Weasel_Face

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Ok...finished DITLO...and the character interactions are, decent I guess...but overall it makes no sense. Katie is just meeting Harper as the compromise from Charles...but its only a day after MC stood up to charles so that conversation hasn't taken place yet...but Nat is doing tryouts "tomorrow" and has already been in negotiations to join the cheer squad...which doesn't happen till shortly before the bowling game...but they are in the "Final Home" and everyone is walking around naked and comfortable with it (at least upstairs)...which doesn't happen till after the bowling incident and Riker is already gone, by that time Harp and Nat are spending the night at the house with the MC and Harp is sleeping better


And as I remember it the MC told Harp why he chose her and stood up for her basically right after he did it.

Yeah. Not only does this minigame thing seem like a dissection of the main story, but it doesn't even fit the main story at all...its jumbled and confused and feels like someone else came in and randomly took chunks of the main game without regard to context or continuity and mashed it together to create a random story featuring some characters from BD's well followed game.

And the file size makes absolutely no sense for such an extremely short "game"...especially one with no audio and no animation

And the censoring is just absurd.

Not a fan of the DITLO project. Hope the main game gets some updates soon...even if they are small updates...and those updates don't completely break the already established story like this DITLO does.
I would be cool with ditlo if Harp stayed fully clothed, in undies or pj's and just let it flow, instead, the censorship is just an insult to our intelligence! If you don't want to reveal her prior to the allotted time in the main game, then do it scantily clad instead of this eyesore... :mad::poop::mad:
 

Wen I Say

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'DITLO' is doing just that, fleshing out Harper's story and character. And the rage here is huge as you can see, people don't want that. They want to see the mc fucking 10 different girls, that's what made WVM so popular the huge number of women.
.......this could have just been added to the main game and done in a scene or two, also seeing how harper is the mc's basketball coach and the mc hasn't even played a game yet why the fuck does her character need more depth? Do you know what actually needs to be fleshed out? The damn story plot! Because your right the name of the game is to catch em all and it's just a wank fest even the damn assistant has a better plot than this and that game is smut incarnate.
 
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code991

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Well i guess its time to stop following this. Ill end my patreon as well for now. Ill check back later this year or maybe next year. I really dont like when supposedly big updates get split into god knows how many small releases that probably will only add 10-20 minutes of gameplay at a time.

Also the mini game with Harper ... censored? Really? Not to mention that it should have probably been added to the main game thus maybe avoiding the (stupid) "need" to censor ...

Anyway. Im sorry for what the dev is going through his RL (if any of it is true, its not always the case with devs around here as we all know) and hope for things to get better soon™

Imo if things are as rough as he says they are, put the game on hold at least, pause the patreon payments for a month and see how things are. I prefer that as opposed to this whole delaying, splitting updates (which we dont know if he will be able to do anyway) and making censored mini games that should have been in the main game ...

My 2 cents anyway.
Ive been a supporter for this game and the dev for a while now but even i have some limits. Hopefully things will get better soon™ and we can resume having a good time with the game.
 
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Sotak

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I would be cool with ditlo if Harp stayed fully clothed, in undies or pj's and just let it flow, instead, the censorship is just an insult to our intelligence! If you don't want to reveal her prior to the allotted time in the main game, then do it scantily clad instead of this eyesore... :mad::poop::mad:
I would prefer to not have this side story in the first place confusing everything (to say nothing of the censoring). It doesn't even fit the main story as it is, and if the main game is going to change to make it fit (which I hope not, but am hearing that it will) then these little "teasers" taken out of a story that we haven't even seen yet are just annoying, aggravating, and stupid...and will likely cost the dev players (if not subscribers) in the long run. I liked the game as it was...as did many of us...and while I recognize that the dev may be going through some stuff personally, I would rather wait for him to resolve that and get back to the game than to have this shit show.
 

kameohawk

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Dev woke up that a new update was due, but saw there was nothing to release. So he made up a side story. To appease the supporters.
I don't think that's the case. I mean, it's possible but to say there's so many renders done and then spend another six months doing nothing would sully his rep. And he did release the wee side project, although whether that appeased his patrons or simply pissed them off I'm less sure of. The opinion on here tends to be negative but I would bet money on patron and discord being quite favourable as they tend to be filled with people that'll support the dev regardless (as anyone who doesn't will have told them to ram it and left)
 

Sotak

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And to address all this talk about "fleshing out characters"...in my opinion they were being fleshed out quite nicely. Perhaps somewhat slowly in a couple cases, but the process fit with the story as it progressed. IF this side story is meant to do that (which I doubt) then its a piss poor way to do it...it should flow naturally as part of the main story. However, it is my belief that this side story shit is an attempt to tease players and string us along...to "appease" us...so we don't leave the game while the dev guts everything and makes a whole new story...that way when we get the main game updates again we won't be as pissed when its just starting the story all over and there isn't any actual NEW stuff, but just old stuff made differently.
 
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Sotak

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a semi steady update schedule and fans will forgive a lot
I would have been fine even if the updates were once a year...lots of other games and updates to play in the meantime. I think its less about the "fans" and more about the "contributors" considering that not all players are paying to play. But in also think he is going to loose many contributors with all of this anyway.
 
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I don't think that's the case. I mean, it's possible but to say there's so many renders done and then spend another six months doing nothing would sully his rep. And he did release the wee side project, although whether that appeased his patrons or simply pissed them off I'm less sure of. The opinion on here tends to be negative but I would bet money on patron and discord being quite favourable as they tend to be filled with people that'll support the dev regardless (as anyone who doesn't will have told them to ram it and left)
I think this big update 2000K render is probably all smoke and mirrors. He has been telling his supporters for months, that he has been working on it. And he is going back and redoing stuff to extend these delays.

Then the latest news is his grandfather dies and he goes into a mental coma again and tells people in one breath, that he will release the big update and take some time off to clear his head. Then in the next breath he says that he is going to be working on birthday renders and character sheets. Then a 3rd breath he says he's going to drop some mini game with only 167 renders that has nothing to do with the main story or game and none of his supporters knew about until last minute.

It's like people support you because you are making game A. People are not supporting him to make game B.

Now he wants to say he is going to break the big 2000K render into chunks. Like if anyone can't tell that the guy is either lying to people or conning people at this point is beyond me?

I think he needs to lose half of his supporters for him to stop with these excuses. Because he is sounding like the kid that cried wolf too many times, that when there was an actual wolf, no one believed the boy and he got eaten by mr wolfie.
 

kameohawk

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I think this big update 2000K render is probably all smoke and mirrors. He has been telling his supporters for months, that he has been working on it. And he is going back and redoing stuff to extend these delays.

Then the latest news is his grandfather dies and he goes into a mental coma again and tells people in one breath, that he will release the big update and take some time off to clear his head. Then in the next breath he says that he is going to be working on birthday renders and character sheets. Then a 3rd breath he says he's going to drop some mini game with only 167 renders that has nothing to do with the main story or game and none of his supporters knew about until last minute.

It's like people support you because you are making game A. People are not supporting him to make game B.

Now he wants to say he is going to break the big 2000K render into chunks. Like if anyone can't tell that the guy is either lying to people or conning people at this point is beyond me?

I think he needs to lose half of his supporters for him to stop with these excuses. Because he is sounding like the kid that cried wolf too many times, that when there was an actual wolf, no one believed the boy and he got eaten by mr wolfie.
I'm inclined to agree simply because the argument for having them and not releasing them is hilarious in its absurdity.
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Cickic

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I remember back when BD was releasing updates every week and everyone was telling him it'll burn him out. He said it wouldn't because he loves doing it. I think he's officially burnt.
 

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I remember back when BD was releasing updates every week and everyone was telling him it'll burn him out. He said it wouldn't because he loves doing it. I think he's officially burnt.
Yep, it was something I remember bringing up a few times for sure because I've known enough people who try to run D&D campaigns or write stories who would try to go all in and push themselves only to burn out hard and eventually drop the project/game all together because they did so much early on without pacing themselves and spreading everything out for a better flow.
 
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I must confess, I read this new update from him as: I promised a lot, but didnt do it, so now Im gonna release small updates over time, to give myself time to do the work and hide that I didnt do it before. But give me some time to do even that, cause I actually havent done anything at all.

I really do like this game, gave it a great review, and I stand by that... But the dev is at -1 rating atm. I simply dont trust him anymore. Too many excuses, to many times with nonsensical delays.
Shit happens to everyone. But this guy seems to have everything under the sun happen to him, on top of handling it extremely poorly.
Im chronicly depressed, and have more diagnosies with it. Including a 0 stress tolerance. Any changes in my life, can tilt me the fuck out. But I dont EVER let it effect my work, at any point. Because, priorities. I have a depressed friend live with me in my house to share expenses, and his priorities are like this dev. Things that dont get him out of his rut. Selfindulgent in his misery and full of excuses. Cant even keep a 8 hour a week job (2x4 hours work days), because of it. But can easily be active 80 hours a week with (active and social) hobbies and helping others, just not himself. I went to the emergency room, monday last week. Went back to work next day. Wednesday my friends mom burned down her kitchen, she is now occupying our sofa and livingroom untill she can return. Im still at work. She cut herself on my kitchen-knifes because i keep them ultra sharp (used to work in food business), and had to go to the emergency room thursday. Sat there with her untill 3am before it got fixed. I still went to work the day after. Everything in my life is fucked up atm, And I still go to work, because priorities. My friend who has bad priorities, lives for endorfin kicks. So he doesnt do anything that doesnt give him a little kick. Fastfood, no chores, gaming, flirting. Living by three rules unconcioucsly (does it give a kick, is it easy, is it safe and something I know) What ever he can to feel alive for three seconds, and not a though outside of that. And then he gets even more depressed by the guilt of not doing what he should have done. Im suspecting this dev is pretty much the same, but he reached a state where the income is a given in his mind, and the work doesnt give endorfines anymore. It became an every day chore, and he neglects it heavily.
I see the same excuses in him as I do in my roommate. And the same result. So yeah, I dont trust the dev anymore, and I suspect an abandoned tag in the future.
 
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