VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch. 1 Ep. 13 B5] [Braindrop]

[ktunga]

In the current version, Skye hasn't mentioned any interest or lack of interest in sex, they just haven't mentioned it. Depending on what gender or genders Skye is attracted to, Mac and Lee would make the most sense.

If Skyee is only into other guys, We/MC shouldn't have any sex scenes with them. Because we are straight.
If Skyee is only into women, we do not qualify to have any sex scenes with them.
If Skyee is bisexual, into all genders, the most I think would work would be us having a threesome with them and a girl. This I feel would be very messy and would need to be written and handled very well. We can have MC open to penis play with his trans girlfriend, as we should, but despite all appearances Skyee is a guy, so anything we would potentially do to or with them is being done to a guy.

Giving head to Shauna is going down on a girl. Giving head to Skyee, is going down on a guy.
If we wouldn't go down on any other guy, we shouldn't go down on Skyee.

hi i dont unnderstund your reasoning here ,maybe bcs im not bi or with any motivation or reasons to be a troll or to trolling you but ......first when you say you are bisexual you dont say if you are male or female or both,you need to understand that this is harem game in a sub real world with unreal ppl imagined by a guy who you and i dont know anything about him [only he doesnt want incest in his game but tease us alot bcs he believe in a perfect life]so i cant imagine your reasoning bcs for me is very easy if you are trapped in a male or female body and you feel and behave like the opposite i will believe it but the only moement skye behave like a male in a female body was him showing to the mc a big ass female.......and she explain after wards that she only do that bcs she feels at ease with mc so i dunno if we can say 100% if skye is not a female bcs we dont have any other info about him or her ,last one ....mc react to skye bcs for him even if she o he says she or he is a male in a womans body mc react like skye is a woman bcswell skye have a beautiful body and behave nice towards mc so for bd is easy this way ,.
maybe skye is like this bcs he or she doesnt know other kind of ppl for him is easy behave like male bcs ppl is idiotic and behave bad towards him and bcs his past [that we dont know nothing about] he dont know to baheve different towards mc and he beggins to like him alot and i dont think bd will not take this path with mc and skye ,.....i know isnt the best way to move to a some realtionship with skye but for the ppl who love harem games and already have a bad take on the incest thing well i see like another realtionship going forward for the mc

 

[grim019]

Skye with Mac or Lee does not make sense. Due to the fact Skye has a female body. Mac or Lee would prefer a male body.

 

[S1nsational]

hi i dont unnderstund your reasoning here ,maybe bcs im not bi or with any motivation or reasons to be a troll or to trolling you but ......first when you say you are bisexual you dont say if you are male or female or both,you need to understand that this is harem game in a sub real world with unreal ppl imagined by a guy who you and i dont know anything about him [only he doesnt want incest in his game but tease us alot bcs he believe in a perfect life]so i cant imagine your reasoning bcs for me is very easy if you are trapped in a male or female body and you feel and behave like the opposite i will believe it but the only moement skye behave like a male in a female body was him showing to the mc a big ass female.......and she explain after wards that she only do that bcs she feels at ease with mc so i dunno if we can say 100% if skye is not a female bcs we dont have any other info about him or her ,last one ....mc react to skye bcs for him even if she o he says she or he is a male in a womans body mc react like skye is a woman bcswell skye have a beautiful body and behave nice towards mc so for bd is easy this way ,.
maybe skye is like this bcs he or she doesnt know other kind of ppl for him is easy behave like male bcs ppl is idiotic and behave bad towards him and bcs his past [that we dont know nothing about] he dont know to baheve different towards mc and he beggins to like him alot and i dont think bd will not take this path with mc and skye ,.....i know isnt the best way to move to a some realtionship with skye but for the ppl who love harem games and already have a bad take on the incest thing well i see like another realtionship going forward for the mc

I myself, and male and bisexual, but that's somewhat beside the point regarding the genders and sexualities of the characters in the game.

The player character, is straight. There's nothing I can do about that for better or worse.

Skyee says they're a guy, that's literally all we need. You can't judge anyones gender on their behavior. I find actual sports incredibly boring and dull, I can't stand them. I also hate beer, the very smell of it turns my stomach. Those are two things I hate that most men are expected to love. The fact I don't love them doesn't make me any less a man.

Skyee has no reason to hide their body in the changing room or anywhere else. They're a man in the mens changing room, the vast majority of men would have equally as little getting naked like they did.

Skye has been behaving like a guy the entire time. Certainly as much as any of the other guys in the game.

Expecting anything else is going very heavily into gender sterotypes, which is just a terrible for writing as it is for reality.

 

[RegAdd]

If Skyee is only into other guys, We/MC shouldn't have any sex scenes with them. Because we are straight.

For the sake of argument, this makes no logical sense.

If Skye is only into other guys, the MC's heterosexuality doesn't prevent them from hooking up. If a transman who identifies as gay for men is still biologically and visibly female, a completely heterosexual man can still be attracted to him. The heterosexual man is attracted to the female body. The MC's sexual orientation is heterosexual, not heterogendered.

I personally know a transwoman who identifies as gay for women. Pre-op, her girlfriends were all heterosexual. She had a man's body and features. Post-op, her girlfriends are all lesbian or bisexual, because she no longer has male attributes.

 

[Master of Puppets]

Wow.

Skye has been behaving like a guy the entire time.

Then says that gender stereotypes are terrible. What does that say about you then?

 

[Individual]

I myself, and male and bisexual, but that's somewhat beside the point regarding the genders and sexualities of the characters in the game.

The player character, is straight. There's nothing I can do about that for better or worse.

Skyee says they're a guy, that's literally all we need. You can't judge anyones gender on their behavior. I find actual sports incredibly boring and dull, I can't stand them. I also hate beer, the very smell of it turns my stomach. Those are two things I hate that most men are expected to love. The fact I don't love them doesn't make me any less a man.

Skyee has no reason to hide their body in the changing room or anywhere else. They're a man in the mens changing room, the vast majority of men would have equally as little getting naked like they did.

Skye has been behaving like a guy the entire time. Certainly as much as any of the other guys in the game.

Expecting anything else is going very heavily into gender sterotypes, which is just a terrible for writing as it is for reality.

This argument is stupid. Skye is female in every aspect possible despite the way she idenitifies. She doesn't count as a man. You're just being weird and making a non-argument.

 

[FreshRevenge]

I myself, and male and bisexual, but that's somewhat beside the point regarding the genders and sexualities of the characters in the game.

The player character, is straight. There's nothing I can do about that for better or worse.

Skyee says they're a guy, that's literally all we need. You can't judge anyones gender on their behavior. I find actual sports incredibly boring and dull, I can't stand them. I also hate beer, the very smell of it turns my stomach. Those are two things I hate that most men are expected to love. The fact I don't love them doesn't make me any less a man.

Skyee has no reason to hide their body in the changing room or anywhere else. They're a man in the mens changing room, the vast majority of men would have equally as little getting naked like they did.

Skye has been behaving like a guy the entire time. Certainly as much as any of the other guys in the game.

Expecting anything else is going very heavily into gender sterotypes, which is just a terrible for writing as it is for reality.

No male is going to object to a biological female who claims that they are male undressing in front of them. The fact that Skye still has a vagina and breasts that women have is the only reason why most people are not bothered by it.

Yet you stick a transgender woman with male body parts and let that person undress in front of a locker room of real women that menstruate. You are going to have problems.

People can live in a fantasy in a game, but that kind of behavior doesn't fly in the real world.

 

[GingerbreadMan]

In the current version, Skye hasn't mentioned any interest or lack of interest in sex, they just haven't mentioned it. Depending on what gender or genders Skye is attracted to, Mac and Lee would make the most sense.

If Skyee is only into other guys, We/MC shouldn't have any sex scenes with them. Because we are straight.
If Skyee is only into women, we do not qualify to have any sex scenes with them.
If Skyee is bisexual, into all genders, the most I think would work would be us having a threesome with them and a girl. This I feel would be very messy and would need to be written and handled very well. We can have MC open to penis play with his trans girlfriend, as we should, but despite all appearances Skyee is a guy, so anything we would potentially do to or with them is being done to a guy.

Giving head to Shauna is going down on a girl. Giving head to Skyee, is going down on a guy.
If we wouldn't go down on any other guy, we shouldn't go down on Skyee.

If you walked past Skye on the street, not knowing him, and were attracted to him, what would you think?
Would you think to be attracted to a woman or to a man?

I'd think the former. Regardless of how he identifies, I'd be attracted to his female form. The same way I'd be attracted to Shauna and lose interest in her/him if they revealed a dick.

So with Skye identifying as a male and never getting an op, I'd see no problem with him being in a relationship with a straight guy if Skye was into him (making Skye gay/bisexual). I mean there might be, but not for this reason.

 

[PussyDelendaEst]

When's the optional trans route patch coming to this thread? Society hasn't figured it out yet guys, just fuck who you want too and be happy! Atleast it's civil.

 

[derpmcderp]

No male is going to object to a biological female who claims that they are male undressing in front of them. The fact that Skye still has a vagina and breasts that women have is the only reason why most people are not bothered by it.

Yet you stick a transgender woman with male body parts and let that person undress in front of a locker room of real women that menstruate. You are going to have problems.

People can live in a fantasy in a game, but that kind of behavior doesn't fly in the real world.

I mean, that is exactly the point of playing a game as opposed to being in the real world. This isn't the real world, and whatever the writer chooses can in a sense affect negatively a part of his audience by not validating the identity. I'm not a fan of telling people what they can and can't say in art, and never will be. But art doesn't usually comport perfectly to real life, current societal norms, or anything other than what suits it narratively. That's part of what makes art engaging. The MC is not real - none of these people are people. They don't exist in real life. They exist in this fiction. But this fiction can be used to tell truths and validate perspectives that struggle for validation in the real world.

In my opinion, it's more fun and interesting to engage with concepts you don't agree with. Even if something is explicitly telling you that you must have certain values or beliefs, that doesn't make it so. And engaging with values and beliefs you don't hold can give you a more nuanced perspective AND strengthen your core beliefs at the same time. It's a thought exercise if you let it be.

Maybe it's just me, but I find it's easier to be compassionate and a more all around good person in real life from engaging in these thought exercises because it enriches your ability to empathize with people who are not like you.

 

[Wen I Say]

Giving head to Shauna is going down on a girl. Giving head to Skyee, is going down on a guy.
If we wouldn't go down on any other guy, we shouldn't go down on Skyee.

Bruh wtf?

 

[Deleted member 4367918]

This game could have been a lot better if the girlfriend wasn't such a jerk and didn't agree to share her boyfriend with other girls. In other words, cheating instead of sharing. That said, her tranny friend is hot as hell.

 

[ThaDude1977]

In the current version, Skye hasn't mentioned any interest or lack of interest in sex, they just haven't mentioned it. Depending on what gender or genders Skye is attracted to, Mac and Lee would make the most sense.

If Skyee is only into other guys, We/MC shouldn't have any sex scenes with them. Because we are straight.
If Skyee is only into women, we do not qualify to have any sex scenes with them.
If Skyee is bisexual, into all genders, the most I think would work would be us having a threesome with them and a girl. This I feel would be very messy and would need to be written and handled very well. We can have MC open to penis play with his trans girlfriend, as we should, but despite all appearances Skyee is a guy, so anything we would potentially do to or with them is being done to a guy.

Giving head to Shauna is going down on a girl. Giving head to Skyee, is going down on a guy.
If we wouldn't go down on any other guy, we shouldn't go down on Skyee.

If you go with the 3rd option skye being bisexual and having a 3some. You would have to add a sharing tag . And i don't think that would go well with most players. I would bet there is only a handful of people that play with the trans route. Just my opinion not a fact.

 

[ThaDude1977]

My thoughts and opinion. Having sex with a guy that self identifies as a woman is gay. Having sex with a woman that identifies as a man not gay. Having sex with a Futa/female with a dick is not gay as long as you don't fool with the dick and you fucking her not her fucking you. You can identify as what ever you want but that doesn't make you one. If i identify as a horse does that make me one? No. I'll be respectful to what people want to be identify as. If you are a male and identify as a female i'll be respectful and treat you as one but if you wanna fuck i'm gonna decline because that's gay and i'm straight.

 

[S1nsational]

If you go with the 3rd option skye being bisexual and having a 3some. You would have to add a sharing tag . And i don't think that would go well with most players. I would bet there is only a handful of people that play with the trans route. Just my opinion not a fact.

Sharing it might well be, but like most kinks in most games, I wouldn't want it to be mandatory. I hate NTR as much was the next person, but I don't mind it being in games when it's very much avoidable and preventable. Same with other things I'm not into.

I'd say a surprising number of people play the trans route. I'd say most of them are just quiet about it.

 

[ThaDude1977]

Sharing it might well be, but like most kinks in most games, I wouldn't want it to be mandatory. I hate NTR as much was the next person, but I don't mind it being in games when it's very much avoidable and preventable. Same with other things I'm not into.

I'd say a surprising number of people play the trans route. I'd say most of them are just quiet about it.

But really doesn't go with the theme of the story. I'm sure there is several people that are open minded enough to let that happen. But i would say the majority of people would not. And at the state this VN is in people are dropping off because of slow updates i would be willing to bet if add sharing to the tags would kill it all together. Only way to add Skye to the mix is with trans off and added as a li that way. And a lot of ppl would consider another dick in the harem as sharing.

 

[S1nsational]

But really doesn't go with the theme of the story. I'm sure there is several people that are open minded enough to let that happen. But i would say the majority of people would not. And at the state this VN is in people are dropping off because of slow updates i would be willing to bet if add sharing to the tags would kill it all together. Only way to add Skye to the mix is with trans off and added as a li that way. And a lot of ppl would consider another dick in the harem as sharing.

I never said sharing should be added, in fact, I'm pretty sure my point in one of my comments originally was that we shouldn't be having sex with Skye at all unless it was under certain conditions. Those conditions will never be met and so we should never be having sex with them.

Thankfully, someone and I can't remember who, replied showing that Skye has mentioned his own complete lack of interest in sex, so thankfully we won't have to worry about sex with them at all.

Also, so much drama could be avoided if more devs when adding to the genre tags explicitly stated what is optional and avoidable, so people know what is and isn't forced on them before trying the game.

 

[ThaDude1977]

I never said sharing should be added, in fact, I'm pretty sure my point in one of my comments originally was that we shouldn't be having sex with Skye at all unless it was under certain conditions. Those conditions will never be met and so we should never be having sex with them.

Thankfully, someone and I can't remember who, replied showing that Skye has mentioned his own complete lack of interest in sex, so thankfully we won't have to worry about sex with them at all.

Also, so much drama could be avoided if more devs when adding to the genre tags explicitly stated what is optional and avoidable, so people know what is and isn't forced on them before trying the game.

Didn't mean to imply that i was just chit chatting about the topic is all. To be fair tho i wouldn't mind skye if the trans was turned off like with Shauna. As long as skye left my women alone lol. I'm glad the dev has not added to much les/bi content to the game.

 

[S1nsational]

Didn't mean to imply that i was just chit chatting about the topic is all. To be fair tho i wouldn't mind skye if the trans was turned off like with Shauna. As long as skye left my women alone lol. I'm glad the dev has not added to much les/bi content to the game.

You're fine.

I have no issues with Skyee one way or the other. I do find all the well written trans characters much more interesting than if they were cis.

I'd actually like for there to be more les/bi content. It's not very clear yet, but one of our bisexual girlfriends potentional girlfriends is lesbian, but she might be bi. Will be interesting to see what happens there, because while they'd both be girls, it would still be sharing. Like we give her permission to date us and the other girl at the same time.

 

[ThaDude1977]

You're fine.

I have no issues with Skyee one way or the other. I do find all the well written trans characters much more interesting than if they were cis.

I'd actually like for there to be more les/bi content. It's not very clear yet, but one of our bisexual girlfriends potentional girlfriends is lesbian, but she might be bi. Will be interesting to see what happens there, because while they'd both be girls, it would still be sharing. Like we give her permission to date us and the other girl at the same time.

As long as it is avoidable i don't care either but i'm not into sharing my women wether they be male or female or futa for that matter. I don't mind 3somes as long as they are like the ones we've seen so far with shauna and jamie. Which there has been very little far as les/bi action between the 2 so far. And hope it stays that way.