likelihood of you getting sued for copyright infringement is basically nil...

Yeah, I was even thinking for quite some time (not so long ago) to repeat Sad Crab path.
I mean the first part, where they were making just a mod for Akabur's Hermione trainer and collected enough money on Patreon to get a full team to start their own project.
Not the part where they ended up making like 5 releases per 7 years cause they were constantly remaking each and every version from scratch, ditching previous script each time =(

But that's a slippery path, that can end up becoming another Team Borsch =(

 

[ZOObastik]

It would be cool for this game to have multiple endings

It would be cool if it will at least have an ending. Preferably before we all die of age

 

[slowpersun]

Just believe me, I've already got like a dozen of alternative scenes scripted on google docs (partially illustrated even), waiting to be turned into episodes of the game, and even more ideas, that are just in my head, waiting to be pined down into texts =)

I get that you're more the artistic type than maybe the coding type, but I'm kinda surprised you don't just crap out your own mod for the game at some point (like in-game, not that other mod that is more of a VN). But I'll admit that depending on how it's coded, that might not be very feasible...

Edit: ROFL, I missed your other response until after I wrote this, yeah, prolly wanna avoid the Sad Crab path...

What I REALLY need now - is a decent drawing teammate, who can color my drawings instead of me, cause, to be honest, that part of drawing just devastates me mentally. It's easier for me to draw half a hundred of sketches and lineart instead of one full color pic

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[stavrosmangaros]

Just believe me, I've already got like a dozen of alternative scenes scripted on google docs (partially illustrated even), waiting to be turned into episodes of the game, and even more ideas, that are just in my head, waiting to be pined down into texts =)

although, I definitely don't mind to hear some new ideas, which might send my own imagination into an inspired boost of creativity (like that one with pirate)

What I REALLY need now - is a decent drawing teammate, who can color my drawings instead of me, cause, to be honest, that part of drawing just devastates me mentally. It's easier for me to draw half a hundred of sketches and lineart instead of one full color pic

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Tbh that sounds like 90% of a plan to me, hear me out on this, why not contact them one last time, draw a few more scenes without colouring them, and tell them you're interested in working with them on a comic with what we're already discussed, and you get a fee BUT they are the ones who have to color it? They tell you all of their ideas of the projects they abandoned and you continue them. You draw it, they colour it, they release a chapter once per month to keep their patreons happy, and you get paid for your amazing art. I think everyone wins in this scenario.

I could help you to decide on a story structure model, like one of the following:

for comics tbh with the artists i'm working with i always go for the 7 point plot structure, only imagine every "point" as a seperate entity with 3 acts. If you wish to contact them tho and they do accept, i don't have the time to work more than what an editor would do with a writer, like give you advice on the structure and that's it. I won't have the time to really help tbh.

 

[lolol_999]

im tired playing this game from scratch just to watch something that isnt worth it.. is it at least animated?

 

[stavrosmangaros]

although, I definitely don't mind to hear some new ideas, which might send my own imagination into an inspired boost of creativity (like that one with pirate)

this is what i would propose, which needs way more work than what i'm about to say, let's say you pick the 7 point plot structure:




You basically need 5 alternate scenes, a starting point and an ending. A quick example, Sam finds an ancient artifact, something with a phallic shape to make it funny. Let's rip off a popular theme here for fun, for example the Avengers with Thanos, you have a golden dildo with 5 holes for emeralds. So the dildo talks to Sam, tells him he needs to go back to the past, change the outcome of 5 fateful meetings Jack had that he interfered with, and by not stopping them but instead helping the others this time, everytime he gets one gem, at the end when he completes all the gems, the dildo can grant his wish to fuck Jack. So here's the hook, and also the resolution.

For the 5 scenes you can pick 5 of whichever you want. For each of the 5 scenes we can use a simplistic model, like save the cat, that's basically a simplified 3 act structure (i can help with all of that btw):



And we pick 5 characters, for example: Boris, the old man, the inn keeper, the zombie squad and at the end we need someone more challenging, like Cupid, someone Sam really has a problem letting him fuck Jack, but he's really close to completing the quest and he needs to accept it. The example of the characters are random, just a simplistic example. And the we add twists, we add cliff hangers, we add comedy elements and surprises. The more emeralds he gets, the more abilities he can use with the dildo, that gets him some action. And for each of the 5 scenes, with alternate scenes or ideas that Team Borsch has discarded, we can adapt them into the save the cat structure to create a separate act, and then make that work with the general idea since each scene will be 1 point of the 7 point structure, so after some scenes Sam has to end up with a victory, other times with a big loss etc.

 

[stavrosmangaros]

ZOObastik my only problem is that i don't have much time to help with this more, assuming it gets accepted, because for them colouring pages might seem a burdain since they're already getting money by feeding people excuses anyways. And even if i did find the time to work on this, like clear out time on weekends etc. I still can't do it for free when Team Borsch is getting paid for it, imagine this making them 40% more money every month, you getting paid something that is far less than that, and me getting nothing. So to a certain extent i can help, but not beyond that.

 

[cxx]

im tired playing this game from scratch just to watch something that isnt worth it.. is it at least animated?

why are you starting from scratch everytime? i continue from last save always.