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Per BDs discord server:

Braindrop
Yesterday at 9:24 PM

Nah we're not doing this.
I get the frustration but we're not taking it that far here.
If you don't believe me then leave. I do not want you here.
(Banned the offenders so I look silly with that message)

Yeah, I was one of the people who got banned. Dude is upset that people are reasonably doubtful. He's done absolutely nothing to gain any trust and just thinks his word is good enough when he lies all the time.

I’m the one that got banned lol.
That was after someone asked when the next update it, I answered, summarized, “if BD is back to his old shenanigans, then could be half year/full year. Who knows if he’s even in hospital, boy cries wolf constantly with different excuses each time, best case scenario we get 300 renders in March”
Same. A completely reasonable response given his history. We were actually quite generous with our estimates. He's just worried people will start unsubscribing if they get told the truth instead of listen to his lies. Weird how he has been in the "hospital" all this time ignoring messages but now that people are calling him out he's here to silence them.
 

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I never understood this fixation on the exibition game, the basketball is just a background story for the character... no one really plays this game for the basketball....
He's not fixated on anything; he just uses that as an excuse not to work. He's been claiming the be fixated on this all year. There are plenty of scenes where basketball is getting played in the game. You go against Skye, you play against Damian, you have a shootout against Kenji, and there are plenty of two on twos. He isn't incapable of depicting the game being played, he just needs an excuse to not release any future updates, so he created this imaginary wall that is the infamous "exhibition game" that is gatekeeping the rest of the game.
 

ktunga

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It's sad that this game will never get finished. By far one of the best games on this site. Really wish Braindrop would hire more developers and stick around to help and quality check what they make, but I know that Braindrop is too greedy and lazy to do any of that. Add onto this that his Discord is full of people that just eat up every lie he tells them and worship him as a messiah.
i stated that when his granpa passed away and i got smashed by many of the trolls here and in the patron so for me was easy i stop the pledge and ia was a big one so more money for me but the true is that he cant work and he do this kind of job bcs his work ethics suckx ,imagine him working a normal 9 hrs job ....with all his excuses he will be out of job in seconds and even in a game dev company with all the lucj he will be out bcs he can comitee to be criticized so .....nothing new over here
 

karumi56

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I recently replayed WVM and actually came to the conclusion that it's honestly not that good like real talk 6/10 maybe.... What made WVM so likable, in my opinion, was the setting and the promise it showed for expansion. The characters are bland and are as deep as paper and the plot is a work in progress at best...
This is a trap that a lot of of VNs here fall into when they allow patrons to create characters and end up with a bloated cast of paper thin caricatures. When you start naming your characters colors to match their appearance, you know the inspiration well has run dry.
This game really started to crater when BD got angry at criticism and doubled down on the stuff that people were hating (duck face, bru bru, etc.) It's in the earlier mind drops if you're curious to go back and read them.

My suggestion for BD is to instead of the DITLO stuff as a side project (which did not seem to receive a very positive reaction), maybe work on a different side project to recharge his mojo. Hopefully that will get his head back in the game and inspire him to continue WMV when he feels the inclination.
 

Wen I Say

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My suggestion for BD is to instead of the DITLO stuff as a side project (which did not seem to receive a very positive reaction), maybe work on a different side project to recharge his mojo. Hopefully that will get his head back in the game and inspire him to continue WMV when he feels the inclination.
He hasn't felt the inclination in almost 2 years so I'm not holding out hope for that.
 

YepperCause

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That logic is silly to me but if that's your criteria then you do you.
"People prefer shit every day to steak once a week"-'90s internet proverb.

DITLO stuff as a side project (which did not seem to receive a very positive reaction)
The DITLO: Harper reaction is when this forum turned against BD. Seriously, go back to the page on this thread before it was posted and almost all comments are positive. The page after, almost all comments are negative.
 

aaachris

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"People prefer shit every day to steak once a week"-'90s internet proverb.
Enjoy the milking steak BD is going put out next june maybe.
With zero accountablity from devs side, longer developement time speaks more about deliberately delaying after they get big.
 

karumi56

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I never understood this fixation on the exibition game, the basketball is just a background story for the character... no one really plays this game for the basketball....
I think the fixation on the exhibition game was by some supporters of the game (search in this thread for "exhibition game" and you'll see the reams of it). I think BD probably had an idea in his head on what he wanted to show for the first actual basketball game, and ended up not being able to do it. This lead to missed deadlines, more excuses, etc.

The previous example of this was the pool party scene, which basically led to a year of delays with BD "re-working it" and redoing the renders (supposedly). The end product was pretty terrible (purple water, nonsensical matching outfits, etc.)

The basketball backstory is already so silly, I'm not looking forward to whatever "dramatic event" that is likely planned to take place during the game. I'd much rather just some simple character development of the girls in the harem. :rolleyes:
 

YepperCause

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He'd definitely already fallen off from his consistent update schedule and he'd been off it for months by the time DITLO: Harper came out. He put out basically the entire game between 2019 and the end of 2020 and since then we've gotten two updates and one DITLO. But until DITLO came out, this forum was still almost unanimously supportive of BD. Actually kind of impressive how many people he pissed off and how fast with that release.
 
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jish55

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I feel the real dev problems not related to rl stuff (because I do believe the stuff that happened in 2020 and the start of 2021 were legit) was when BD announced he was working on a remake of the first 10 days, which I had been voicing my concerns early on. I feel that that alone started to take away a lot of his mojo where because he was splitting his time between the remake and new updates, he started to fall behind and freak out. This is when he most likely started making the posts where he started making excuses to try and make it seem like bad things kept happening, which did get a lot of people's sympathy until he released DITLO instead of the mega updated he'd promised a good 6 months prior.
 

juan palote

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It wasn't sunshine and daisies before DITLO. There had already been 2 years of the excuse cycle by then. DITLO just made a lot of the remainder of people open their eyes a bit and realize the game's development was indeed a shit show. I put it "delicately" because there is even now a die-hard group of BD followers who just face palm anything they perceive as negative.
DITLO was the confirmation for everyone that still believed Braindrop that the 2k render update that was supposedly ready didnt exist. You dont make a whole stand alone episode before fleshing out the 2k render update you supposedly have
 

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DITLO was the confirmation for everyone that still believed Braindrop that the 2k render update that was supposedly ready didnt exist. You dont make a whole stand alone episode before fleshing out the 2k render update you supposedly have
Ditlo was a bit of a failure. Also it being censored didn't help. But it looked like he quickly rendered about 167 renders really quickly to shut his supporters up and to have an excuse to charge them for that month.

From what I gathered from his Braindrops, he was supposed to release an update on the 19th of November. November 19th comes around and he says he needs another week. The 25th comes around and now we are in limbo once again. Not sure when there will be another update. He doesn't update on his patreon but people find out he has been in the hospital.

Okay so let me get this straight, he is able to login in Discord and post but he isn't able to get onto Patreon? I can log into my Patreon account from my phone so??

The issue is this isn't his first excuse. They keep adding up. It happens too much especially when there is an update. He makes these promises while at the same time charging his supporters with an excuse that he has been working hard on this basketball game and it was causing his stress for the year thinking about it. Back in July I think is when I stopped coming on here. He wasn't talking about any basketball game that he was stressing over.

So I feel BD is a liar. I mean he could tell me that snow is white and I wouldn't believe him. It's sad really because he is the one has proven to be unreliable.

Do you know most people who get the flu don't go to the hospital. They just get some orange juice and make chicken soup and get a box of tissue paper. Also do you know how expensive it is to go to the hospital. I don't know what sort of insurance he has but a trip to the doctors office to be told that you have the flu isn't cheap. Also getting an appedix removal can cost around 1500 dollars. Hopital stay can rack up the medical bills. Again not sure what sort of insurance has but he still needs to pay a premium for health coverage etc. Unless he is under medicaid or whatever. But still he took a common sickness that happens this time a year and use it as an excuse. Add in the appendix removal and we have another delay of his so-called promised release.

The last big update was promised to be in April, he posted on his patreon it would be May. Then he went silent and people on his discord found out that his grandfather passed away. Whether it is true or not, it seems too convenient for any time he makes a promise that some national emergency occurs.

People need to read between the lines of his Braindrops and you will find a pattern. You will also see that the character of Mackenzie and Braindrop are in fact the same person.

So now we will get another wave of Braindrop banning people on his discord for calling him out on his BS. Also removing some of his patreons. Which in reality it is his fault. He just needs to be honest. Just tell people you got nothing and call it a day. I also love how he turns the backlash as a personal attack. Well, if you stopped lying and making promises or updates that you can't keep, maybe just maybe people wouldn't call you out on it.

At this point I don't care about his autobiography speeches or excuses. I just want to see results. Given the decline of this vn I just don't see this happening. I think he either walks away or gets other people to help work on the game. But knowing that he doesn't work well with others, it would be better just to move on to other games and developers who are more responsible.
 

artofwar

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You know, thinking about it, I have never once seen a dev/vn that devolved to this level manage to pick their asses up and get back to a decent release cadence. I don't think I've seen one that's been completed, to be honest. I've seen a couple that got put way on the backburner then hastily 'completed' out of nowhere, but they didn't even approach this level of bullshittery.

To anyone that is *still* hanging on, believing that brainderp will come back swinging in full form: Keep waiting, I'm sure it's just around the corner. Make sure to keep that patreon subscribed too, you deserve it!
 

Steinchen

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lol i am really buffed now how it can be that i wrote something here about braindrop banning some of his supporters for calling him out,including me that has been deleted twice for violating rule no 1 and trolling now.

and now look at the last 5 or 6 pages here and nobody seems to care?? WTF??? :unsure::unsure:
 
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el_rayan07

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Ditlo was a bit of a failure. Also it being censored didn't help. But it looked like he quickly rendered about 167 renders really quickly to shut his supporters up and to have an excuse to charge them for that month.

From what I gathered from his Braindrops, he was supposed to release an update on the 19th of November. November 19th comes around and he says he needs another week. The 25th comes around and now we are in limbo once again. Not sure when there will be another update. He doesn't update on his patreon but people find out he has been in the hospital.

Okay so let me get this straight, he is able to login in Discord and post but he isn't able to get onto Patreon? I can log into my Patreon account from my phone so??

The issue is this isn't his first excuse. They keep adding up. It happens too much especially when there is an update. He makes these promises while at the same time charging his supporters with an excuse that he has been working hard on this basketball game and it was causing his stress for the year thinking about it. Back in July I think is when I stopped coming on here. He wasn't talking about any basketball game that he was stressing over.

So I feel BD is a liar. I mean he could tell me that snow is white and I wouldn't believe him. It's sad really because he is the one has proven to be unreliable.

Do you know most people who get the flu don't go to the hospital. They just get some orange juice and make chicken soup and get a box of tissue paper. Also do you know how expensive it is to go to the hospital. I don't know what sort of insurance he has but a trip to the doctors office to be told that you have the flu isn't cheap. Also getting an appedix removal can cost around 1500 dollars. Hopital stay can rack up the medical bills. Again not sure what sort of insurance has but he still needs to pay a premium for health coverage etc. Unless he is under medicaid or whatever. But still he took a common sickness that happens this time a year and use it as an excuse. Add in the appendix removal and we have another delay of his so-called promised release.

The last big update was promised to be in April, he posted on his patreon it would be May. Then he went silent and people on his discord found out that his grandfather passed away. Whether it is true or not, it seems too convenient for any time he makes a promise that some national emergency occurs.

People need to read between the lines of his Braindrops and you will find a pattern. You will also see that the character of Mackenzie and Braindrop are in fact the same person.

So now we will get another wave of Braindrop banning people on his discord for calling him out on his BS. Also removing some of his patreons. Which in reality it is his fault. He just needs to be honest. Just tell people you got nothing and call it a day. I also love how he turns the backlash as a personal attack. Well, if you stopped lying and making promises or updates that you can't keep, maybe just maybe people wouldn't call you out on it.

At this point I don't care about his autobiography speeches or excuses. I just want to see results. Given the decline of this vn I just don't see this happening. I think he either walks away or gets other people to help work on the game. But knowing that he doesn't work well with others, it would be better just to move on to other games and developers who are more responsible.
wow that a lot of text XD
 
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