VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch. 1 Ep. 13 B5] [Braindrop]

[jamdan]

This game went from one of the most hyped games around to literally driving itself off a cliff so quickly. BD is now banning Patrons when they ask critical questions? Not good. This thread, at least in the early days, was always an echo chamber of praise for BD. But if he is at the point where he can't deal with valid critiques, this game is doomed.

But this has probably been simmering for a while. Maybe even since the game began. Those bi-weekly updates he used to do aren't sustainable. So he slowed down. And then he released updates every few months. Then he slowed down more. And now he has a 2k render update that has almost been ready for months. And he hasn't released it, because he slowed down even more. Assuming that 2k render update actually exists, we've heard that one before from other devs.

It's like running a marathon. He sprinted out of the gates, and exhausted himself. Now he has a pulled hamstring, a twisted ankle and on his last few drops of water. Will he make it to the finish line? I doubt it. Very sad that this game has turned into a "what not to do" for future devs. And this doesn't even account for any of his mental health issues.

 

[Ghostly Hale]

...the end? Not seeing a light with this guy's. Let's be honest, one of the biggest teases can't be smashed the long lost sis can't be smashed and the dev is having a prolonged meltdown. So, story yeeted substance retreated meat not beated. Feels bad man.

 

[Matt2012021]

didn't like the update but didn't hate it either not a fan of devs doing side updates rather focus on main story but that just might be be

 

[conscientious objector]

That's the big problem, the "i've got mental health/i'm ill" excuses are a meme now they have been done that much.

It also splits the playerbase.

On one hand you've got BD's fans that believe everything he says and on the other you've got those that think he's lying because he's burnt out.

I don't know what the truth is but I have seen the excuse used far too many times and it has made me sceptical.

You're absolutely right. It's shitty to feel this way about such a serious issue, but they've cried wolf too many times. I would be the first to say we have to believe what people are saying, in mental health, domestic abuse, anything really. If they're saying it, there's a reason. But the caveat here is that there's money to be made and there's been too many sleazy opportunists muddying the waters. So, I'm done believing it and would hope that other people learn to just move on from these devs until they give us some actual content to talk about and enjoy.

 

[Joshua Tree]

That's the big problem, the "i've got mental health/i'm ill" excuses are a meme now they have been done that much.

It also splits the playerbase.

On one hand you've got BD's fans that believe everything he says and on the other you've got those that think he's lying because he's burnt out.

I don't know what the truth is but I have seen the excuse used far too many times and it has made me sceptical.

I'm old enough to have experienced a few hard knocks and mental scars. I couldn't very well just step off and let the world keep churn without me. Everyone sooner or later get dinged up and catch a few blows. You can relate to others who get into certain situations. I know not everyone is built the same, and can endure the same, but sometimes things feels a bit "over the top". Tbh, I rather would hear a creator say they burnt out, feed up and need a break. Because I think that is more the reality of things, and would be more honest.

 

[Sotak]

I am.curious about 1 thing:

How TF is the android of the DITLO minigame a bigger download than the android of the main game?

 

[JB08]

Can we bang emiko, hannah, kimmy, yuki, purple, or rainn yet?

 

[Smarmint]

I know this won't be a popular opinion around here, but why not just stop? It is obvious Braindrop's heart isn't in it anymore, and it seems to be causing him a lot of mental issues. Maybe in the beginning, WVM was a welcome distraction from whatever was going on in Braindrop's life, but clearly not anymore. According to the last couple of years of BDs posts, WVM has become the albatross around his neck.

Honestly, as much fun as I have had playing WVM as a bit of mindless escapism, I think it's time for Braindrop to just stop. Focus on his family and his day job (or get one).

Also, as an aside, this kind of release is really counterproductive. For those of us that love Harper as a character, it's kind of an insult. More than kind of. Put it in the story, release it, or forget about it. I haven't played it, but censorship? At this point, I think BD has trolled us all enough. Don't put in the scene if you feel it should be censored, give me a break.

 

[katabasi]

from updates with 1800 renders to 169 in 7 months AND not even updating the main game
am i reading stuff right?

 

[Deximay]

No and there never will be, she's the main girl.

Meh, I'd break up with everyone just to have Rachel as my main girl in a heart bit.

 

[Myscho]

Man, was excited for some action with pink haired girl and after all this months still nada

 

[Weasel_Face]

Harp is my fav character in the game so when I saw the ditlo I was over the moon until it turned into a japanese porn mosaic.
At that point I just deleted it. SMH...

 

[Effinpist]

Been a supporter on his Patreon since the beginning, and I am trying really hard to sympathize with his mental issues, but my life threw much worse at me than what he is dealing with, and I didn't curl up in the fetal position and fall into a deep depression. I lost my father, mother and grandmother in a span of 7 months, then my wife had a mental breakdown and was diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic, then she tried to murder me in my sleep because the voices in her head told her she wouldn't be sick anymore if I was dead. After the second murder attempt, we divorced and the judge gave her the house that I had busted my ass working 2 jobs to pay for, and I had to leave the state because of death threats from her family. Fast forward 2 months and my oldest sister dies of cancer. Yet I still got up every day and went to work and did what I needed to do to survive and move forward. If BD keeps this up, he will be in the same boat as my ex-wife, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Maybe it's a generational thing, it seems that the newer generations have been coddled so much that they can't handle when life gets shitty. It's sad to see. As far as this DITLO is concerned, why even release it if you're going to have it censored? I mean what the hell is up with that. Your supporters have stuck with you for the most part ( I'm sure some have bailed ) but instead of rewarding those who have stayed, you put out mediocre content and censor it. I want to defend him for what he's doing, but it's getting harder and harder to do. I hope he toughens up and pulls himself out of this funk he's in, his patreons have made him a nice amount of money, and to do this to them is just not right.

 

[Avaron1974]

Been a supporter on his Patreon since the beginning, and I am trying really hard to sympathize with his mental issues, but my life threw much worse at me than what he is dealing with, and I didn't curl up in the fetal position and fall into a deep depression. I lost my father, mother and grandmother in a span of 7 months, then my wife had a mental breakdown and was diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic, then she tried to murder me in my sleep because the voices in her head told her she wouldn't be sick anymore if I was dead. After the second murder attempt, we divorced and the judge gave her the house that I had busted my ass working 2 jobs to pay for, and I had to leave the state because of death threats from her family. Fast forward 2 months and my oldest sister dies of cancer. Yet I still got up every day and went to work and did what I needed to do to survive and move forward. If BD keeps this up, he will be in the same boat as my ex-wife, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Maybe it's a generational thing, it seems that the newer generations have been coddled so much that they can't handle when life gets shitty. It's sad to see. As far as this DITLO is concerned, why even release it if you're going to have it censored? I mean what the hell is up with that. Your supporters have stuck with you for the most part ( I'm sure some have bailed ) but instead of rewarding those who have stayed, you put out mediocre content and censor it. I want to defend him for what he's doing, but it's getting harder and harder to do. I hope he toughens up and pulls himself out of this funk he's in, his patreons have made him a nice amount of money, and to do this to them is just not right.

Yeah, well, I once stood on some LEGO ....... BARE FOOT.

 

[Boehmi]

I think it was smart to release this.

BD said he was scared of the backlash for his Work. It would hit him hard, maybe to hard. So he release this, we can punsh and kill this Shit so we are calmer for the Main Game.

500 IQ Move tbh

 

[Sotak]

That's true, but you wonder about it. You may think about it, but you don't say it directly to your own child. Like what the actual fuck?

There are so many ways to make it work if you wanted to create a scene in which Natalie learns about it. In my opinion, it was just badly written.

It feels even stranger because Natalie reaction it's on the level of saying something similar to a partner or a friend.

" Oh, I was just thinking about how different my life could have been without you "
" You are stuck with me now haha "

This does feel more like a joke said between friends than anything else. You can add all the " Your mother is a failure " or " I wouldn't change anything " stuff, but it still doesn't make sense as an interaction. Hell, right after that you just start talking about boys? Hello? What the actual fuck is this?

Ok...just started this and have the context.

Don't know why everyone is griping about "Harper shouldn't have said that to Nat. No Parent should ever say that to their kid" or "Nat should not have been so understanding". Harper was apologizing to her daughter for having that thought in the first place. She wasn't saying she wished Nat was never born, she was saying she felt guilty for imagining the possibility and asking for forgiveness. Ive actually had almost this exact discussion with my parents before...and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

This scene makes total sense and Nat's reaction is completely understandable.

 

[Shelscott50]

It wasn't harsh enough.

People got hurt because of Damien, he should have had the shit kicked out of him.



I don't think that would help BD much but a remaster would pretty much kill the game or at least severely hurt it.

People here, me included, have a severe hatred for remasters. They halt content and very rarely improve the game, also usually lead to games being abandoned.

If a dev wants to remaster their game then do it AFTER it's complete when it doesn't piss on your playerbase.

You are entitled to your opinion, and I am okay with that! But How do you figure?
Only people Damien hurt was MC, Jasmine and the Team by his betrayal.
It was Ryker & his goons who did the beating the first guy unconscious; then the beating of MC.
- They would have done Far worse If Wendy had not intervened.

As far as Remastering goes, what difference does it make?
The Game HAS Basically been "On Hold" for over a year; with little or No progress.
Look how long it took for version 10 to be released.
- I am Only suggesting a Remastered version, or a Re-make from scratch, to get Him Back to work.
I am actually surprised that WVM has Not been Abandoned already...

 

[BeingADikDik]

Ok...just started this and have the context.

Don't know why everyone is griping about "Harper shouldn't have said that to Nat. No Parent should ever say that to their kid" or "Nat should not have been so understanding". Harper was apologizing to her daughter for having that thought in the first place. She wasn't saying she wished Nat was never born, she was saying she felt guilty for imagining the possibility and asking for forgiveness. Ive actually had almost this exact discussion with my parents before...and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

This scene makes total sense and Nat's reaction is completely understandable.

Just the issue of phrasing really. If Harper had said she was daydreaming about not having dropped out of college and how much easier they'd have it, then that would be both honest and empathetic. To focus on not having Nat instead of a different life path that would still include Nat paints Harper in a very different light.

 

[Avaron1974]

You are entitled to your opinion, and I am okay with that! But How do you figure?
Only people Damien hurt was MC, Jasmine and the Team by his betrayal.
It was Ryker & his goons who did the beating the first guy unconscious; then the beating of MC.
- They would have done Far worse If Wendy had not intervened.

They wouldn't have had any information if not for Damien.

He is just as responsible for all that as Ryker is.

 

[JustPeekin]

I know this won't be a popular opinion around here, but why not just stop? It is obvious Braindrop's heart isn't in it anymore, and it seems to be causing him a lot of mental issues. Maybe in the beginning, WVM was a welcome distraction from whatever was going on in Braindrop's life, but clearly not anymore. According to the last couple of years of BDs posts, WVM has become the albatross around his neck.

Honestly, as much fun as I have had playing WVM as a bit of mindless escapism, I think it's time for Braindrop to just stop. Focus on his family and his day job (or get one).

Also, as an aside, this kind of release is really counterproductive. For those of us that love Harper as a character, it's kind of an insult. More than kind of. Put it in the story, release it, or forget about it. I haven't played it, but censorship? At this point, I think BD has trolled us all enough. Don't put in the scene if you feel it should be censored, give me a break.

This is his job and I doubt he would turn down all that Patreon money... I'm sure he has some more excuses left.