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RabidSloth

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So no step mom at all......really, did he actually state that, because the MC and her have been getting more intimate, more touching, longer kisses etc, so if it's not happening why is it alluding to more is going to happen?
Probably obvious to most, but I think that's by far what causes the most contention. Not just that she's in the game, hot, and we can't fuck her. But that combined with all the blatant tension and teasing of it.
 

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So no step mom at all......really, did he actually state that, because the MC and her have been getting more intimate, more touching, longer kisses etc, so if it's not happening why is it alluding to more is going to happen?
no incest in this game ever
 
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I love the game. also to anyone that wants to bitch about the game since you obj have a lot to say why do you put the time and effort into a project since you think you can do better. the odds are that once you see what it actually takes to make even a simple VN you will shut up
 

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I love the game. also to anyone that wants to bitch about the game since you obj have a lot to say why do you put the time and effort into a project since you think you can do better. the odds are that once you see what it actually takes to make even a simple VN you will shut up
I don't know what specifically brought the comment on, so I'm not referring to anything in particular. But there are a lot of things that I love too, but don't feel like they're just beyond any criticism. That being said, I'm talking about respectful, constructive criticism that is just put forth as opinion and feedback. Not sure if you meant it that way or not, but I've never really found the defense of "Well, where's your game, huh?" to be a solid one. I mean maybe if we're talking about the people who saunter in and just shit all over everything, then yeah :LOL:. But not against the kind that's presented with courtesy. (Again, I just saw your comment and don't know what brought it about or anything).
 

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I don't know what specifically brought the comment on, so I'm not referring to anything in particular. But there are a lot of things that I love too, but don't feel like they're just beyond any criticism. That being said, I'm talking about respectful, constructive criticism that is just put forth as opinion and feedback. Not sure if you meant it that way or not, but I've never really found the defense of "Well, where's your game, huh?" to be a solid one. I mean maybe if we're talking about the people who saunter in and just shit all over everything, then yeah :LOL:. But not against the kind that's presented with courtesy. (Again, I just saw your comment and don't know what brought it about or anything).
Where this came from was: I looked at the reviews for the game and read the 1-star reviews and they are trash. Especially when they come from ppl that aren't dev themselves. If the 1-star reviewers think a game is trash and they leave a lengthy shit post. Then I would love them to take the time and effort to try and make one that's better. they would probably never get out of the planning phase or they would release 1 half-ass update and then abandon it a month later. basically, if someone has that much to say about a game then shut up and make your own then. im all for constructive criticism. I welcome it but if you are just going to shit post. then thats where my comment comes from.
 

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no incest in this game ever
I'm sure this will get facepalmed into oblivion but whatever.

No matter how many times this mantra is repeated, it's still never going to change the fact that it doesn't address what the root of the big issue is about. If there was no sexual tension or teasing whatsoever between MC and Azel, and it was all completely wholesome and platonic, then yes, you'd still get some "No incest?" comments. Because her, Cedey, and bio-mom are hot, in a porn game, and we can't fuck'em, so some people are going to inevitably say something lol. But it wouldn't be anywhere near to the extent that it is now.


I think a fairly common occurrence goes as thus:

New Player: *sees Azel* "Are we going to fuck her?"

People on here: "No. Patreon counts it as incest, so there won't be any sex with her."

New Player: "Oh, okay." *keeps playing, and sees the repeated teasing and building of sexual tension with her*

New Player: "Hey now wait a minute! What the f--"

People on here: "NO INCEST! What don't you understand about that?!"


I think anyone with even a shred of common sense should be able to see what the real contention is about. And if anyone who's annoyed by how it keeps getting brought up ever expects it to subside, then one of two things has to happen first. 1) Content with Azel gets altered and rewritten. Or 2) An evil modder somehow makes a mod some day. That's it. Just repeating "No incest" over and over is understandably never going to placate the majority of people who keep asking about it. Within the context of what goes on between the characters in this game, "No incest cos Patreon" is as satisfying of an explanation as "Because" would be. And the amount of people on here who scoff and say "Why do they keep asking about it?" baffles me if they really don't understand why, and expect it to ever stop while the game is in its current state.

All of that being said: I really like this game. And very much look forward to seeing how everything in it plays out once it's completed. Now go ahead and proceed with the Facepalms. Ya'll hand'em out like candy around here anyway lol.
 
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RabidSloth

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Where this came from was: I looked at the reviews for the game and read the 1-star reviews and they are trash. Especially when they come from ppl that aren't dev themselves. If the 1-star reviewers think a game is trash and they leave a lengthy shit post. Then I would love them to take the time and effort to try and make one that's better. they would probably never get out of the planning phase or they would release 1 half-ass update and then abandon it a month later. basically, if someone has that much to say about a game then shut up and make your own then. im all for constructive criticism. I welcome it but if you are just going to shit post. then thats where my comment comes from.
Ah, okay. Yeah I totally get that. As we agree on: offering constructive criticism and feedback is one thing. But 1 Star?? Really lol? If they're just going off like "This is stupid! And this should be that way, and that should be this way, etc." then I imagine I'd get fucking annoyed if I was a dev too :LOL:. And could also see the "How bout you make a game, since you're obviously such an insightful genius about what makes a great one and how it should be done??"
 
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RabidSloth

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Other than Keyana, you mean?
I'd also love to see some anal action with some of these extremely fine ladies. But it's been a while since I played too. And even then it was the Loyal route and I never played the Cheater one. So I don't even remember who Keyana is. But she sounds... fun :sneaky:
 

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Oh yeah, as I said as I was editing the post you replied too, I legit just speed click through their dialogue now because it's literally every other sentence that we hear "Brubru" and "Cece". Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy this game, and enjoy most aspects, but I feel like mc and Cedar need to chill out with that, because yeah, I 100% agree with you on how cringy their dialogue is.
I am Not really a Fan of the "brubru" & "Cece" titles/talk,... but willing to 'cut them some slack' for now. They have been separated and FINALLY Reunited after what 12+ yrs???
AND We Need to Realize That WE as players HAVE to wait Months Now For a NEW Update/Version;...
- From A "Game play" POV - It has Only been a few days to a week for them (MC & Cedar)

I DO HOPE That, At Some point, BEFORE Game Ends; MC and Cedar/Willow Will get back to talking 'normal' again;
until then WE will just have to suffer thru it.

(Game play of WVM is like watching an Episode/Season of "24".
-From MC's Realization that Willow is His long lost sister; Just HOURS before the Bowling "Charity Event"/ MC fight/arrested/released, returned Home, meeting w/ Jamie's Mom, and the "Party".
Only about 18 - 24 hrs had passed (??)
-It was Much LONGER for US.
 

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I'm sure this will get facepalmed into oblivion but whatever.

No matter how many times this mantra is repeated, it's still never going to change the fact that it doesn't address what the root of the big issue is about. If there was no sexual tension or teasing whatsoever between MC and Azel, and it was all completely wholesome and platonic, then yes, you'd still get some "No incest?" comments. Because her, Cedey, and bio-mom are hot, in a porn game, and we can't fuck'em, so some people are going to inevitably say something lol. But it wouldn't be anywhere near to the extent that it is now.


I think a fairly common occurrence goes as thus:

New Player: *sees Azel* "Are we going to fuck her?"

People on here: "No. Patreon counts it as incest, so there won't be any sex with her."

New Player: "Oh, okay." *keeps playing, and sees the repeated teasing and building of sexual tension with her*

New Player: "Hey now wait a minute! What the f--"

People on here: "NO INCEST! What don't you understand about that?!"


I think anyone with even a shred of common sense should be able to see what the real contention is about. And if anyone who's annoyed by how it keeps getting brought up ever expects it to subside, then one of two things has to happen first. 1) Content with Azel gets altered and rewritten. Or 2) An evil modder somehow makes a mod some day. That's it. Just repeating "No incest" over and over is understandably never going to placate the majority of people who keep asking about it. Within the context of what goes on between the characters in this game, "No incest cos Patreon" is as satisfying of an explanation as "Because" would be. And the amount of people on here who scoff and say "Why do they keep asking about it?" baffle me if they really don't understand why, and expect it to ever stop while the game is in its current state.

All of that being said: I really like this game. And very much look forward to seeing how everything in it plays out once it's completed. Now go ahead and proceed with the Facepalms. Ya'll hand'em out like candy around here anyway lol.
With all that said braindrop could open a subscribestar and add incest to the game lol :)
 

RabidSloth

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I am Not really a Fan of the "brubru" & "Cece" titles/talk,... but willing to 'cut them some slack' for now. They have been separated and FINALLY Reunited after what 12+ yrs???
AND We Need to Realize That WE as players HAVE to wait Months Now For a NEW Update/Version;...
- From A "Game play" POV - It has Only been a few days to a week for them (MC & Cedar)

I DO HOPE That, At Some point, BEFORE Game Ends; MC and Cedar/Willow Will get back to talking 'normal' again;
until then WE will just have to suffer thru it.

(Game play of WVM is like watching an Episode/Season of "24".
-From MC's Realization that Willow is His long lost sister; Just HOURS before the Bowling "Charity Event"/ MC fight/arrested/released, returned Home, meeting w/ Jamie's Mom, and the "Party".
Only about 18 - 24 hrs had passed (??)
-It was Much LONGER for US.
I agree with what you said... but you get a heart just for mentioning 24 alone lol (y)
 

RabidSloth

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With all that said braindrop could open a subscribestar and add incest to the game lol :)
BD has said this before, but I just feel it's worth repeating: Even *IF* he did plan to make an incest patch in the future. As long as he's bound by Patreon, he wouldn't say it. Ever. Not on here, and not in a DM. Because it's not worth risking what I assume is his livelihood over it. So the answer will always indeed be "No". And because of that, it means there really isn't much of a point in asking him about it. And it could just simply be true. But because of that situation being what it is, him saying "No" is not actual confirmation that it will never happen. It's just irrelevant whether it is or isn't in the context of asking him about it.

And I don't blame him for that either.

(and just on a personal note: fingers crossed for evil modder :))
 

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I am Not really a Fan of the "brubru" & "Cece" titles/talk,... but willing to 'cut them some slack' for now. They have been separated and FINALLY Reunited after what 12+ yrs???
AND We Need to Realize That WE as players HAVE to wait Months Now For a NEW Update/Version;...
- From A "Game play" POV - It has Only been a few days to a week for them (MC & Cedar)

I DO HOPE That, At Some point, BEFORE Game Ends; MC and Cedar/Willow Will get back to talking 'normal' again;
until then WE will just have to suffer thru it.

(Game play of WVM is like watching an Episode/Season of "24".
-From MC's Realization that Willow is His long lost sister; Just HOURS before the Bowling "Charity Event"/ MC fight/arrested/released, returned Home, meeting w/ Jamie's Mom, and the "Party".
Only about 18 - 24 hrs had passed (??)
-It was Much LONGER for US.
Actually since the Dev has said that "brubru" is not going to fuck "Cece" she is just taking up valuable time that the MC could be spending on girls he can win over and fuck. So she can just move off to the back ground!
 

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I'm sure this will get facepalmed into oblivion but whatever.

No matter how many times this mantra is repeated, it's still never going to change the fact that it doesn't address what the root of the big issue is about. If there was no sexual tension or teasing whatsoever between MC and Azel, and it was all completely wholesome and platonic, then yes, you'd still get some "No incest?" comments. Because her, Cedey, and bio-mom are hot, in a porn game, and we can't fuck'em, so some people are going to inevitably say something lol. But it wouldn't be anywhere near to the extent that it is now.


I think a fairly common occurrence goes as thus:

New Player: *sees Azel* "Are we going to fuck her?"

People on here: "No. Patreon counts it as incest, so there won't be any sex with her."

New Player: "Oh, okay." *keeps playing, and sees the repeated teasing and building of sexual tension with her*

New Player: "Hey now wait a minute! What the f--"

People on here: "NO INCEST! What don't you understand about that?!"


I think anyone with even a shred of common sense should be able to see what the real contention is about. And if anyone who's annoyed by how it keeps getting brought up ever expects it to subside, then one of two things has to happen first. 1) Content with Azel gets altered and rewritten. Or 2) An evil modder somehow makes a mod some day. That's it. Just repeating "No incest" over and over is understandably never going to placate the majority of people who keep asking about it. Within the context of what goes on between the characters in this game, "No incest cos Patreon" is as satisfying of an explanation as "Because" would be. And the amount of people on here who scoff and say "Why do they keep asking about it?" baffle me if they really don't understand why, and expect it to ever stop while the game is in its current state.

All of that being said: I really like this game. And very much look forward to seeing how everything in it plays out once it's completed. Now go ahead and proceed with the Facepalms. Ya'll hand'em out like candy around here anyway lol.
I found in my time on here. The ones that normally do the face
BD has said this before, but I just feel it's worth repeating: Even *IF* he did plan to make an incest patch in the future. As long as he's bound by Patreon, he wouldn't say it. Ever. Not on here, and not in a DM. Because it's not worth risking what I assume is his livelihood over it. So the answer will always indeed be "No". And because of that, it means there really isn't much of a point in asking him about it. And it could just simply be true. But because of that situation being what it is, him saying "No" is not actual confirmation that it will never happen. It's just irrelevant whether it is or isn't in the context of asking him about it.

And I don't blame him for that either.
coo coo
 
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I'm sure this will get facepalmed into oblivion but whatever.

No matter how many times this mantra is repeated, it's still never going to change the fact that it doesn't address what the root of the big issue is about. If there was no sexual tension or teasing whatsoever between MC and Azel, and it was all completely wholesome and platonic, then yes, you'd still get some "No incest?" comments. Because her, Cedey, and bio-mom are hot, in a porn game, and we can't fuck'em, so some people are going to inevitably say something lol. But it wouldn't be anywhere near to the extent that it is now.


I think a fairly common occurrence goes as thus:

New Player: *sees Azel* "Are we going to fuck her?"

People on here: "No. Patreon counts it as incest, so there won't be any sex with her."

New Player: "Oh, okay." *keeps playing, and sees the repeated teasing and building of sexual tension with her*

New Player: "Hey now wait a minute! What the f--"

People on here: "NO INCEST! What don't you understand about that?!"


I think anyone with even a shred of common sense should be able to see what the real contention is about. And if anyone who's annoyed by how it keeps getting brought up ever expects it to subside, then one of two things has to happen first. 1) Content with Azel gets altered and rewritten. Or 2) An evil modder somehow makes a mod some day. That's it. Just repeating "No incest" over and over is understandably never going to placate the majority of people who keep asking about it. Within the context of what goes on between the characters in this game, "No incest cos Patreon" is as satisfying of an explanation as "Because" would be. And the amount of people on here who scoff and say "Why do they keep asking about it?" baffles me if they really don't understand why, and expect it to ever stop while the game is in its current state.

All of that being said: I really like this game. And very much look forward to seeing how everything in it plays out once it's completed. Now go ahead and proceed with the Facepalms. Ya'll hand'em out like candy around here anyway lol.
i get what your saying .. i just wanted to state that because .. no matter what anyone thinks the Dev. said there will never be any in this game .... it of course does not mean a modder can't add it later one at some point ... i think is the reasoning behind what your talking about ;)
 
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Well, hopefully some of us would understand what BETA means. I haven't check it out and I have no plan to check it out at this time being. I rather wait until the week 1 re-do is completed. Since I have planned to start over again. We may not know if there any thing missing or been modified during that week one.

Those who have stated that the "update" was disappointed, might have to read the title that it was tagged as BETA. Usually it way better than ALPHA version. Real BETA testers would understand that when it comes to testing application/software/Operating Systems. ALPHA usually very buggy and released quickly to get feedback from testers to determine the new feature is good or not along with some inputs. BETA is partial release with less bugs and errors. However others may re-define their own method how to level the test product version before the final version.

Overall, I have to say that BD seems to show that he been in progress with his development of WVM. He provided a particle BETA release to the Tiers. We ended up getting the BETA here in F95zone that others been waiting to hear and see the fraction of the update.

Overall, I am going to pay my respect to sit back and wait until week one re-done get release. I been seeing posting in the last few pages that it may not be release until 2022. If that is true, I have no problem waiting since I been planning to start from the beginning anyway to see if there any additional modifications.

Have a great day and be safe... (y)
 
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