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ImperialD

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If there will be a patch, then now is the perfect time to add it, since Brain makes small changes throughout the first week of the game, adds a story for Fem Shauna, and all that. After the first week to create a PATCH for it will be much more problematic
i didn't mean make a patch now ... but after the game is completed
 

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Alright, so, I was writing a post here about the game after finishing it for the first time and it evolved into less of a "post" and more into "good God stop writing or else there will be nothing else on the page" type thing. So I figured I will put everything in spoiler tags to make things readable.

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That's it. Jeez. Sorry for writing so much - let me know what you think though! I'm curious to hear your thoughts.

First off welcome. So much to address in your post I am not even sure where to start. Ok well maybe start with the mini FAQ as it does cover some of the things you mentioned in your post, but it seems that you might have already read it. All girls will have an option to be romanced except for the Family of the MC and then also family member will not be in the same lewd scene ie Natalie and Harper or Veronica, Vanessa, and Mabel due to be related. You have the option to not pursue things with any of the girls. I have about 12 play throughs with different girls in each of them. There is also a guide (link to the post https://f95zone.to/threads/wvm-day-1-7-v0-7-6-braindrop.35910/post-4057894) I am working on which may help you it is a draft status and not fully completed (it's just missing 2 routes that only impact Jamie and Shauna). Not sure which identification you gave Shauna (Female or Transgender Female), but it really makes a difference in the Shauna/Penny story-lines. Penny is one of my favorites and her lewd scenes are pretty good if you make the right choices. You just need to think of her as a star struck super-fan and she is easier to understand in my opinion. Teachers and staff of WVM are off limits due to the school scandal, but at some point you will be able to have fun with them too. Hang in there days 1-7 are supposed to set up all the characters so there is a lot going on in a fast pace, it seems like things will slow down a little bit once all the characters are introduced. As for the Rachael Clients you see Anna several times but the others just once. Some of the clients may actually have an impact on the story where others may just show up until the deed is done (I think your not fertile theory is out since pregnancy will be a big part of the game in the future). I am with you on the team mates we need more time with some of them like Ayden and Skye for sure but some of them can just fuck off (looking at you Kenji). The moving thing was a little crazy too, but most of the girls had like 3 boxes of stuff and I doubt they really unpacked everything yet. I feel the new house is the one they will keep and get more settled into for the long haul. I am actually tired of hearing about the Azel, Wendy Willow no incest thing so I am not going to comment no further than I think this will change by modder only and much further down the road, but fuck there are so many other hot/sexy girls of all shapes sizes and ages to tickle everyone's fancy with just 3 off the board I think we can chill as there are currently 46 named characters at the moment. The Ryker story is very interesting to me as well I have several theory's, and I am really looking forward to how it will play out in the long run. My big hope is that Ryker will try to do something to the MC and Cedey will step in "Leave my Brubru alone your fucking asshole" as she punches him out then Azel chimes in with "Language Missy". Hey a man can dream right. Lastly there will be no NTR in this game (See the FAQ) so I don't think anyone will be exclusive either. You will get your choice of who to add and hopefully who to knock up as well (I am picky and only want Jamie or clients to get that as of now). I thing I touched base on all your points, and hopefully we see you back for further conversations in the future.
 

Alex Lem

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Erm... no. It will be exactly the same amount of work because those scenes need to be rendered and scripted from scratch, no matter when you add them. Also, where to insert a sex scene with Azel during days 1-7 without making it feel rushed or completely out of character? Adding a patch now just to satisfy those who keep claiming for that content would be counterproductive story-wise.
I'm not talking about new scenes, they should follow after the first week, in first week everything between MC and Azel should left as it is, let their romantic relationship grow with time. But the patch itself should already exist before the 0.8 version changing all that landlady stuff, or maybe he will do something different without landlady, roommate and all that. If he creates a patch now, then it will be easier for him to add new content for Azel, Willow, and Wendy after first week, at least I think so. And of course we don't know if he does it at all or not, we are just speculating now
 

ImperialD

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even tho i wouldn't mind seeing MC with Azel or Willow for that matter ... i like the game as is ... the only reason i said anything about a patch is to make others understand .. that after the game ... a patch could be made to make them happy as well ....
 
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I'm not talking about new scenes, they should follow after the first week, in first week everything between MC and Azel should left as it is, let their romantic relationship grow with time. But the patch itself should already exist before the 0.8 version changing all that landlady stuff, or maybe he will do something different without landlady, roommate and all that. If he creates a patch now, then it will be easier for him to add new content for Azel, Willow, and Wendy after first week, at least I think so. And of course we don't know if he does it at all or not, we are just speculating now
That's not how this patch will be done. I think he EvilModder's not going to change names nor relationships but just add sexual content with those girls, that's why it will come at the end as a bonus. Again, incest patches shouldn't detract from the story dev wants to tell, in which incest is just a minor detail. And WVM's story wouldn't make much sense with a landlady instead of an adoptive mother.
 

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I'm not talking about new scenes, they should follow after the first week, in first week everything between MC and Azel should left as it is, let their romantic relationship grow with time. But the patch itself should already exist before the 0.8 version changing all that landlady stuff, or maybe he will do something different without landlady, roommate and all that. If he creates a patch now, then it will be easier for him to add new content for Azel, Willow, and Wendy after first week, at least I think so. And of course we don't know if he does it at all or not, we are just speculating now
OMG no please no. That Landlady Tenant stuff is just absolute garbage, don't bring that shit here. Just wait for a modder to come in and address it when it makes sense. We don't need the Azel, Wendy, Cedey lewd stuff it can wait stop trying to rush it. I get you like the models but let's not change the game just for lewd stuff for 3 people and then make the entire story stranger than needed. The landlady moves out with you and now she is your tenant that is just dumb. Ugh why can't we just let this go already, why is it so important to people to be rushed into this game? Ugh I just want to smash my head into my keyboard until the annoying pain goes away.
 

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even tho i wouldn't mind seeing MC with Azel or Willow for that matter ... i like the game as is ... the only reason i said anything about a patch is to make others understand .. that after the game ... a patch could be made to make them happy as well ....
With the patch, these scenes can be done gradually. After the game, he will have to rewrite a lot of things and add these scenes for each day, it will be too much work and hassle
 

Alex Lem

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OMG no please no. That Landlady Tenant stuff is just absolute garbage, don't bring that shit here. Just wait for a modder to come in and address it when it makes sense. We don't need the Azel, Wendy, Cedey lewd stuff it can wait stop trying to rush it. I get you like the models but let's not change the game just for lewd stuff for 3 people and then make the entire story stranger than needed. The landlady moves out with you and now she is your tenant that is just dumb. Ugh why can't we just let this go already, why is it so important to people to be rushed into this game? Ugh I just want to smash my head into my keyboard until the annoying pain goes away.
What do you think about how Killer7 handled with incest in his game? I think he did it perfectly. This is not difficult to repeat in this game
 

The Krypt Angel

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Ok look it boils down to this if BD was being on the level in that interview and there really will be no incest you need to respect his decision, accept it and get the fuck over it.

If in the (likely) event it will be added later it will happen WHEN IT HAPPENS no sooner no later and you need to respect it, accept it and get over it

Nothing you do or say will change either of these facts it's just the way it is so deal with it and stop cluttering up the thread with the same tired circle jerk back and forth bullshit
 

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What do you think about how Killer7 handled with incest in his game? I think he did it perfectly. This is not difficult to repeat in this game
Well considering I only have played his game for a few months I wouldn't know how that went, but also keep in mind the tenant is not now the landlord.

Ugh where is my clone machine I feel the end is near! Save me Stacy you are my only hope. (Sorry inside joke only one person will get)
 
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Gray21

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idk about what BD likes or dislikes .. but as far as incest ... i would love to see sex between Azel & MC and (or) Willow & MC ... i prefer both .. but beggars can't be choosers .. besides theres always a thing called a " PATCH " ... that could be made for it ... sooo ...

as far as Azel goes .. so far MC and Azel just kiss ... i hope they don't consider that incest ... if that is then i committed incest with my mom growing up like several billion (ok maybe not a billion) times ..

and as far as if BD doesn't want to include incest .. this is still a great game .. and he's got me hooked as a Patreon when i can afford it :)
man i really hope Azel will be a relationship option, the build up with her is just too cute, and all the time i was playing i was looking forward to spend more time with her. Shes just waay too cute, and i love that. :)
 
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I wonder if BD could provide options to determine each character relationship by allowing the user to type in what type of relationship. Such as "Neighbor", "friend", "co-worker", "classmate", "teammate", and etc. Maybe that could comply with Patreon's regulation. I recalled there were few games in beginning it would allow the player to type in name and relationship. Some of those game also have additional characters added through out the game and allow the player to change the character name and relationship as optional.
 

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man i really hope Azel will be a relationship option, the build up with her is just too cute, and all the time i was playing i was looking forward to spend more time with her. Shes just waay too cute, and i love that. :)
And I, though initially disappointed, would rather that there were even less time spent with Azel. I don't really want to play a lot of "handholding, cuddling, etc" with "mom" when there are so many other characters we can spend time with... I'd like to see Ethan talk to Willow about her life, their life together, their mother instead of spending it with Azel. I am sure I am in the minority there though. Just want to explore more of the siblings and their backstory.
 

moskyx

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With the patch, these scenes can be done gradually. After the game, he will have to rewrite a lot of things and add these scenes for each day, it will be too much work and hassle
After the game there will be no need to rewrite anything. He'll need to write and render lewd scenes and then throw them where he now adds a tender family-love scene, gameflow won't be affected anyway. Rendering those scenes now would double the work, increasing update times without any visible benefit at the time. It's better to finish the game the way it's being developed and then release an EvilModder's patch after a couple of months with the bonus content for those interested

I wonder if BD could provide options to determine each character relationship by allowing the user to type in what type of relationship. Such as "Neighbor", "friend", "co-worker", "classmate", "teammate", and etc. Maybe that could comply with Patreon's regulation. I recalled there were few games in beginning it would allow the player to type in name and relationship. Some of those game also have additional characters added through out the game and allow the player to change the character name and relationship as optional.
That will do it for Patreon's limits but then again it will make the game's story absolutely rubbish because you need a default option in line with Patreon's ToS. But I'm getting those interested in WVM having incest content as soon as possible don't care about that, just want their fix
 
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Uncle Loco

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Stacy, I need your help we are going on a trip to Kamino to see some friends. We are going to need an army to fight off those that demand Incest and complain about update delays. With a clone army we can stop them all. There is only so much SB and BB can do, we need your help now. Can I count on you?

Later that same day:
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Thank you Stacy we will now just wait for our Clone army and then we can stop them all. Together we will bring peace back to the WVM forum and restore balance in the galaxy.
 

Alex Lem

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I wonder if BD could provide options to determine each character relationship by allowing the user to type in what type of relationship. Such as "Neighbor", "friend", "co-worker", "classmate", "teammate", and etc. Maybe that could comply with Patreon's regulation. I recalled there were few games in beginning it would allow the player to type in name and relationship. Some of those game also have additional characters added through out the game and allow the player to change the character name and relationship as optional.
It was in Light of my life. And Patreon weren't angry. There are no patches, in the beginning you can just write who they are to you, although it is clear to anyone that this is the daughters of the MC. Naughty Road perfectly bypassed the rules without any stress, smart man
 

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I wonder if BD could provide options to determine each character relationship by allowing the user to type in what type of relationship. Such as "Neighbor", "friend", "co-worker", "classmate", "teammate", and etc. Maybe that could comply with Patreon's regulation. I recalled there were few games in beginning it would allow the player to type in name and relationship. Some of those game also have additional characters added through out the game and allow the player to change the character name and relationship as optional.
This does not work. If ever the game that does this is reported to Patreon, they do not accept this solution.
 

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This does not work. If ever the game that does this is reported to Patreon, they do not accept this solution.
What are you talking about? This has already worked many times. As I said Naughty Road did it. If Brain does the same, he won't need any patches, and no one will bother him
 
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