Johnny28

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I had a long message written up but I'd rather not post a wall of text so it mostly comes down to this:

As someone that joined in on the project 8 months ago and followed it for a long while before, when Mo's patreon reached a level where he got the ability to have a dedicated artist it greatly benefited the project and the quality of the content added. We still have the same artist that still believes in our ability to continue where it left of. Infact there's more controll over it as there's 2 people in charge of it now. If people want to support that they can and that we want to be nothing but completely open and honest about what was going on. Even telling people that that their funds had been going nowhere to support development but we were still working on it as always when we could've just hung up the towel.

I'm happy with people judging the situation for themselves with the public facts we've provided, how development has looked like previously for the ones that hasn't been closely invested and that it's exactly the same as before.

Please don't spread missinformation around as it helps no one, we'd rather be able to focus on the game right now instead of feeling obliged to bring people to the same page. We're not interested in strumming up any drama about a shitty situation, we just want to continue make stuff for a game people enjoy.


TL;DR
Development and patreon support hasn't changed from what it was like 5 months before Mo went MIA. Artist is still onboard to utilize the support from the newly established Patreon for comissions to the storyline like before. Infact there's more control over it as there's 2 people in charge of it now.

There was also just one person saying these things but as it has filled the last few pages of this thread I felt I had to adress it.
 

Rubbishcoder

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You are charging people 5 bucks to buy into a "lootbox" with the possibility of getting what they want and the high likely hood of getting something they don't.

Any winning costume getting 6 votes could have been guaranteed anyway by your Patrons clubbing and using the $30 tier (which is conveniently "sold out") anything that gets 7 votes is literally giving you money for nothing, it is costing your fans more than it should. And that's just the winning costumes, if 1 gets 12 votes and another 6, your fans get 1 costume when they've paid for 3.

I'll admit i wasn't paying attention to what Mo was up to, if he was doing the same. I thought he had just had a commission section (money for guaranteed content, not random chance) and tips for people who wanted to donate for anything or nothing. Now i see you've been taking money from people for no return (they've gambled and lost on your "polls") and i don't like that. Silver is using content that i created without my permission, i didn't particularity care thinking it was just an innocent fan project. Now I've seen that it's a "gatcha" and am undecided if i should contact patreon and see what they have say about it, even if they just temporarily shut you down while it's removed.
 
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DrFog

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I'm still in this negative mindset. They still justify taking money for art. Why would they ever add free outfits when they can get dollars per idea? And it wont just be 5 dollars, it'll be hundreds per rigged poll. "Popular idea A vs Popular idea B" with A receiving most votes but somehow missing out so next time its "A vs C" then "D", "E".... so the person who requested it gets fed up paying $20 and just pays $30 for it to get done. $50 dollars spent on a costume that may have been free if asked here or on 4chan. They and their defenders have rushed to say "people can still add art" but i highly doubt they'd accept someone doing all of their poll options for free or maybe they would, people have given them cash who cares where the art come from.

You yourself have just given them $170 dollars+ of free art at 5 bucks a pic. And you did it for free in a few hours.
You are charging people 5 bucks to buy into a "lootbox" with the possibility of getting what they want and the high likely hood of getting something they don't.

Any winning costume getting 6 votes could have been guaranteed anyway by your Patrons clubbing and using the $30 tier (which is conveniently "sold out") anything that gets 7 votes is literally giving you money for nothing, it is costing your fans more than it should. And that's just the winning costumes, if 1 gets 12 votes and another 6, your fans get 1 costume when they've paid for 3.

I'll admit i wasn't paying attention to what Mo was up to, if he was doing the same. I thought he had just had a commission section (money for guaranteed content, not random chance) and tips for people who wanted to donate for anything or nothing. Now i see you've been taking money from people for no return (they've gambled and lost on your "polls") and i don't like that. Silver is using content that i created without my permission, i didn't particularity care thinking it was just an innocent fan project. Now I've seen that it's a "gatcha" and am undecided if i should contact patreon and see what they have say about it, even if they just temporarily shut you down while it's removed.
Everything you're saying is just completely wrong. First of all, these guys are working on the game while still having to juggle their daily lives and jobs, so I really don't see any problem with them making enough money on Patreon to commission art with. Second, they are not fucking charging people for art, that is just objectively wrong. It costs $1 to be able to submit a suggestion on their Discord, and it costs nothing at all to be able to vote on it. The $30 tier is completely separate and is something for 1 or 2 people that want to have art commissioned every month. Everyone playing will still get access to all of this content without having to pay anything. I'm sure some people just payed $1 to be able to submit suggestions, but I'm pretty god damn sure that most of the Patrons, including myself, are offering up money to A. support the devs making one of our favorite games/mods, and B. to hit the goal that will ensure we get content on a monthly basis. They have already stated that nothing has changed and that they are willing to add free content in if someone offers it to them. I know that you doubt that is true, but where is your proof? Why don't you go ask for some free content on 4chan and link it here to see what happens instead of complaining about something that hasn't even happened yet?
 

Johnny28

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We're making extra efforts in the upcoming update to make sure that people that have contributed are listed in the game on a credits section on the main Menu, including people that helps us with testing if they'd like. It used to be listed on the pastebin we don't have access to but it's not up to date and we wanted a more permanent place to thank people that has helped bring the project to where it is right now. It will be included in the next update and be added on the our current working branch (cardgame) soon as we're optimizing images on another branch that includes it.

Unfortunately as not everyone has been around since the start we've only been able to include people on the list to the best of our ability. I took all the info I could find on Mo's pastebin but I could try asking around from some people that might've been more involved earlier on but it might be difficult to contact most of them.
 

anubis1970

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I've said this on another thread but it seems to be needed here too. Patreon doesn't let people sell anything. It's set up so that people can become patrons of artists and content creators that they like.

From the Oxford English Dictionary.

patron


noun

  • 1 A person who gives financial or other support to a person, organization, or cause.
The crucial word in the definition is gives. Any money received by a dev on Patreon is a gift, with no legal, moral or ethical strings attached other than the ones the dev defines themselves by promising certain bonuses based on donation level.

So if the Silver Team wishes to offer the incentive of giving outfit suggestions it's their right to do so. Just as it's the right of those who wish to donate money to help them develop their mod to do so.

If you don't like it I humbly suggest that you shut up and move on.
 

Rubbishcoder

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It costs $1 to be able to submit a suggestion on their Discord, and it costs nothing at all to be able to vote on it.
Then they are falsely advertising that on Patreon.

Seeing as you say it only costs a dollar to vote (which is the minimum for even joining their patreon) then i'll leave it be, It costs nothing extra to vote, only to join in the first place, so they aren't keeping potential content behind additional paywalls (other than commissions which as i earlier stated is fine because it a guaranteed return, there is no random chance to it.)

I thought they were fleecing their fans at $5 a pop to vote on things they had no intention of making but anyone who joins for $1 gets an equal say and it's pure luck as to what gets made (still slightly iffy). So i'm sorry for my mistake.
 
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Johnny28

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It's not exactly how it works at the moment but maybe it should be. I'm discussing things with the others and we'll also talk with the current patreons about it. We do have a channel specifically dedicated for patreon discussion as we want to do things right and fair to everyone.

We were in a bit of a rush setting things up as we wanted to make sure people that didn't want to have their support go somewhere where it wasn't being used towards the project so apologies for any oversight in wording and so on. We'll discuss this further internally and with Patreons to see where people stand on it and if making any changes this month is something we can do. In any case we'll make sure that the wording is more clear within the next couple of days as we come to a consensus with Patreons and team.
 

Fake Rabi ~

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New updates seems good but it will be better if new content can be added to cho and astoria....
 

Congressman Weiner

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Game is crashing at a certain point. I have not downloaded the new extras pack yet.

This is going back for a lap dance with Luna after already having sex with her. She invites Hermione up, and I get to this screen:
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and then the next screen I get is this and I can't go any further:

error.PNG
Thanks! Really enjoying the game.
 
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KomischerKauz

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the best in the game are the situations in the Blowjob parts with "knock-knock-knock" on the Door.
More Varations of them and sexoptions with the other girls, and a appearance with the house-elf as invisible pranker or "SurpriseFucker" in some scenes, WT will the best Porngame ever.
 
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DrFog

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Then they are falsely advertising that on Patreon.

Seeing as you say it only costs a dollar to vote (which is the minimum for even joining their patreon) then i'll leave it be, It costs nothing extra to vote, only to join in the first place, so they aren't keeping potential content behind additional paywalls (other than commissions which as i earlier stated is fine because it a guaranteed return, there is no random chance to it.)

I thought they were fleecing their fans at $5 a pop to vote on things they had no intention of making but anyone who joins for $1 gets an equal say and it's pure luck as to what gets made (still slightly iffy). So i'm sorry for my mistake.
@MadMerlin posted this on Discord a little while ago:


"Hello @Everyone, we'd like to get some quick for our monthly outfit polls.

As current Patreons may know, the way we have things set up at the moment is that you get to make an outfit suggestion as part of the 1$ support, and 5$ gets to vote on the submissions.

We've realized that this may have been a bit backwards and doesn't really make sure that great clothing suggestions are made and can be voted for by the majority of our supporters. Right now as it is, 5$ Patreons can for example send in a suggestion (as they have previous reward from 1$ one) and then vote, so why would they vote on anything but their own suggestion?

This was an oversight on our part and and we'd like to swap these two ones around basically. This way we'd be able to have the best suggestions voted for by the large majority of the community that support the project. So basically 1$ Patreons and up would be able to vote instead which would make sure that one vote wouldn't sway the scales as much as with the current set up as well.

The outfit suggestions that has been made so far on Discord will go through to the vote anyway but the change would take effect properly next month. We'd just like to make it sooner rather than later so any new people that join when the next update comes out will be on the same page."
 

Wyrdo

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I cannot access the Silver Discord, has any devs or coders put the "luna_sex" CG scenes I animated (page 152 in this thread) into game yet!?!?

If not, I will make a patch.
I would like to know please, so that I don't do work on something which already exists.
 

h4xoor

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any save WT_Silver_1.34b
but it locked hermione to personal favors only, so the ending will be that specific, idk whats left to do, but i didnt reached any "this is the end for this version" so far. Only for Astoria and Susan if i remember correctly. Snap relationship maxed aswell.
 
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