Ren'Py Worlds of Wonders [v0.2.22] [It's Danny]

[Lordfugi]

Englisch
Worlds of Wonders update v0.2.23 was announced on Patreon. It includes new content such as additional story scenes, reworked renders, and bug fixes. Improvements have also been made to navigation features and the user interface. More details on exact changes or additions can be found on the official .

German
Das Update v0.2.23 von Worlds of Wonders wurde auf Patreon angekündigt. Es beinhaltet neue Inhalte wie zusätzliche Story-Szenen, überarbeitete Render und Fehlerbehebungen. Außerdem wurden Verbesserungen an den Navigationsfunktionen und der Benutzeroberfläche vorgenommen. Weitere Details zu genauen Änderungen oder Ergänzungen finden sich auf der offiziellen .

 

[Warphorror]

The cyborg and the main character in Worlds of Wonders are one. Their bodies and experiences are so connected that they are no longer separate beings. This connection is based on a genetic and technological fusion, not electronics or machines. They share senses, thoughts and sensations through a deep symbiosis that allows them to experience everything together. The cyborg is not seen as a separate machine, but as a part of the main character.

The player's criticism is based on a misunderstanding of the basic mechanics of Worlds of Wonders. The player sees the connection between the main character and the cyborg as "sharing" and confuses this with classic NTR themes, ignoring that the two characters are not separate entities. The fusion is based on a biological-technological symbiosis, where the cyborg does not intervene in the relationship as a stranger, but is integrated - it is part of the main character.

The criticism of the sci-fi and magic combination shows that the player has a limited perspective on the potential of such genre mixtures. The fusion of technology and biology is a deeper, inner connection that should not be misunderstood as superficial "sharing"

Spoiler: German

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Small problems with that point of views : the organic and the cyborg comes from differents universes and have differents pasts, desires, persepectives and objectives. The synchronisation doesn't retroactively change objectives factuals past events. Gaining memories of somebody doesn't make you the actor of those memories. If you are given the memory pov of a murder, are you responisble for the murder, should you go in jail for it? I guess not. Then why should action done by a separate body whose creation is not of your own doing and where the synchronisation was forced upon you be seen differently? For my part the creator didn't manage to convey a way where the mc original identity isn't lost in the story and thus I felt disconnected and annoyed by the cyborg. I don't like multiple protagonist stories, that removes immersion in one's avatar.

Concerning the mix of sci-fi/fantasy critics : there is no such thing in this story, the technological universe is separated of the magical one, no mix and technology anywhere to be seen. Every magic components of the story is kept separated from the science part, the cyborg goes to space where there is no wizard and the magic academy has a field that perturbs tech. So no it's not t being narrow minded it's the creator having done a bad job of combining two story by making them exist side by side. I'm personnaly a big fan of magitech or sci-fi with mystical power (star wars and the Dune books serie are a good example) but this is not that.

 

[HentaiKami]

Concerning the mix of sci-fi/fantasy critics : there is no such thing in this story, the technological universe is separated of the magical one, no mix and technology anywhere to be seen. Every magic components of the story is kept separated from the science part, the cyborg goes to space where there is no wizard and the magic academy has a field that perturbs tech. So no it's not t being narrow minded it's the creator having done a bad job of combining two story by making them exist side by side. I'm personnaly a big fan of magitech or sci-fi with mystical power (star wars and the Dune books serie are a good example) but this is not that.

Not different universes but occupying different parts of the same. At the start of the game we see a magic user that is planning on some kind of strike against technology, since he feels it has gone too far, but that's most likely foreshadowing of even later plot points. Also it's pretty clear that MC is part of both magic and tech. Sure the writing could be improved on this part but it is there in the story. Big reason why we haven't seen the two mix so far too much is, as is explained in the game, that magic and supernatural is trying to hide its existence, like in so many urban fantasy settings.

 

[Lordfugi]

Spoiler: Englisch : base_scripts.rpa

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Based on the script and its logic

Analysis of the fusion between cyborg and main character:

Spoiler: 1.Description in the script

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Spoiler: 2.Deviation from the concept of complete unity

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Spoiler: 3.Technological basis instead of purely biological fusion

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Spoiler: Conclusion

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Apologies and final analysis

I would like to apologize and clarify that I have looked into the script in depth. The analysis was clearly done by ChatGPT and myself and is based on the script itself. ChatGPT analyzed over 18,000 lines of text to find out exactly what the cyborg is all about.

 

[linkinn]

He can write it perfectly and as logically as possible. Still, for most of us who’ve been playing since the beginning, there’s only one MC (and no, I am not talking about Vegito MC, I am talking about the first and "real" MC), and that’s not going to change.

 

[Lordfugi]

I don't understand why people try to interpret old updates when a game is not yet developed, but is only in the early stages of development. At this stage, you can't even talk about a fixed story. The story is set by the developer, not the players.

No matter how old a game is or how new it appears now, the current story is what counts, not the past. I sometimes don't understand why players make everything more complicated than it already is. If they like the old version of the game better, let them download it and play it.

If they like the old story so much and are attached to it like a piece of toilet paper , then let them use it. I went through the script and there is the story I used and implemented here so everyone can see what is in the script. That was exactly the developer's goal and I explained it accordingly.

 

[Lordfugi]

I also translated this game into German


Außerdem habe ich dieses Spiel gleich auf Deutsch übersetzt

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

I don't understand why people try to interpret old updates when a game is not yet developed, but is only in the early stages of development. At this stage, you can't even talk about a fixed story. The story is set by the developer, not the players.

No matter how old a game is or how new it appears now, the current story is what counts, not the past. I sometimes don't understand why players make everything more complicated than it already is. If they like the old version of the game better, let them download it and play it.

If they like the old story so much and are attached to it like a piece of toilet paper , then let them use it. I went through the script and there is the story I used and implemented here so everyone can see what is in the script. That was exactly the developer's goal and I explained it accordingly.

dude, I'll put it simple: you just cant win with these guys. not with logic anyway lol

 

[linkinn]

dude, I'll put it simple: you just cant win with these guys. not with logic anyway lol

My logic is somewhat simple, even you can understand:

int x = MC + MC2;

devTrying = x - 1;
devFailing = x;

if (devFailing > 1) {
    bool WorthPlaying = false;

    if (yearsInDevelopment > 3) {
    bool AreYouSureThatsCorrectThatsVeryDumb = true;
    }
}

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

My logic is somewhat simple, even you can understand:

int x = MC + MC2;

devTrying = x - 1;
devFailing = x;

if (devFailing > 1) {
    bool WorthPlaying = false;

    if (yearsInDevelopment > 3) {
    bool AreYouSureThatsCorrectThatsVeryDumb = true;
    }
}

yeah, important clarification about your logic. though thats

He can write it perfectly and as logically as possible. Still, for most of us who’ve been playing since the beginning

not what I would call logical approach. more like usual reeeee and entitlement.

 

[linkinn]

not what I would call logical approach. more like usual reeeee and entitlement.

It is logical to me. Regardless of how perfectly he writes, the results will always remain the same from my perspective.

As for "entitlement" that implies demanding something, which I’ve never done. But feel free to use the trendy buzzwords brain rot kids throw around these days, without knowing what they mean.

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

It is logical to me. Regardless of how perfectly he writes, the results will always remain the same from my perspective.

As for "entitlement" that implies demanding something, which I’ve never done. But feel free to use the trendy buzzwords brain rot kids throw around these days, without knowing what they mean.

You dont demand anything? what are you doing here then? cyborg story was implied years ago, you had yearsoftimetomoveon>3, yet you are still here reeing about it because "however logical the story might be, from my perspective it has no logic". sounds like you just want things done your way and your way only.

 

[linkinn]

You dont demand anything? what are you doing here then?

Talking in a forum is demanding? Your sensitive ass is the only one that cares what anyone discusses here. The dev isn't even here, for a long time.

cyborg story was implied years ago, you had yearsoftimetomoveon>3, yet you are still here reeing about it because "however logical the story might be, from my perspective it has no logic"

Being implied doesn't mean anyone expected what we got. And yeah, the story can make as much logic as it wants, I already told you but the brain rot is deep and it's hard to understand. It doesn't matter to me, he'll never succeed in writing something that doesn't look like 2 MCs to me, not after 3 years with one MC.

sounds like you just want things done your way and your way only.

I don't want anything, you guys can keep it. The only reason this isn't in the ignore yet is to laugh from time to time.

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

Talking in a forum is demanding? Your sensitive ass is the only one that cares what anyone discusses here. The dev isn't even here, for a long time.



Being implied doesn't mean anyone expected what we got. And yeah, the story can make as much logic as it wants, I already told you but the brain rot is deep and it's hard to understand. It doesn't matter to me, he'll never succeed in writing something that doesn't look like 2 MCs to me, not after 3 years with one MC.



I don't want anything, you guys can keep it. The only reason this isn't in the ignore yet is to laugh from time to time.

lol being called sensitive by a guy who is deeply offended by game having a second male character, what a time to be alive .
and what does being implied mean, please tell us? I thought implying something means there is a certain outcome to be expected is it not? or such concept is too complex for you?
though one thing I do agree with you, I too come here (and many other threads where guys being so insecure they are getting butthurt at first sight of any male character who is not mc) for laughs

 

[linkinn]

lol being called sensitive by a guy who is deeply offended by game having a second male character, what a time to be alive .

Disgusted, not offended. I leave the cuck fantasies for the depressed people.

and what does being implied mean, please tell us? I thought implying something means there is a certain outcome to be expected is it not?

Implied that it was going to have a Cyborg sure, not that it was going to be that poorly written. As an example, in the first version, there was a female cyborg, who stood idling in your bedroom until you talked to her as far as I remember, so to make you less confused, I expected a very passive cyborg storyline. But truthfully I didn't even remember the cyborg thing until he started pushing the content.

guys being so insecure they are getting butthurt at first sight of any male character who is not mc for laughs

You don't like scat, you get disgusted by scat, same logic.

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

don't like scat, you get disgusted by scat

and yet you eat shit (just a metaphor of course)

 

[linkinn]

and yet you eat shit (just a metaphor of course)

Do I? I guess I'll believe it when it's from someone with experience in "eating shit" ( Metaphorically speaking of course).

 

[Warphorror]

Not different universes but occupying different parts of the same. At the start of the game we see a magic user that is planning on some kind of strike against technology, since he feels it has gone too far, but that's most likely foreshadowing of even later plot points. Also it's pretty clear that MC is part of both magic and tech. Sure the writing could be improved on this part but it is there in the story. Big reason why we haven't seen the two mix so far too much is, as is explained in the game, that magic and supernatural is trying to hide its existence, like in so many urban fantasy settings.

Wasn't there a story of multiples worlds/universes?

There can be myriades of explanations why but the end results is that there is no mix/hybridation of sci-fi and fantasy in the game. That by itself is not bad or wrong but it is for all intent and purpose 2 differents plot lines with their own stakes, rules and goals. I just wanted to point out this is not a story that mix technology with magic, it's a game with a fantasy plot line/world and with a sci-fi one.
The solution from the creator for having the mc implicated in both is by duplicating the mc and having them go to differents paths. IF you put aside the question of indivudality, memories counting for action etc, you are left with what is basically reading 2 stories with the same character simultaneously rather than one after the other which is a story immersion breaker and can only detract from the quality of the stories rather than improving them. For me it is a bummer to switch from one correct storyline to another that is frankly less appealing. I think it is fair to point that out and critize it, I was attracted by the promise of magic with space elf and the way it was handle is disappointing.

I don't understand why people try to interpret old updates when a game is not yet developed, but is only in the early stages of development. At this stage, you can't even talk about a fixed story. The story is set by the developer, not the players.

No matter how old a game is or how new it appears now, the current story is what counts, not the past. I sometimes don't understand why players make everything more complicated than it already is. If they like the old version of the game better, let them download it and play it.

If they like the old story so much and are attached to it like a piece of toilet paper , then let them use it. I went through the script and there is the story I used and implemented here so everyone can see what is in the script. That was exactly the developer's goal and I explained it accordingly.

Two things :
First when you release something to the public (and even to some paying customers) you are encouraging feedback and stating that it should be somewhat stable, if part of the public find it good it's normal that they would be disappointed and critize it if you change what's good in their eyes. You have no right to complain about people liking a public previous version better, or saying that the direction taken isn't the good one according to them when you are the one that release an in progress product. If you don't want people to do that, only release the final version.
Secondly, I don't understand why you need to be dismissive and bordeline insulting in your comments.

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

Do I? I guess I'll believe it when it's from someone with experience in "eating shit" ( Metaphorically speaking of course).

well if you consider it as shit, I guess you do? how does it taste?