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Jnx

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everything is slowly fizzing out. i suspect it will be abandoned sooner than later. all the criticism is falling on deaf ears, it is pretty much unanimously agreed that the whole cyborg/magic mash up doesn't work but the dev keeps going with it. combine all that with the fact the updates are getting shorter each time, i think it is rather obvious that the dev is not very keen to work on this.
That's the thing, I sincerely disagree that the tech/magic thing can't work. It's just not being done well. When I reviewed it 1+ year ago, I was frustrated because they advertised what they did and the game was 100% going to a shitty school called AWKWARTS. Where the tech fit in? Nobody knew. Now it's here and it has nothing to do with the intro of the story. So once again the writing is the issue. The mid renders and poor sandbox could all be overlooked if they knew what they were writing. But it's clear no one that has anything to do with it knows what's going on.
 

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That's the thing, I sincerely disagree that the tech/magic thing can't work. It's just not being done well. When I reviewed it 1+ year ago, I was frustrated because they advertised what they did and the game was 100% going to a shitty school called AWKWARTS. Where the tech fit in? Nobody knew. Now it's here and it has nothing to do with the intro of the story. So once again the writing is the issue. The mid renders and poor sandbox could all be overlooked if they knew what they were writing. But it's clear no one that has anything to do with it knows what's going on.
Well, i agree with you, the problem is not the sf part, the problem is the multi protagonist... If the MC after meet demon, elf, vampire, magic world... meet alien, space ship, robots, tech world and the plot sf start here, i think people would had accept it.... i don t like the cyborg (second mc) too.

The dev visit regulary here, and i think see this game score down, all the review and all the feedback said " it s shit now" have an influence on the update. he should more listen the review, and not give up, there is always a way.

My advise Mr dev, delet the muti protag and rework the start of the sf part... with an alien with a tech disguise of the mc, who drag him in sf world with a good reason. i don t know, like the mother of the mc come from another planet for example...
 
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yup88888

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the problem is not the tech and magic mix. It is how was written.
people was full in the magic part and suddenly out of the blue changed the "plot" to the tech one that was slowly and unmoving forward. A lot of people was out of the immersion.
If it was swapping from one to the other plot from the start people could be aware and at the first cyborg updates couldn't be so boring because you were swapping from tech to magic.

Let's hope that the dev could drive the situation, because the idea is good
 

godscoper

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pretty sure sooner or later MC Cyborg and Human MC will be double-teaming Li.
once the cyborg was introduced the plot/ story got ruined. to many updates with the cyborg arc wasn't even good.
cyborg pervs/ watches human MC Li doing shit has a bigger dick than MC.

feels later on cyborg will be doing shit with future girls while MC is off doing shit but it's okay because still, MC is human and can see what cyborg is doing.

Is the cyborg going to have more control of Human MC in the future?
 
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e6mill

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pretty sure sooner or later MC Cyborg and Human MC will be double-teaming Li.
IDK where you're getting that idea from, the place the cyborg is from/going hasn't been visited by humans yet according to one of the early newscasts. There are probs some humans there I'm guessing (or he won't have anyone to fuck), but it's literally another planet.
 

Dreezky

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I've just finished it (I'd never played it before). It's really quite good, but I didn't really understand the addition of the cyborg/clone. It's not especially bad, but it gives the impression of playing two VNs at the same time.
I found it interesting that there were several kinks with the possibility of hiding them (I hope the dev never adds NTR or that sort of thing, even though it would be possible to hide the scenes).

I'll keep an eye on this Vn (y)
 

HentaiKami

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I've just finished it (I'd never played it before). It's really quite good, but I didn't really understand the addition of the cyborg/clone. It's not especially bad, but it gives the impression of playing two VNs at the same time.
I found it interesting that there were several kinks with the possibility of hiding them (I hope the dev never adds NTR or that sort of thing, even though it would be possible to hide the scenes).

I'll keep an eye on this Vn (y)
Cyborg is part of the scifi side of the plot, that was foreshadowed at the beginning of the game. Perhaps not the best implementation of the idea, but personally i don't mind the scifi aspect and the cyborg too much.
 
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Quetzzz

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out of the blue changed the "plot" to the tech one that was slowly and unmoving forward. A lot of people was out of the immersion.
The thing that made me tune out, was reliving the same events through the cyborg's eyes. The constant thoughts of "I've already seen this, the writer provided context for us to know what the cyborg went through, this exposition isn't necessary" just made me lose interest.

If it was swapping from one to the other plot from the start people could be aware and at the first cyborg updates couldn't be so boring because you were swapping from tech to magic.
This would've been a great way to go about it. Have us see what happens with the android without ever showing his body/face in between the MC doing the magic stuff. Then pay this mystery off with the cyborg's face reveal.
Having this chronological also means that choices can't retroactively be invalidated. For instance, the cyborg says he had sex with the doctor, but the player can actually choose not to have sex with her.

Another thing I'm worried about it the shared consciousness. This is something that just can't be conveyed to players. The MC would be experiencing everything android-MC does in real-time, but we're only focussing on one of them at once. The only option here is to play the entire game in split-screen, but that doesn't sound fun, and a logistical nightmare.
 

tortorus

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If the setting is right the mc could do both of the story, i mean time is relative, if the alien planet is way bigger than earth, time go slower on alien planet than earth, 1 day could be a week or more.... i really don t think the second mc is necessary.
 

Quetzzz

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If the setting is right the mc could do both of the story, i mean time is relative, if the alien planet is way bigger than earth, time go slower on alien planet than earth, 1 day could be a week or more.... i really don t think the second mc is necessary.
Time wouldn't go slower just because a planet takes longer to rotate. In reality, if a planet is bigger than earth, then its gravity would be higher, causing physical issues for him. While this higher gravity would cause some relative gravitational time dilation, its effect wouldn't be as severe as 1:7... More like 1:1.0000001.
 

tortorus

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Time wouldn't go slower just because a planet takes longer to rotate. In reality, if a planet is bigger than earth, then its gravity would be higher, causing physical issues for him. While this higher gravity would cause some relative gravitational time dilation, its effect wouldn't be as severe as 1:7... More like 1:1.0000001.
What are you taking about...? the rotate have no insidence on time... unless you talking about the rotate around the sun.
The gravity (slow time)/speed (accelerate time), but you have far underestimated the gravitational time compression (look gps satelite very few G less (20000 km of earth) and a speed of 3km/s, and 0.04 sec less than on earth), you must take speed of the planet into consideration too, for example earth speed 30 km/s 108000 km/h (it s fast because close to the sun which is a little star) , 12000 km diameter for 5,972 × 10^21 tons (earth is not really a dense planet, rock planet with iron at core ) and we have 1g of gravity. with less speed and more mass with the same diameter (and maybe other factor if the planet orbit around a gas giant for example...) the time compression could be very strong 1/7 - 1/15 - 1/25 easily. But it s a little too complex to explain it in a porn game forum... you get the idea of what i mean (cosmology is one of my hobby).

But for he story of the game too much will be not good...
And for he physical aspect exoskeleton /anti gravity suit/medecine who boost power and skeleton density for a time (this one could be fun like john carter movie), it s a sf world...
 
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Quetzzz

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What are you taking about...? the rotate have no insidence on time... unless you talking about the rotate around the sun.
A planet's rotational speed / spin does have an effect on its gravity due to centrifugal force. A planet with a slightly higher mass, that also spins faster, could still exert an effective 1G on its surface because the centrifugal force pushes away from the center of gravity.

What you have to consider is that the MC still has to be able to survive on this planet. Its mass and spin would need to combine to be around 1G (or less). So you can have a planet with more mass and a higher rotation and still have an effective 1G. Though, at a certain point, the planet would have to rotate so quickly to make up for its higher mass that days would seem very short.
If you're proposing a planet that's larger and less dense per m³, that might work for survival, but its gravitational pull would still be 1G, and the relative passage of time would be unaffected.

You could have this planet rotate around a more massive star, but the result would still have to be a planet with a pull of around 1G (or less). Having a planet rotate too quickly around its star comes with its own set of problems as well.

The moon is a great example. Due to the way it moves relative to earth, clocks would be slower. But because of its lower gravity, clocks also run faster. In the end, a clock on the moon would run 54µs slower than on earth.

But for he story of the game too much will be not good...
On that we agree!

If relative time dilation is the goal, I'd instead suggest having the planet's star system a fraction of a light-year away from the event horizon of a black hole. Check out star S2 for some cool inspiration.
 

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A planet's rotational speed / spin does have an effect on its gravity due to centrifugal force. A planet with a slightly higher mass, that also spins faster, could still exert an effective 1G on its surface because the centrifugal force pushes away from the center of gravity.

What you have to consider is that the MC still has to be able to survive on this planet. Its mass and spin would need to combine to be around 1G (or less). So you can have a planet with more mass and a higher rotation and still have an effective 1G. Though, at a certain point, the planet would have to rotate so quickly to make up for its higher mass that days would seem very short.
If you're proposing a planet that's larger and less dense per m³, that might work for survival, but its gravitational pull would still be 1G, and the relative passage of time would be unaffected.

You could have this planet rotate around a more massive star, but the result would still have to be a planet with a pull of around 1G (or less). Having a planet rotate too quickly around its star comes with its own set of problems as well.

The moon is a great example. Due to the way it moves relative to earth, clocks would be slower. But because of its lower gravity, clocks also run faster. In the end, a clock on the moon would run 54µs slower than on earth.


On that we agree!

If relative time dilation is the goal, I'd instead suggest having the planet's star system a fraction of a light-year away from the event horizon of a black hole. Check out star S2 for some cool inspiration.
I think we're going off topic, so this will be my last post on it.

i was talking about time not the feeling of gavity... But you are wrong again, the spin on itself don t influene gavity first because it s too low to have an effect and second if enought, it s only change perception of it and not the gavity force itself which set time compression (those two force don t influence themself, only compensate their effect. Centrifugal force have not influence on time, speed have an effect on time not the force which propels...) The proof of this is the more you go near the core of earth the more gravity go strong (and time go slow) with the same spin, even if the centrifugal force increase... this effect had been measure (go look for it if you want...). well like i said " it s a little too complex to explain it in a porn game forum... " .

this is off topic, i just talk about it to say there is no need for a second mc, all the story could be live by the first mc without big time gap on earth...
 
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JakeKayden

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Can you not play mini games if you play it in android because i cannot touch anything when it comes to minigames
 
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Can you not play mini games if you play it in android because i cannot touch anything when it comes to minigames
A must for touch screen is having the settings for minigame controls and navigation arrows from hover to always.
But I could not even figure out to beat the bubble game on pc. So just skip the minigames.
 

Quetzzz

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A must for touch screen is having the settings for minigame controls and navigation arrows from hover to always.
But I could not even figure out to beat the bubble game on pc. So just skip the minigames.
This script makes the repeller mini-game a bit easier, allowing you to repel an orb as soon it touches the barrier.
Not sure if it's worth it, I don't remember if playing the minigames gives extra unlocks or unique dialogue.
 
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