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FatGiant

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Jan 7, 2022
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Yp there is high sexual tension :cool:
I'm not privy to the Dev thoughts, but from all indications so far, there will be NO incest, not even with the adoptive (surrogate) mother.

That doesn't mean that BD can't change his mind, I truly, truly doubt it. Why? Patreon is his job. That's his moneymaker. He will not do anything to jeopardize that, and with the rules imposed on Patreon by the payment processors, that Patreon has to enforce under penalty of litigation and financial troubles, incest is NOT going to happen. Unless those rules change (wouldn't bet on it).

I know that you are all well informed and all that, but this is way bigger than just making a few scenes with this character or another. For him to please all of us that enjoy that content, he would have to drop all income from Patreon, without any real payoff for doing it. Just go to his patreon page and see how much we are talking about here, and ask yourselves if you'd do it, I don't need to think I wouldn't even consider it.

Peace :)
 

derpmcderp

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May 30, 2020
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i disagree, making it a sandbox would help the game alot. i think you are confusing bad sandbox games. that either dont make use of its gameplay, or force terrible grinding.

Like i said already, to me, it would fix the problem with the amount of girls, as it would give each of them a better pacing. and a road to develop them(and the story).

and i highly doubt the game would be worse than it already is. with this directionless, kinetic novel just keep the button held to progress.
I think making it a sandbox game would lose a significant portion of the audience, myself included. The format almost never adds complexity in a good and engaging way, it's almost always confusing, slower, and grindy for no good reason. Taste aside, from a pure development standpoint, the amount of complexity added if BD can't literally go in a straight line narratively would almost assure we never saw another update again.
 

Reniere

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Aug 5, 2019
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If this was to ever turn into a sandbox this would be killing yourself instead of shooting yourself. Or better yet
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ogr blanc

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May 15, 2019
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I think making it a sandbox game would lose a significant portion of the audience, myself included. The format almost never adds complexity in a good and engaging way, it's almost always confusing, slower, and grindy for no good reason. Taste aside, from a pure development standpoint, the amount of complexity added if BD can't literally go in a straight line narratively would almost assure we never saw another update again.

again, i disagree, specially when i look around and see other sandbox games doing absurdly well in here. to the point some got abandoned, and people still kept going back to them in hopes of it continuing.

in my opinion, if it either changed into a sandbox, or was one from the start, the vast majority of people saying they wouldnt, still would.
 

J.R.

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Jan 2, 2020
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again, i disagree, specially when i look around and see other sandbox games doing absurdly well in here. to the point some got abandoned, and people still kept going back to them in hopes of it continuing.

in my opinion, if it either changed into a sandbox, or was one from the start, the vast majority of people saying they wouldnt, still would.
Na, never would have touched that thing then. Imo the game would have been also abandoned long time ago, too. BD is for me not a sandbox coder. And if it isn't done well sandbox is mostly a pain in the ass.
 

ogr blanc

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May 15, 2019
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Na, never would have touched that thing then. Imo the game would have been also abandoned long time ago, too. BD is for me not a sandbox coder. And if it isn't done well sandbox is mostly a pain in the ass.
guess what, if its not done well, any genre and style will be bad. there are a number of kinetic novels here that are massive garbage. its not because something is sandbox that its bad, its because it was badly made.
 

J.R.

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guess what, if its not done well, any genre and style will be bad. there are a number of kinetic novels here that are massive garbage. its not because something is sandbox that its bad, its because it was badly made.
That was actually the meaning of my post. I don't think BD is a developer doing sandbox games. And don't get me wrong, but in bad VN's it's mostly not the coding. But in almost all bad sandbox/freeroam ones. You must have quite some skills and like that coding style to make a good one there. So it's way easier to fail there. I actually have one dev. who thought to change a (not so bad) VN to a sandbox. Guess what, it's a mess now. After that the game even isn't leaked here anymore because of the big loss of interest and supporters...
Well, I get it. You like sandbox games. Fine, play them. But imo this one isn't meant to be one.
 
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datguy0115

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Feb 21, 2021
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I really love that game. I backed it on patreon for quite a while and I would seriously love to continue to back it once frequent updates are back on the menu, but the differences between chapter one and two are really, really ruining the game for me right now.

Its literally like watching the second season of a show, after watching only half of the first season. You kinda know whats going on, but here and there pops something up, which doesnt make any sense with the background you got. It bothers me personally in any show I watch and it bothers me in this game as well.

I honestly think, that it would be so much better, if BD would stop making new content after the first basketball game is finally done, and focuses on the rework of the first chapter. With the new scenes, couple new characters and the new models of some characters, it could be like playing a new game with characters you kinda know. Especially if its been a while since you played it from the beginning.

But for right now, I am still waiting on the MindDrop which was announced for last Thursday. :ROFLMAO:
 

juan palote

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Dec 5, 2017
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i disagree, making it a sandbox would help the game alot. i think you are confusing bad sandbox games. that either dont make use of its gameplay, or force terrible grinding.

Like i said already, to me, it would fix the problem with the amount of girls, as it would give each of them a better pacing. and a road to develop them(and the story).

and i highly doubt the game would be worse than it already is. with this directionless, kinetic novel just keep the button held to progress.
I have yet to play a single interesting sandbox adult game.

If i want gameplay, i go somewhere else. I come here for the lewd stories, period

Sandbox elements ALWAYS come in detriment of story. ALWAYS. Because the Dev has to waste precious Dev time thinking of gameplay that it will 100% be dull, just clickng somewhere to go, and without even going to stupid stuff like grinding or locking events in certain time of the day

Sandbox adds nothing, removes immersion from the story, and reduces the time the Dev has to work on the important things and adult game should have: Story and Renders.
 

gholmes

Newbie
Jun 7, 2017
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Damn I remember when this game would get an update every month when it first came out :(
I saw a comment some time ago that I think might have hit the nail on the head.

Dev probably had most of the released content done beforehand, then released it bit by bit. Eventually running out of prepared content, and then he just couldn't keep up with what he made at the pace and fell apart.
 

truc94

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Jun 9, 2018
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I have yet to play a single interesting sandbox adult game.

If i want gameplay, i go somewhere else. I come here for the lewd stories, period

Sandbox elements ALWAYS come in detriment of story. ALWAYS. Because the Dev has to waste precious Dev time thinking of gameplay that it will 100% be dull, just clickng somewhere to go, and without even going to stupid stuff like grinding or locking events in certain time of the day

Sandbox adds nothing, removes immersion from the story, and reduces the time the Dev has to work on the important things and adult game should have: Story and Renders.
Much agree. Being a DIK is one of the best game so far if not the best, but those "free-roam" parts are the worst parts of all.

It's long, it's tedious, and it brakes the story flow.

I would much prefer to have a list of places to go or characters to see than to "look for them" on a map or in statics scenes.

So regarding gameplay, I'm quite happy with WVM.
 
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