LordDreamWolf

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This is the cycle of this thread, more than 2300 pages and it never changed:KEK:
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Sadly, I have to agreed with this. Funny, but still sad.

And as a member of the dev team of a different game comments critical of our work are common. Even to the point of trolling in some cases. For the team I work with and myself, we first look to see if there is a legitimate concern or if it is just the person complaining that the game isn't moving in the direction they want it to. Honestly we have found a few ways to improve thing after getting trolled on here and other places. Granted this is just how we go about things, to each their own.

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preglovr12

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Most important sentence there is that YOU find it flamebait. YOU don't go talk to the person saying something. I didn't use any foul language, I didn't attack anyone, I stated my opinion of this dev and his practises. That YOU see them as flamebait even in the slightest, makes YOU not the right person to be a moderator.
No, I said we find it to be flamebait, as in the mod team.
 
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Kronos405

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I get the whole Kimmy love and appreciate it, but this is just weird man, but hey you do you!
how was that weird in this thread? haha, it's literally just a joke picture that took a solid 4 minutes and 20 seconds to make.
 

jasonjj90

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Of course people will get upset with stupidity like that, it's condescending and factually wrong, BD has a very good work ethic and is in NO way scamming his Patreon's.
You can have your opinion about that and state it here. I however differ of opinion about it and state it here. That you don't like the opinion and you have so much of an anger problem that you get angry because of it is a you problem.
No, I said we find it to be flamebait, as in the mod team.
Ok change the word person to team than. Point stays exactly the same.
 
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Spfjolietjake

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how was that weird in this thread? haha, it's literally just a joke picture that took a solid 4 minutes and 20 seconds to make.
Personally I don't think kimmy is wolverine's type. He has been always attracted to strong independent women not cry baby "woe is me" blame others for her troubles type.

I don't know him personally just judging by the comics and movies of course.
 

Kronos405

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This is the cycle of this thread, more than 2300 pages and it never changed:KEK:
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But there are already insects in this game Tali saw them.

Personally I don't think kimmy is wolverine's type. He has been always attracted to strong independent women not cry baby "woe is me" blame others for her troubles type.

I don't know him personally just judging by the comics and movies of course.
Well, I didn't really take into consideration wolverine's taste when making but you're right I should have.
 

Spfjolietjake

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You can have your opinion about that and state it here. I however differ of opinion about it and state it here. That you don't like the opinion and you have so much of an anger problem that you get angry because of it is a you problem.
Unless you don't follow the rules and get reported and deleted and then complain about it, then it's a you problem until you spend several more posts complaining about that then it's still a you problem but also annoying...
 

HornyyPussy

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You can have your opinion about that and state it here. I however differ of opinion about it and state it here. That you don't like the opinion and you have so much of an anger problem that you get angry because of it is a you problem
First of all it's hilarious that you think anything you have to say makes me angry, comedy gold!

Second, it's not an opinion, it's fact. If you know anything about BD, as in actually reading what he has to say you would realize that there is nothing wrong with his work ethic.

And how is he scamming anyone when he pauses his patreon when he can't deliver on time? You come of as very entitled when say something like that.
 

jasonjj90

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First of all it's hilarious that you think anything you have to say makes me angry, comedy gold!

Second, it's not an opinion, it's fact. If you know anything about BD, as in actually reading what he has to say you would realize that there is nothing wrong with his work ethic.

And how is he scamming anyone when he pauses his patreon when he can't deliver on time? You come of as very entitled when say something like that.
No you get upset about it your words not mine. If they would let my message stay than you would have known why he does that. It's to keep his fanboys around. Otherwise way less people would give him money. Even getting paid every other month for years is better than not getting paid at all.
Unless you don't follow the rules and get reported and deleted and then complain about it, then it's a you problem until you spend several more posts complaining about that then it's still a you problem but also annoying...
Just because a couple of fanboys and some Moderators with dictator fetishes find is Flamebait, shoudn't give them the right to delete a viable opinion on this game and its developer. The only reason me and a lot of other people are pissed is because this games potential especially at the start. However we should be able to state our grievances about the way the developer in our opinion is ruining it. And the way he, in our opinion, is scamming people paying him money for this game.
 
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HornyyPussy

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No you get upset about it your words not mine. If they would let my message stay than you would have known why he does that. It's to keep his fanboys around. Otherwise way less people would give him money. Even getting paid every other month for years is better than not getting paid at all.

Just because a couple of fanboys and some Moderators with dictator fetishes find is Flamebait, shoudn't give them the right to delete a viable opinion on this game and its developer. The only reason me and a lot of other people are pissed is because this games potential especially at the start. However we should be able to state our grievances about the way the developer in our opinion is ruining it. And the way he, in our opinion, is scamming people paying him money for this game.
Again you have your facts wrong but that's not surprising at this point.

You do realize that upset and angry are 2 different things right? If not, look it up.

He has paused his patreon 9 times in the last 14 months or so, damn he's scamming us hard!

And 2 things, stop deflecting with "fanboys" just because people doesn't agree with you but more importantly, for the love of God stop claiming to speak for "a lot of other people", it just makes you sound desperate.
 

Spfjolietjake

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Just because a couple of fanboys and some Moderators with dictator fetishes find is Flamebait, shoudn't give them the right to delete a viable opinion on this game and its developer. The only reason me and a lot of other people are pissed is because this games potential especially at the start. However we should be able to state our grievances about the way the developer in our opinion is ruining it. And the way he, in our opinion, is scamming people paying him money for this game.
It is so noble of you and the "a lot of other people" to be so concerned about how they spend their money. I'm sure it warms the cockles of their hearts.

You're biggest mistake however is thinking you have "rights" on a private forum. Confrontational posts are frowned upon and most break a rule or two.

You aren't breaking any rules by being annoying nor did I mean to imply you did. You good to annoy away until you pass the line of posting bs to spamming it.
 

Kronos405

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I can somewhat understand the frustration of others. But, not really since I and a lot of the people complaining do not donate to BD so I honestly don't understand why they're complaining in the first place. And I understand it's his game and he can do whatever he likes with it and nobody has a right to say otherwise.

But, honest question, Why doesn't he just release what he has for the update? He 100% has a larger update ready than what most other devs do in a month and he could silence the people crying about it (it's not like he needs to since they're mainly here and he doesn't stop by to see it anymore because of them).

Not trying to reignite an argument or anything it's just, did he really need days 10-14 ready in one go?

It's just an honest question as I know he can do whatever he likes with HIS game.
 

preglovr12

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But, honest question, Why doesn't he just release what he has for the update?
That's a hard question to outright answer and of course I don't know of BD's exact situation, but a lot of the "all in one" devs that make the daz art, code, and write solo tend to be writers first and foremost. With writing you're never truly done with a project until it's out there. What if BD comes up with an idea to set something up on day 11 for a nice pay off on day 14 but he's already published days 10-12 and going back and adding it would break saves? It'd just be a different headache, though maybe people would be more forgiving about it rather than not releasing anything at all.
 
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Uncle Loco

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I liked it better when we talked about which character was the best and we argued over that or what we thought would be in the next update. Hell we went through months of no updates and had some awesome conversations on what we thought would be next. We buried the complaints about delays and incest talk. We had fun here talking about the game.

Now it is just complain about how people think that BD should or shouldn't do things. If not then it is complain about what the mods here should or should not consider off topic/trolling. No one is going to be happy here any more. This is not a WVM only thing this is in a lot of other threads too.

Don't forget there is a block button to ignore people.
 

Kronos405

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That's a hard question to outright answer and of course I don't know of BD's exact situation, but a lot of the "all in one" devs that make the daz art, code, and write solo tend to be writers first and foremost. With writing you're never truly done with a project until it's out there. What if BD comes up with an idea to set something up on day 11 for a nice pay off on day 14 but he's already published days 10-12 and going back and adding it would break saves? It'd just be a different headache, though maybe people would be more forgiving about it rather than not releasing anything at all.
Yea I know nothing about how difficult it is to create a game and do everything alone or like you said what it would break if he released some days and then added to prior days. but maybe it would be easier or less stressful fixing bugs (again have no idea if it's just as difficult as the rest) but it would calm those constantly crying for an update even though his Patreons most likely don't care unlike the pirates here.

Idk all in all, I know nothing about the how or what is stressful full about game creation and managing the happiness of those who care about a project like this and it's not like it really matters what I think since I'm not donating to him yet.
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