BeoWoolF

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Dudes, WHY you feed it? Ignore - Report & Go!
No point in dealing with rude and aggressive green ears. It only makes sense with funny.
Hmm on one hand you are of course right. Don`t feed the trolls.

On the other Hand, what else to do with all the <°))))>< ?

Of course everybody is allowed to express himself. Free speech ftw!! ( No snark there, I really am 100% in for free speech )
What some people seem to have forgotten is:
- nobody forces you to say anything
- if you have to put critics out there is no need to be insulting.
- if you say something it does not make it true (Also the fact that they are offended does not mean they are right.)
- if you say something stupid it is in the realm of free speech of other people to call you out on it.
- if you insult, be prepared to get it back in kind.

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BTLD

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Hmm on one hand you are of course right. Don`t feed the trolls.

On the other Hand, what else to do with all the <°))))>< ?

Of course everybody is allowed to express himself. Free speech ftw!! ( No snarc there, I really am 100% in for free speech )
What some people seem to have forgotten is:
- nobody forces you to say anything
- if you have to put critics out there is no need to be insulting.
- if you say something it does not make it true (Also the fact that they are offended does not mean they are right.)
- if you say something stupid it is in the realm of free speech of other people to call you out on it.
- if you insult, be prepared to get it back in kind.
AMEN BROTHA/SISTA
EDIT : i do agree 100% with you on this one
 

Spfjolietjake

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never bro :))) always happy to express my emotions ..or at least some of them cause i don't want to get my posts deleted xD :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
The best thing about others deleted posts, you get your reacts back :p :LOL:


Hmm on one hand you are of course right. Don`t feed the trolls.

On the other Hand, what else to do with all the <°))))>< ?

Of course everybody is allowed to express himself. Free speech ftw!! ( No snark there, I really am 100% in for free speech )
What some people seem to have forgotten is:
- nobody forces you to say anything
- if you have to put critics out there is no need to be insulting.
- if you say something it does not make it true (Also the fact that they are offended does not mean they are right.)
- if you say something stupid it is in the realm of free speech of other people to call you out on it.
- if you insult, be prepared to get it back in kind.

Edit: typos
Well said. But kink shaming and personal attacks don't belong here. Freedom of speech or not its the law of this land. That said awesome post.
 
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BeoWoolF

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But kink shaming and personal attacks don't belong here. Freedom of speech or not its the law of this land.
(y)

The rights of one individual end where they impede those of another individual.
There is the right of not being insulted and called names.
There is also the right to create your VN without being called out for it because you do not do it the way an individual wants it to play out.

Personal attacks do not only not belong here, they don`t belong anywhere.

Kink shame.
When will people learn that there is nothing to be ashamed of.
Sexuality is the most natural thing in the world.
It is the only reason we are here and the only reason we might be around for longer.
There is nothing unnatural about kinks, gender, orientation of whatever as long a you keep ONE rule up.

All has to be with the consent of all people involved which have to be able to consent. ( see age, mental instability/disability )

So no matter how many, age ( within limits which are luckily handled by law ), gender, kind, practices, relationship, relation.
Even more, as long as I am not involved, why should it be on me to have an opinion of it? Not my issue, so it should not matter for me.
Apart maybe that I could be happy for them as they are happy about it.

Argh.. ranting again..
 

Spfjolietjake

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(y)

The rights of one individual end where they impede those of another individual.
There is the right of not being insulted and called names.
There is also the right to create your VN without being called out for it because you do not do it the way an individual wants it to play out.

Personal attacks do not only not belong here, they don`t belong anywhere.

Kink shame.
When will people learn that there is nothing to be ashamed of.
Sexuality is the most natural thing in the world.
It is the only reason we are here and the only reason we might be around for longer.
There is nothing unnatural about kinks, gender, orientation of whatever as long a you keep ONE rule up.

All has to be with the consent of all people involved which have to be able to consent. ( see age, mental instability/disability )

So no matter how many, age ( within limits which are luckily handled by law ), gender, kind, practices, relationship, relation.
Even more, as long as I am not involved, why should it be on me to have an opinion of it? Not my issue, so it should not matter for me.
Apart maybe that I could be happy for them as they are happy about it.

Argh.. ranting again..
I'd vote for you, probably even when I sober up :p :LOL:
Another great rant/post. Cheers :)
 

Naxos

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Hmm on one hand you are of course right. Don`t feed the trolls.

On the other Hand, what else to do with all the <°))))>< ?

Of course everybody is allowed to express himself. Free speech ftw!! ( No snark there, I really am 100% in for free speech )
What some people seem to have forgotten is:
- nobody forces you to say anything
- if you have to put critics out there is no need to be insulting.
- if you say something it does not make it true (Also the fact that they are offended does not mean they are right.)
- if you say something stupid it is in the realm of free speech of other people to call you out on it.
- if you insult, be prepared to get it back in kind.

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100%, I fully support people's right to free speech even if I disagree or don't like what they're say, even if it's disgusting or hateful. Juts coz they have a right to say it, doesn't mean I'll listen or entertain it. Just add to ignore and move on. I won't even report it unless it's truly hateful or a personal attack.

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I think the kink shaming card get's over played here way too often.
To me there is a very big difference between saying "I don't like X content it ruins the game for me." and " Spfjolietjake and BeoWoolF how can you guys like X it's disgusting." Both will get deleted for kink shaming. Hell I had a few posts deleted and got a warning for saying I didn't like something. Never said a word about others liking it or there was anything wrong with it, just I didn't like it.
 

BeoWoolF

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I think the kink shaming card get's over played here way too often.
To me there is a very big difference between saying "I don't like X content it ruins the game for me." and " Spfjolietjake and BeoWoolF how can you guys like X it's disgusting." Both will get deleted for kink shaming. Hell I had a few posts deleted and got a warning for saying I didn't like something. Never said a word about others liking it or there was anything wrong with it, just I didn't like it.
Yepp

There is always a difference between

- Kink X is not for me
and
- How can you like Kink X, that is sick.

Rule 34 is not a thing for the sheer fun of it. It is because no matter what, out there, someone is quite happy to masturbate about it ( Yes, the ladies do that, too ).

Maybe I am surprised that something is a kink, but why should I be disgusted about it as long as it is within mentioned rule. Consent.
If it is not my cup of tea, well I can just close that particular door and walk over to the next one. You never know what you can learn from it.

So calling someone out for whatever floats their boat. WHY ???

Just don`t get it. To be honest, do not even want to.

Ok, who am I kidding, yes I do want to but that`s because I am just too onmi-intrigued.
 

Spfjolietjake

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100%, I fully support people's right to free speech even if I disagree or don't like what they're say, even if it's disgusting or hateful. Juts coz they have a right to say it, doesn't mean I'll listen or entertain it. Just add to ignore and move on. I won't even report it unless it's truly hateful or a personal attack.


I think the kink shaming card get's over played here way too often.
To me there is a very big difference between saying "I don't like X content it ruins the game for me." and " Spfjolietjake and BeoWoolF how can you guys like X it's disgusting." Both will get deleted for kink shaming. Hell I had a few posts deleted and got a warning for saying I didn't like something. Never said a word about others liking it or there was anything wrong with it, just I didn't like it.
True anyone should be able to say what kink they don't like. To me kink shaming is calling me a "sick fuck" for liking to watch a chick piss or wanting her to wear pig nose and oink, etc. It isn't "I don't appreciate or like holding hands, I find it too lewd."

I've only seen you be respectful :unsure:
 
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Hordragg

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True anyone should be able to say what kink they don't like. To me kink shaming is calling me a "sick fuck" for liking to watch a chick piss or wanting her to wear pig nose and oink, etc. It isn't "I don't appreciate or like holding hands, I find it too lewd."

I've only seen you be respectful :unsure:
Tsk, tsk. Having the piggy only wear the nose without also putting it into a firm gimpsuit and attaching a lovely little tail to it. Sick fuck indeed. :p:ROFLMAO:
 

Uncle Loco

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Ok just wanted to hit that last point. There are a few points in the game where Azel mentions Wendy (I think it was day 4 and 6) and how she would check in on you. She showed up at the MC and sand to him while he slept and also went to some of his basketball games. So there was contact, it was the MC that was not aware of it. Also Wendy didn't give up the MC she only gave Cedar to the state. Cedar gave us that information when we had the conversation with Azel and Cedar at the coffee shop. Azel and Cedar also confirmed the the MC's dad took the MC away from Wendy. We don't know why for sure but we know it was after the accident the Cedar had. Just wanted to make sure we had all the facts straight.
 

Uncle Loco

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Ok last point to follow-up on my Damien post from yesterday. If Damien was a female it seems we would have forgiven him or give him another chance without question. I mean we forgave the person who made the MC's girlfriend feel bad, who also punched out another student, and lied to the MC about Ryker. Oh that was Willow by the way. We forgave countless other characters that lied to you or only told you partial truths (Rachael, Anna, Wendy). You can tell me he lied to the MC, Stalked him, gave information about him to other people, and got into a fight, but everyone of those actions was taken by a girl the MC seems to trust as well.

I want to hear Damien's side on what happened before I can make my final judgement. I hear all the points you guys have been making and how a real friend should act. So far if we take that logic there is a short list of people we can trust and really call a friend: Azel, Jamie and Shauna. Outside of that everyone else has either broken a trust barrier or it is too soon to make a fair judgement. Sure Belle, Harper and Rachael seems to be pushing the limits on what they can do to help the MC, but they all have their own motives as well as to why they should be helping him.
 
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