- Thread starter kuramaa
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Pretty sure it is reportable to advertise content being paywalled, only to then randomly remove it without any prior warning.
As if it wasn't bad enough to falsely advertise patreon tier rewards, which is against the ToS of Patreon. And to also go out of your way to block random pledgers just because you have one pledger leaking a code, is honestly dumb if not against the ToS yet again.
Also, doesn't the following go directly against the "I'm removing all patreon exclusive content"? If it was just time limited, it would've been fine, but if you're planning to re-add patreon limited content, after already advertising it only to remove it, only to make it time-limited this time around, dunno what to tell you honestly.
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The Dev still has no clue how to identify buildings so the many nondescript buildings on the maps can be differentiated without wasting players time. As for the hospital job, says something vague about clothes, but no actual info on what to do.
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i have not removed the content. the content is still there...... all you have to do is click the crystal outside the house to unlock what used to be exclusive.......
also if you haven't noticed, i am going to give tiers who donate me something back.... that's why i am doing limited timed content... and i am also planning to do a unique passcode for everyone thing which will allow me to track down the one who leaked the code instead of just banning innocents....... i am making everything stricter because i'll be honest making everything free doesn't get me any donations
i haven't been responsive and haven't taken this situation well and understand why some people are mad at me..... but i promise i will do my best and not go on rants from now on.....
1. Can please expand more on the MC not choosing shouta route? What I'm thinking is this route is dominatrix/ntr route. And neita the neighbor isn't hiding sex anymore.
What I mean by dominatrix is not full on BDSM I don't want to lose female MC cuteness. What I'm suggesting is a femdom lite. Like a little or lite humiliation NTR.
2. How many mini games are there? Below 0.19V According to chamgelog it is 5 but I only count 4. Train, teacher, neita and pendrive. This is excluding the 0.20 above. I just can't find the other one.
What I mean by dominatrix is not full on BDSM I don't want to lose female MC cuteness. What I'm suggesting is a femdom lite. Like a little or lite humiliation NTR.
2. How many mini games are there? Below 0.19V According to chamgelog it is 5 but I only count 4. Train, teacher, neita and pendrive. This is excluding the 0.20 above. I just can't find the other one.
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But... You have removed the content from being exclusive to patreon supporters.
Advertising patreon tiers with specific perks, then taking said perks away and giving them to everyone, making the tiers so that they no longer advertise the specific perks, only to then go and admit going back on your word to yet again give specific, other perks to those with the aforementioned tiers in the future, is literally what you've done and admitted to.
Either stick with patreon tiers having access to exclusive content, or timed exclusive content.
Or go with everyone having access to everything.
As randomly changing the tiers and rewards provided suddenly without any prior warning (the only real warning I can see is a post of yours stating, that you're looking to add timed exclusive content in the future), is afaik, punishable on Patreon.
If you want to go and get money with each purchase, publish it as a paid game on itch or steam, with people being allowed to support you through Patreon.
Patreon is for receiving support from fans, and for teams or individuals to gain money on the side/funding, rather than it being a job site (even though some patreon creators do manage to get enough monthly support to sustain themselves without having a regular job).
Instead of thinking "how do I get more people to pay/what do I add so that I can paywall it" think about what the potential players would want to be added or ironed out, and work on it. Don't force "support" if you can gain it naturally with the slightest of efforts.
And yeah, overreacting to any sort of critique or going on rants isn't really a good idea, as seen with what happened to the borderline scam actions of the "Isekai Awakening" game. (dude was going as far as to take the thread and game hostage over him having low review scores on the game thread)
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Well the reason you don't see any warning is because i have deleted the posts where i asked the patrons to not support me for a while. If anything, i told people to not spend their money if they are not getting the content they deserve.... you can ask my patrons if you wish about the posts....... the reason why i am even continuing to make the game at this point is because i don't want to regret leaving it incomplete. I have already announced most of my patrons that you should wait for updates when i will add more content and a lot of them agreed with me and unsub from the tier... if anything the people who still are subbed to the tier are the once who have told me that they wish to donate more to the content and so they will continue to support my work even when the game has incomplete content
Even though money is important, i am not trying to scam people here..... also if i want to develop as a creator, i need to change. Saying that i shouldn't try to change the system is pretty dumb arguement if you ask me. All this issues with me happened is because i didn't think through my decisions before, but now i have a good idea about what i need to do rn....
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This is why I unsubbed from the Patreon
Patreon has a report feature... just saying
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well i don't like banning people.... it's just that i had no choice........
you are the reason those guys got banned in the first place anyway...
but don't worry..... i have ensured that this problem will never happen again........
as if the code is leaked from the next update, i would know whose account did it.
- Sep 7, 2024
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Didn't you say that you would stop overreacting?
Even if the person you replied to is someone you're truly glad to see being gone, that doesn't really mean that you need to post about how good it was that it happened, especially if you're the dev of the game.
You did have a choice, you didn't need to ban/block random people.
Quite effectively, instead of fully removing the exclusivity from the codes, you could've just released patreon-locked versions of the game with the exclusive content included (which would have been easier to police the leaking of), or made the exclusive content into downloadable patreon patches instead of a code (which would have yet again been easier to police the leaking of.
Or just could have not banned random people in general, as that's not what you do even if one dude does manage to leak a code.
A simple "Hey guys, due to a random guy leaking my patreon codes, I'm pausing development for a bit to focus on a way to make it so that you guys don't get cheated out from the content you paid for, by others having it for free.", with you pausing your monthly subscriptions, would have been enough to give you time to work on the implementation, and wouldn't outright change your entire tier system... twice... if you truly go with re-adding exclusive content.
So, by those words... You deleted the messages that were warning people of how you'd be changing the tiers, and how they shouldn't be supporting you for a while, while they don't get the content they deserve/paid for, and then made sure to completely change the info of the tiers.
Do you not see any problem with that?
There's a difference between changing the system vs directly going against your words on the game page, Patreon and Patreon's tiers. You can change how the exclusive content is provided, however going out of your way to make previously-exclusive content now fully public, every content being public on every tier, only to then go and go back on that by making more exclusive content, is not good.
Also, there's a reason as to why most of the time, the only "exclusive" content is for unlocking the gallery early without having to complete the current content, providing fan/patreon scenes (like if your patreon subscribers want an extra scene with Character X and Character Y, that you allowed due to having extra time for working on the game after already finishing the content you wanted for the patch, which would make no sense in the story/context, and are therefore hidden in a secret area), or for having access to debug options/cheats.
Unlocking the gallery early, having access to scenes that don't fit the game, and having access to cheats isn't categorized as paywalled content. Hence why if you change it in the future so that instead of tier X and Y having access to the exclusive content and tier Free not, only tier X can have access to the unfitting scenes, cheats, early gallery, or everyone has access to it, people won't get angry, and you won't get in trouble with your fans or the ToS for quite literally taking away advertised content/making exclusive content available to everyone. Same way if you'd then go and reenable access to tier Y, so that both tier X and tier Y had access but not tier Free, you wouldn't get in trouble with your fans or the ToS.
And it's quite easy to make it so that once the game is finished, you can provide a free way/alternative to obtaining the exclusive codes without any real repercussions (like by adding an aforementioned on-clear code for the gallery or cheats, or by providing a downloadable patch on your patreon or as a dlc/additional purchase).
People change, however that doesn't excuse fucking over your subscribers that paid for their tiers based on what they wanted to support you with, and what they wanted in return for the support given to you.
And no, I am not a patreon of yours, as even if I had the money to support anyone, I wouldn't use it to support someone who intentionally goes back on their word just for the sake of money.
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1. I am not overreacting.
2. I am making it harder for myself by releasing patreon locked version of my content as it becomes more difficult to monitor the leaks, not easier. Also i would rather make it easier for the patron to unlock it rather than download another update again. Also i didn't only ban random people, i banned people who were leaking my content on other sites and forums. Sure some of them were misfires, but most of them were good decision. I have mentioned that before.
3. I am making new system to make up for it. As i mentioned on my patreon before, i don't get to update game as i am not a free person. That's also the reason why i told people to unsub me. I deleted those messages once i found a way to fix this issue. Which will be fixed by next update.
4. I don't care. My game my way. Don't like it, unsub from my patron.
5. I am not reading all that shit.
6. Damn you must have a lot of time on your hands, well i don't care that if you are patron or not. I have already critisize myself and admitted my mistakes. You ranting ain't gonna make any difference.