VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch. 1 Ep. 13 B5] [Braindrop]

[UnoriginalUserName]

A while ago I expressed my disappointment in this VN, despite enjoying some stuff and most of the girls personalities. I said it was unrealistic that MC just got every girl in the harem so easily, and how he seemed to have a time-turner, cause he had so many time to spend with every single one of them and still focus on school and basketball. I was told to shut my hater mouth and wait, because the author was working on fixing everything.
Now I see the update here and check on the comments to see if its worth it, and I only see negative ones.
So please spare me the download time, why are you guys saying this update sucked? Did author not change anything at all, or what happened?

It's not an update. It's a side-story about 1 day in the life of Harper (the coach) where she internal-monologues about how pathetic she thinks she is (mostly) and her nudity is censored.

 

[Sotak]

So, I am curious.
Is Ditlo:Harper supposed to happen Before MC arrives at WVM?
what exactly is the timeline?

I honestly don't have a clue based on the playthrough. Its "supposed" to be day 15 I guess, but none of the story actually fits that...or itself even. So I really don't know.

 

[Ghostface Reborn]

A while ago I expressed my disappointment in this VN, despite enjoying some stuff and most of the girls personalities. I said it was unrealistic that MC just got every girl in the harem so easily, and how he seemed to have a time-turner, cause he had so many time to spend with every single one of them and still focus on school and basketball. I was told to shut my hater mouth and wait, because the author was working on fixing everything.
Now I see the update here and check on the comments to see if its worth it, and I only see negative ones.
So please spare me the download time, why are you guys saying this update sucked? Did author not change anything at all, or what happened?

just a few renders added to the last update. a few seconds.

 

[moskyx]

I honestly don't have a clue based on the playthrough. Its "supposed" to be day 15 I guess, but none of the story actually fits that...or itself even. So I really don't know.

It's supposed to fit the new schedule that is going to be a part of the rework he says he is doing

 

[btrain33]

A while ago I expressed my disappointment in this VN, despite enjoying some stuff and most of the girls personalities. I said it was unrealistic that MC just got every girl in the harem so easily, and how he seemed to have a time-turner, cause he had so many time to spend with every single one of them and still focus on school and basketball. I was told to shut my hater mouth and wait, because the author was working on fixing everything.
Now I see the update here and check on the comments to see if its worth it, and I only see negative ones.
So please spare me the download time, why are you guys saying this update sucked? Did author not change anything at all, or what happened?

It wasn't a game update. Just a side project that got released.

 

[grim019]

It seems like the timeline of DITLO is supposed to be set on day 15 of the remake of the beginning. So it will probably fit better after that is released.

 

[Kracken36]

first of all, being burned out is being mentally ill

What? Braindrop is his own boss. Burnout is not a mental illness, it's bad management. Whether it's overworking, overgaming, overwanking, whatever.

Conflating that with actual, provable mental illnesses is ridiculous. The dude either lost interest, or is riding the gravy train.

 

[Ghostface Reborn]

these updates are getting smaller and smaller...

 

[Ghostface Reborn]

it's an update. phrase it however you want.

 

[juan palote]

it's an update. phrase it however you want.

Its not an update.

You are probably confusing this with the Beta that you didnt play that was launched a few months ago.

Its a side story, from a female protagonist POV, that doesnt continue the story, just shows Harper PoV during a day that we cant precise because we dont have the new timeline of events of the new update, and its probably based on that new timeline

 

[Ghostface Reborn]

Its not an update.

You are probably confusing this with the Beta that you didnt play that was launched a few months ago.

Its a side story, from a female protagonist POV, that doesnt continue the story, just shows Harper PoV during a day that we cant precise because we dont have the new timeline of events of the new update, and its probably based on that new timeline

I've played every update. last one was about a year ago. what are you talking about?

 

[moskyx]

Imagine being a troll and arriving 6 hours late to the party. That must suck

 

[juan palote]

I've played every update. last one was about a year ago. what are you talking about?

No, there was a BETA a few months ago, dont remember if it was October or December, that was just a few scenes.

That was part of the main story.

What was released now is a side story, completely independent from the main game, that has Harper as protagonist

 

[SerHawkes]

No, there was a BETA a few months ago, dont remember if it was October or December, that was just a few scenes.

That was part of the main story.

What was released now is a side story, completely independent from the main game, that has Harper as protagonist

Still counts as an update, regardless. Moving on.

 

[varage]

I've played every update. last one was about a year ago. what are you talking about?

I thought you called this an update? then 10.0.1 was also an update that hit about somewhere between December or February of this last year. certainly not a year ago. No matter how small the update was anywho lol.

 

[Ghostface Reborn]

I'm not in the mood to bother deciphering blithering nonsense today.

 

[Kassan06969]

Betas don't count. This was a steaming pile. Last actual update was in July 2021. And they have YET to play ONE GAME of basketball - after nearly 3 years. Time for an actual, real, NOT beta update long ago.

 

[Ghostface Reborn]

Betas don't count. This was a steaming pile. Last actual update was in July 2021. And they have YET to play ONE GAME of basketball - after nearly 3 years. Time for an actual, real, NOT beta update long ago.

how much money has he made as of now?

 

[shi5432]

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Sup guys.
I just felt like typing some shit out. I know I said the next thoughts post would be on the 2nd but I'm feeling a certain type of way and I just know what I have to do even if you guys won't like it.

It's no secret that shit has been fucked for a while.
It all starts and stops with me, and I've been on quite the self destructive journey lately.
Things kept clashing together in the worst ways at the worst times and I let myself slowly fall into this mental block.
I can't describe the mental side of this shit. All I can say is that putting the actual update out is simultaneously something that I know has to be done and I want to do, and is also something that I dread having to do.
The pressure, the expectations, the finality of it all.
It's all self imposed issues. I know that, I'm not trying to deny it.

It's almost been a year since the last actual update. A fucking year.
There's so much work done but none of it has been shown and it's the most frustrating thing. I hate this, I hate feeling incapable.
The obvious question is "What's stopping you from releasing it?"
And I don't have a good answer. Anytime I sit down and package it and think about calling it done, I get this deep guttural feeling of dread. I'm so fucking mentally blocked up and I don't know why.
I fucking wish I did.
It's not something I think about once and then put off for a month. It is all day every single day.
But I've been doing everything I can to get away from it. To try and put it off but it's impossible.
My wife mentioned to me about how she thinks I'm worried to call it quits on it because then everything that has happened this year is over. It means I'm over it and it shouldn't.
There's so fucking much that I haven't told you guys about shit that has happened because I hate sounding like a fucking excuse robot. There's been so many times where I've typed out these long rant posts just to ctrl+w at the end. (Don't try that command unless you're tired of reading this btw)
Working on WVM has always been an escape for me... and something about stopping the work that I was doing when all of these things happened feels like I'm closing away that part of my life... I think.
Does it really make sense? No, but it just... it is what it is I don't know what else to say.
I've been stuck and I want out. I need out.
And that brings me to this next part.

I made the DITLO with Harper and I had a fucking blast making it. It was fun to write... hell it was even fun to edit the images (Which is usually the biggest bore for me).
And... it was even fun to release.
Sure, it may not be what you guys really wanted right now. Sure, it may suck that she was censored in it. I get it, but that's not what really matters.
It was the first time in nearly a year that I felt good about releasing something.
Like really good, I feel great right now which is insane.

There's many reasons for that but the important bit for this is that it made me realize what I need to do.
I've asked about it before and you guys overwhelmingly said to hold off and release the update in full all at once.
And I do agree that that way would be the best for the game and the best overall experience... but I can't. Trust me, I want to... but I can't.
The simplest way I can put it is that there's too much instant finality to it. I put a piece of me into every part of this game and I think it makes it a good game but it also makes situations like these... really hard to let go of.
When it's over... life goes back to normal. And that scares the fuck out of me right now.
But it has to be over.

Part of me says that I should just rip the band aid off but I'm legitimately scared of things going poorly and me ending up in an even worst spot.
There's so much emotionally put into this update... it's fucking rough man.

I've always enjoyed small consistent releases... mostly. I get the most short term enjoyment from them but I don't feel like they're what's best for the game in a developmental aspect. And I've become incapable of the consistent part anyway.
So... instead of ripping the band aid off I'm going to slowly peel and chew at the bastard until it's gone.
I'm going to sit down and parse the update out in chunks that make sense to me and I'm going to release those chunks.
I'm going to allow myself to work on some of the scenes again... there are a few that I genuinely think I can improve rather easily and quickly. I'm not going to let myself go into perfectionist mode... and that's not what this has been about. I don't think anyway.

I can do it in chunks... I'm not going to pretend like I won't be stressed or be bogged down by that dread feeling... but I can manage it.
It has to get done.
I really tried to do it the way that most of you wanted it to be... I did.
I still want to do it that way but I simply can't I'm sorry.

I'm going to hold off on the character sheets and bday renders that were planned and focus on getting the update chunked out before releasing those.

And ultimately if you want to wait for all of it to be out then you're free to do so.
I just know that this is the only way for me to get out of this block I'm in right now.
I thought letting enough time pass would let me heal enough but the pressure of the update is really slowing that stuff down.

I do apologize for going this route after asking how you guys wanted it.
It's out of necessity though and I hope you understand.

I'll have info about update sizes and dates soon.
Thanks for caring enough to read my brain vomit.
Love you guys and talk to you soon.

(Oh and each release for this will be available to all patrons and former patrons (Through discord))

I'm sure his patreons meant well but it was clearly the wrong advise.
If you don't like something you released, you can still correct it at a later point.

actually thats what modern software development is about we all do it Mr. Dev. You made the right choice, you'll feel a lot better.

Also i'm very sure the feedback about the updates is going to be way better than he expects, once the obligatory "man we waited so long for this" stuff is out of the way

 

[SteelToRust]

Ok...just started this and have the context.

Don't know why everyone is griping about "Harper shouldn't have said that to Nat. No Parent should ever say that to their kid" or "Nat should not have been so understanding". Harper was apologizing to her daughter for having that thought in the first place. She wasn't saying she wished Nat was never born, she was saying she felt guilty for imagining the possibility and asking for forgiveness. Ive actually had almost this exact discussion with my parents before...and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

This scene makes total sense and Nat's reaction is completely understandable.

I still think that there was no reason to tell her in the first place and I still think that having her have that reaction is even stranger: you are free to be as understanding as possible, but words still hurt.

The problem is not what was being said, but how it was handled. The fact that they spent more time talking about the MC and boys later after her saying something like this is just bad writing to me. This is an episode on Harper no? This feels like a pretty important point for her character.

In any case, we can agree to disagree I guess.