Spfjolietjake

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To me, she is a complicated character and she strikes me as someone who doesn't know what she wants. She just does things and hopes for the best. I don't trust her.
I trust Eden and can't wait to film the video tape. I don't trust Hanna however, That woman seems fit to boil someone's bunny. I also don't trust Katie.
 

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With Rachael's clients (Reminder, who are well-off successful career women) who are making babies with MC, it was mentioned by Rachael that in their contracts that MC wouldn't be held responsible for the child. Only the mothers, unless MC himself insist on being involved in the child's life.
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And no WVM isn't the type of game where a choice bites you in the ass later.
 
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With Rachael's clients (Reminder, who are well-off successful career women) who are making babies with MC, it was mentioned by Rachael that in their contracts that MC wouldn't be held responsible for the child. Only the mothers, unless MC himself insist on being involved in the child's life.
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And no WVM isn't the type of game where a choice bites you in the ass later.
Rachel is already trustworthy. And while your mc may get involved, that does not nullify the contract
 

Master of Puppets

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Part of me hopes the MC blows out his knee in the first game he plays, ending his career and is left with like 12 kids to pay for. I'd laugh soooo hard.
While I'm quite sure that won't happen, it would be an interesting twist and I'm sure that they would all be fine, several of the girls are already wealthy enough to support the family, even if his celebrity isn't strong enough for him to do a line of shoes or whatever the fuck it is that sports stars do when they can't play anymore.
 

Spfjolietjake

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I hope in the long run, the MC problems of anger managment (when you hit ryker and the screen is red) are explored
God I really hope not. No offense people want different things. I personally would be really disappointed time taken away from the important things to delve into that.
 

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God I really hope not. No offense people want different things. I personally would be really disappointed time taken away from the important things to delve into that.
Having anger managment problem is something really needed to be seen, just saying, if he doesn´t learn to control them it could be dangerous for the ones around him
 

Spfjolietjake

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Having anger managment problem is something really needed to be seen, just saying, if he doesn´t learn to control them it could be dangerous for the ones around him
If this was real life you might have a case. For me personally this vn is wish fulfillment, fantasy. I prefer it not dive too deep in reality.

That is just my feelings. You may not be alone in your wants though. I do understand where you are coming from at least.
 
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Having anger managment problem is something really needed to be seen, just saying, if he doesn´t learn to control them it could be dangerous for the ones around him
Why? oh god why? Everytime "These Days" someone gets violent in response to violence, "They" are the ones with anger problems? Seriously, that shows both a lack of common sense, and decency. Wow the guy who just tried to beat me to death with his friends just punched my mom... maybe a polite yet stern talking too will get him to stop, or I just called the police, you just keep hitting my mom till they get here. Lets be honest ANYONE seeing someone punch there mom like that will get violent, to a lesser or greater degree. did the MC overreact, debatable but lets not forget he was running on adrenaline having been getting the crap beat out of him by 4 people about two minutes earlier.
 

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I hope in the long run, the MC problems of anger managment (when you hit ryker and the screen is red) are explored
That's not a anger management issue, that's him taking issue with someone hitting his mom.
A man who ONLY gets violent when a loved one is threatened, does not have an anger problem.
Now if he beat the crap out of bailey for playfully spanking Tali in the middle of an orgy... well thats another matter all together.
 

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Why? oh god why? Everytime "These Days" someone gets violent in response to violence, "They" are the ones with anger problems? Seriously, that shows both a lack of common sense, and decency. Wow the guy who just tried to beat me to death with his friends just punched my mom... maybe a polite yet stern talking too will get him to stop, or I just called the police, you just keep hitting my mom till they get here. Lets be honest ANYONE seeing someone punch there mom like that will get violent, to a lesser or greater degree. did the MC overreact, debatable but lets not forget he was running on adrenaline having been getting the crap beat out of him by 4 people about two minutes earlier.
I used the term Anger Managment bcs it was seen that the mc loses completely his mind, the respone after seing his mom punched was right, but he also started to get mad uickly after Ryker mentioned his father when they were with kimmy for her new house
 
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I think those rage outbursts will be explored, as he's clearly out of control whenever it happens. It's not a simple reaction to an aggression, he completely loses it. It's basically the MC reacting as his father did so I also expect it to play some role in the story. Not to make something dramatic about it, but for the MC to better know himself and improve.
 
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I would argue that these outbursts are the product of the former family life. Both times were when (the first time apparently) his birth mother was the target of violence. I would argue that that's where his protective instinct is triggered in those moments, because as a young boy he couldn't protect his mother.
 
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I would argue that these outbursts are the product of the former family life. Both times were when (the first time apparently) his birth mother was the target of violence. I would argue that that's where his protective instinct is triggered in those moments, because as a young boy he couldn't protect his mother.
I would argue you be put in the situation MC was and you have a clear head.
My money is .. on not, you won't be able to.
 

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Why? oh god why? Everytime "These Days" someone gets violent in response to violence, "They" are the ones with anger problems? Seriously, that shows both a lack of common sense, and decency. Wow the guy who just tried to beat me to death with his friends just punched my mom... maybe a polite yet stern talking too will get him to stop, or I just called the police, you just keep hitting my mom till they get here. Lets be honest ANYONE seeing someone punch there mom like that will get violent, to a lesser or greater degree. did the MC overreact, debatable but lets not forget he was running on adrenaline having been getting the crap beat out of him by 4 people about two minutes earlier.
Sounds like you have some anger issues you need to deal with.


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Jokes aside. I agree with you. He has no issues or anything to deal with. Someone puts hands on those you love, you damn well better step up and protect them. As Roosevelt once said, "talk softly and carry a big stick"; which I think the MC does pretty damn well.

He's reasonable and doesn't use violence, till it's needed, when it's needed, he does. Nothing wrong with that, it's the way it should be.
 

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I would argue you be put in the situation MC was and you have a clear head.
My money is .. on not, you won't be able to.
That's not the point. The point is that he goes almost blind when it happens and just keeps punching, leaving his opponent very badly hurt, without him realizing what he's doing. That's something to explore precisely because he's not controlling it, and also something that seems to link him with his father. Learning why it is happening to him, and how to control it, seems to me like an important step in a process like the one the MC is living, coming to grips with his adult life while also recovering his lost family life. I hope Lauren to put her psychologist degree to a good use there. Now, will BD go for an in-depth exploration of this potentially interesting element, or will just overlook it and solve it the same way he threw away any kind of potential emotional conflict between Moms? That's another topic
 

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He's reasonable and doesn't use violence, till it's needed, when it's needed, he does. Nothing wrong with that, it's the way it should be.
Yup.
I don't see an anger issue either.
The only two things that with enough malicious intent can be seen as such is the fact that Ryker previously had a history with dishing out mental and physical violence before and the fact he had to be stopped by an outsider.

Someone intentionally hurts and attacks someone you love and care about → you stop that.
Protecting someone from a violent person with the only working counter is not an anger issue.
What should he have done when Ryker hit his mom in the face?
Stop and scold him?

That's not the point. The point is that he goes almost blind when it happens and just keeps punching, leaving his opponent very badly hurt, without him realizing what he's doing. That's something to explore precisely because he's not controlling it, and also something that seems to link him with his father. Learning why it is happening to him, and how to control it, seems to me like an important step in a process like the one the MC is living, coming to grips with his adult life while also recovering his lost family life. I hope Lauren to put her psychologist degree to a good use there. Now, will BD go for an in-depth exploration of this potentially interesting element, or will just overlook it and solve it the same way he threw away any kind of potential emotional conflict between Moms? That's another topic
If you think that protecting someone you love and care about from potentially deadly violence via the use of violence after ALL attempts to de-escalate the situation have failed and caused further issues is an anger issue with the defending person you can't be helped.
 
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moskyx

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Yup.
I don't see an anger issue either.
The only two things that with enough malicious intent can be seen as such is the fact that Ryker previously had a history with dishing out mental and physical violence before and the fact he had to be stopped by an outsider.

Someone intentionally hurts and attacks someone you love and care about → you stop that.
Protecting someone from a violent person with the only working counter is not an anger issue.
What should he have done when Ryker hit his mom in the face?
Stop and scold him?
Honestly, I think you should replay that part. MC's reaction is not a normal deffensive reaction. And it's not the first time either. It's clearly an anger issue.
 
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