VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch. 1 Ep. 13 B5] [Braindrop]

[PhazeUFO]

This is exactly what has happened. The anticipation has been built up for so long that he's worried the update will not be enough/worth the wait for some. It's ready but he's not ready to potentially face negative feedback in his mental state.

Although I do believe the overall reception would be more positive than not, it's inevitable that it won't live up to the wait for some. He would be better off releasing it as is and then taking a proper break to sort himself out. One less weight off his shoulders.

Ego will do that to you. The main thing people need when they release something to other people is enough humbleness to take whatever criticism that will come. You can't please everyone and there are plenty of people looking to hate.

 

[lemonfreak]

Back when I was writing regularly my method for avoid paralysis from perfectionism was to deliberately write one part that was bad. Maybe the story would begin with "It was a dark and stormy night" which is the classic bad intro or I'd write ome dialogue that made Anakin's I hate sand speech look like Shakespeare.

Doing this meant perfection was impossible which made it easier to just write.

 

[Shawnchapp]

Now get ready for rage over “bru bru” spam or whatever it was. Almost uninstalled the game haha

oh ya i mean it was cute at first but over and over nah I'm good to much Lol Tho im little more upset by the fact i told shauna to call me daddy she says it like twice only and just uses MC name for the rest of the whole scene in the hotel kinda like the baily scene earlier Like why even give the option to pick it if they aren't actually gonna do it?

then agian my game could just be bugged who knows

 

[memegamerfun]

oh ya i mean it was cute at first but over and over nah I'm good to much Lol Tho im little more upset by the fact i told shauna to call me daddy she says it like twice only and just uses MC name for the rest of the whole scene in the hotel kinda like the baily scene earlier Like why even give the option to pick it if they aren't actually gonna do it?

then agian my game could just be bugged who knows

Just name your MC Daddy and problem solved lol

 

[Shawnchapp]

Just name your MC Daddy and problem solved lol

You're a genius in all my years of "gaming" why have i never thought of this Lol

 

[Spatenklopper]

This is exactly what has happened. The anticipation has been built up for so long that he's worried the update will not be enough/worth the wait for some. It's ready but he's not ready to potentially face negative feedback in his mental state.

So let's summarize it very simply.

BD needs help.
In the meantime, he has looked and found some for his personal problems.
As for the game, it's going to be difficult.
He doesn't need and probably won't want a writer, because it's quite simply his story, which he wants to tell the way he likes it, he doesn't need someone for the graphics or coding side either.

What he could use is someone for "public relations".
Someone who just keeps this crap of eternally crying people off his back.
Someone who tells him that posting so much of your personal life on the internet might not be the best decision either.
The sad irony of the whole thing, he provides his MC with all this help dozens of times in the form of endless girls, and it takes him years to seek even the slightest help for himself...

I hope he eventually finds what he's looking for and that he doesn't lose sight of his own little family with all the shit that's going on in his life.

 

[D9074]

Its impossible to keep everyone happy, the sooner people realise that the better it is for them. idk what is happening in his life but the longer he delays it the more he will feel like that if he really is that worried that the update wont live up to how long its taken.

You need to stick to your vision when it comes to storys, sure you can look at some criticisms regarding different things but if you listen to the outside noise too much it will take you away from where you wanted to go with it. Maybe he is worried that people wont support him anymore if he puts out a bad update or if its not perfect, idk. worrying too much and over analysing everything to the point where you do nothing will hurt way more than 1 bad update.

 

[aaachris]

It's the bootlickers fault. They make you feel like you're not in the ground. They don't hold you accountable.

After 1year of creating renders, you can't be like what's the sequence, order. I don't know which dev makes render without sorting out the story and sequence first.

 

[shi5432]

lol so still nothing after about a year. how is this not abandoned yet?

 

[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

I don't know which dev makes render without sorting out the story and sequence first.

ICSTOR was notorious for that. When he still did something.

 

[HornyyPussy]

lol so still nothing after about a year. how is this not abandoned yet?

Maybe because F95 has rules for when a VN gets the "abandoned" tag and they haven't been met?

 

[jamdan]

It's the bootlickers fault. They make you feel like you're not in the ground. They don't hold you accountable.

After 1year of creating renders, you can't be like what's the sequence, order. I don't know which dev makes render without sorting out the story and sequence first.

Philly makes the renders before he writes, he said so in his Q&A a couple years ago.

I don't get it personally, but it seems like art based developers tend to write around the renders. Whereas story based developers tend to write, then render. Seems backwards to me, so I guess I'd be a story based dev. Not that you can't be both though.

But the key for this kind of style (render -> write) is to have a clear idea of what the scenes are going to be, even if the writing isn't done yet. And that is really hard to do if you run into a block like BD has. He knows what the scenes needs to be... but he can't quite figure it out. So he is tinkering until it seems "right" and that adds to his problems.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Philly makes the renders before he writes, he said so in his Q&A a couple years ago.

I don't get it personally, but it seems like art based developers tend to write around the renders. Whereas story based developers tend to write, then render. Seems backwards to me, so I guess I'd be a story based dev. Not that you can't be both though.

But the key for this kind of style (render -> write) is to have a clear idea of what the scenes are going to be, even if the writing isn't done yet. And that is really hard to do if you run into a block like BD has. He knows what the scenes needs to be... but he can't quite figure it out. So he is tinkering until it seems "right" and that adds to his problems.

Kinda like movie makers shoot the movie first and made the script and plot afterwards. I think those that make the renders first and then make up the story afterwards kinda kick themselves in the balls if they claim they already got the story made though.

 

[kilop0505]

any scenes with Jasmine yet?

 

[Reniere]

any scenes with Jasmine yet?

I think theres only 1 or 2 kisses but nobody knows if when or will the update drop if there will be some more then those times. so Yes and no depending on what you are looking for.

 

[joryh]

lol so still nothing after about a year. how is this not abandoned yet?

I wasn't aware it was October already. Where did the rest of spring, all of summer, and half of fall go?

 

[K18]

It's May 24 for most and this time it's one of the newer faces on WVM campus time to shine, Yuki. Kimmy's cute sister. Curious to learn why she thinks MC is avoiding her , I know i wouldn't avoid her .

Happy Birthday Yuki!

 

[Sir Cumference]

Kinda like movie makers shoot the movie first and made the script and plot afterwards. I think those that make the renders first and then make up the story afterwards kinda kick themselves in the balls if they claim they already got the story made though.

I'd kinda imagine it being like storyboarding, viasualizing the scene you had in mind before fully writing it. Might help a more artistic dev, although my artistic qualities include occasionally enjoying 3d vaginas and drawing dicks on napkins when hammered, so maybe it doesn't help a dev at all, maybe they just like it.

 

[Joshua Tree]

I'd kinda imagine it being like storyboarding, viasualizing the scene you had in mind before fully writing it. Might help a more artistic dev, although my artistic qualities include occasionally enjoying 3d vaginas and drawing dicks on napkins when hammered, so maybe it doesn't help a dev at all, maybe they just like it.

Storyboard is typical made on a whiteboard that is easy to edit and alter though. Not time consuming rendering. I'm all for creators use make of storyboard, but do it by render scenes that seems awful time consuming and not very practical.

 

[Abhishek_tanwar]

I said a couple years ago (my last post in this thread), and this is probably controversial, but I think this game blowing up the way it did actually hurt BD overall. Sure, it made/makes him a lot of money. But going from a nobody to one of the most popular game developers seemingly overnight puts a huge pressure on someone. Pressure he is now feeling in the midst of a series of personal tragedies.

He didn't have a slower buildup like almost every other developer, including pro's like Pinkcake and Philly had. A lot of people get into making games to make $$$, but having a slower buildup is actually very beneficial. You learn and improve, under lesser pressure, and when/if you do get big, you're prepared for it.

But with BD? Nope. He was a modest dev for a while, when he was doing weekly or bi-weekly releases. Then people subbed. A lot. This thread blowup. Tons of supporters...along with some haters. Some, like myself, who became dissatisfied with the game just quietly left and didn't even get noticed. But along the way, this game became one of the most polarizing on the site. You either love it, or you hate it. This just adds to BD's mental health issues. Figuratively speaking, he was tossed into the fire.

And then you have IRL issues causing even more problems/pressure. So, combine pressure/expectations of thousands of fanboys. And some haters/controversy. And a series of unfortunate IRL issues. Yeah, it gets difficult to say the least. The issues he is dealing with today have been building up for literally most of this games history.

Hopefully he doesn't go down the perfectionist rabbit hole, that pretty much spells doom for this game. As it has for many others. But I also think this is the pressure of expectation manifesting itself. He is experiencing IRL issues -> Update delay -> Fans get antsy -> BD wants to keep his fans happy -> Try's to make the update the best possible -> Self-doubt/Perfectionism creeps in -> More delay -> Fans get antsy....

Not a good cycle to be in.

In my point of view your pov is almost at perfection yet I have some doubts which I will mention.

1. "game blowing - Issue"

Overall I am not agree with this one, Overall all major devs(Dr. pink cake or philly games ect.) gone through same. Their game get biggest audience here, then some of the audience became their supporter. Yet they(Devs) did well and provided update while in progress of updates they provided status update every single week so their supporter have clear view of situation.

=>Pinkcake game got real rise up very fast(acting lesson) _ not to mention blow up in the end.
=>Philly have same faith (Depraved Awakening).

" game blowing up the way it did actually hurt BD overall." : I have doubt on it (It's because I consider BD very mature dev so it's not a problem until it's chosen to be one).

I like to mention : With huge supporter, More option should be available in every way for devs YET somehow everything goes out of windows and there is always some kind of problem(For some devs).

2. "either love it, or you hate it" : That is perfectly said but only because of blind lovers. In past I have criticism for some points about the game and got branded myself troll by some while I love the game. This problem got worsen when an moderator come down with hammer and try to dictate every word you say should be by book of law here.

So outcome was some serious people which have honest opinion in their own way, chose to get out of here in Silence, Same happen 100 times in force in BID thread so some of my friend chose to leave.

3. Perfection : The Idea of perfection is biggest bs in my pov because Perfection doesn't exists. There is always a flaw in anything that existed or will. All I am trying to say is do best and that is all and let people judge.

What I said above, I know my opinion is not in majority here but In the end I wish BD best for his game, life and health.​