VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch. 1 Ep. 13 B5] [Braindrop]

[Trojaner]

All i can say for me it's time to disable WVM in the Alerts. Was a fun time again to let the Bad-Shit out in this Thread.
But it also gets a lil boring. Trust is hard to get, but very easy to lose. Maybe we will find this Title again in the Last Games, but i can't shake that feeling that stll won't happen. Soooo, have fun Guys.

 

[Lerd0]

All i can say for me it's time to disable WVM in the Alerts. Was a fun time again to let the Bad-Shit out in this Thread.
But it also gets a lil boring. Trust is hard to get, but very easy to lose. Maybe we will find this Title again in the Last Games, but i can't shake that feeling that stll won't happen. Soooo, have fun Guys.

 

[jish55]

Ah, BD with the "passion project" excuse again XD. Seriously dude, your "passion project" stopped being that the moment you made a legit living off that. Now, it's your job, and to ignore that it's your job shows just how screwed this game truly is. Also, if it was truly a passion project, you wouldn't have $100 donations as an option.

 

[bluetack_man]

Braindrop, if you're reading this: Fire MacFakezie. I mean, I personally think she's you, but whatever, fire her. Any good PR manager would have advice you not to fucking share your personal life YET AGAIN.

After failing your patrons and followers so many times, the last thing people want is hear you using them as your personal therapist AGAIN. Zip it, for your own good. I'm not even trying to be rude, just zip it, oversharing your personal stuff when you already pissed people off only makes things worse, and I'm surprised your PR manager can't even tell you that.
Stop making promises and letting people know you wanna try to set a date YET AGAIN. 99% of the people don't believe you anymore, and they don't care about empty promises.

Best advice I can give you (and I don't need to be PR anything, cause I just use common freaking sense) stay quiet, work and deliver your update as you should, without promises, without more sob stories, without oversharing personal life, NADA. Just do what you're supposed to do. That way when you fail to deliver, again, at least you didn't fucked it up (even more) announcing a date.

I get the impression that she's not a proper PR person (if she even exists in the first place).

It seems like shes his friend, and he said "hey wanna do my PR" and she said "sure", and that was it. I don't think shes particularly trained in PR or communication or anything. If she is, then shes doing a terrible job of it by basically enabling him to sabatage himself.

 

[Nagash477]

Are u guys joking right? Dude still has 2853 patrons, that's definitely enough to milk and tell us more sad stories during this and next year "The show must go on"(c) Braindead

 

[Wolfeszorn]

Huh. Wasn‘t it still a Hobby for him a few posts ago? Now he says it‘s his Job? Wow. It‘s almost like he‘s reading what ppl say in here.

 

[Shouki]

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Did I miss something, or even these "promises" are getting more and more incoherent?
As the last I recall, there was something about weekly small updates for a year or so, but now there is a progress update and render count done weekly/bi-weekly (not sure how often these posts are supposed to drop)?

 

[SerHawkes]

So... Calling it here folks, March 11-12th, yet ANOTHER excuse/delay.

 

[FatGiant]

So... Calling it here folks, March 11-12th, yet ANOTHER excuse/delay.

Unfortunately, it is quite probable. I don't think he ever intends on release any BIG update again. Maybe not even smaller ones.

Peace

 

[SerHawkes]

Unfortunately, it is quite probable. I don't think he ever intends on release any BIG update again. Maybe not even smaller ones.

Peace

At this point, probably. However, more and more are starting to see the truth behind the bullshit, and slowly but surely those patron numbers are gonna decline. Once it start hurting his bottom line however, it should force his hand. Or it won't. Would have to see.

 

[artofwar]

"I want to try again."
"I want to set a release date and try to hit it."
"There's some drama but I try to keep it isolated."
"Gonna try and prove the believers right."

Yup. That's how you know it's not happening, again. Well at this point it's one of the ways but you get what I mean.

 

[KrystofDayne]

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Ok because I apparently have nothing better to do, I'm gonna add some of my lukewarm takes on parts of this post that aren't actually related to the new fake release date because I think everything has been said on this.

(Only creampie if you want them to get pregnant, yes this tip and trick works in real life too.)

Some other person on here pointed out that this is terrible advice but I just wanted to repeat it here. If I can contribute anything to this shitstorm of a game thread, let it be this: the pull-out method is the worst attempt at birth control there is. Terribly ineffective and should never be relied upon. And of course, the reverse is also only true in porn game logic, i.e. if you creampied a girl once that they automatically have to get pregnant.

there will be a lot of group play (Only girls besides the MC)

No other guys will be involved ever in any sex scenes. There will be more trans characters though their involvement with other girls will be entirely optional.

All girls (Outside of the ones patreon doesn't allow) will be romanceable. (Yes that includes Harper and Skye.)

Add transphobia/Skye-was-never-intended-to-be-a-trans-man to the list of things annoying about this game. The trans inclusion in the game, and the fact that Shauna and Penelope were fairly well handled as trans characters (at least as far as porn games go—there is only one other game I can think of that did it better, see signature) was one of the things that excited me most in the early stages of the game. When Skye was introduced, I welcomed him warily although I instantly had my doubts as to how he would be included (see my previous post on this if you're interested).
I know it's not the most important thing about this post but just gives me another reason to be annoyed about the fact that even if an update comes out at some point, I'll probably not enjoy it the same as I did earlier parts of the game.

Gonna try and prove the believers right

You literally can't. All you've done is prove the skeptics right. Over and over again. It doesn't matter what you do now, even if you actually did start at some point delivering regular updates again, keeping your promises, rebuilding trust, it doesn't mean the skeptics were wrong or the believers were right. Everyone saying that you would delay your updates again was actually, in fact, right.
It might be a small thing but this short sentence really shows BD's delusion to its core. That is, if he actually buys his own bullshit, but I think he does, at least to some extent. But to think that somehow you proved anyone right that kept supporting you if you do in fact release the update at the promised date is just hilarious.

 

[Renfield42069]

Yup. That's how you know it's not happening, again. Well at this point it's one of the ways but you get what I mean.

Right, it was very non-committal. My mind just went straight there when I saw his overuse of the word "try".

My beef with this whole drama, from watching the shenanigans the last couple months (I'm relatively new to his brand of drama/comedy), is that even if we play devil's avocado here, and assume he isn't just making shit up and hustling people (which seems highly unlikely)... don't do this shit. If you make a deadline at all, and you know you're gonna miss it, short and to the point "I'm a bit behind but I'll get it to you as soon as it's ready" then shut the fuck up and deliver the update as soon as possible. Once you do, you're free to toss out some kind of succinct "Sorry for missing the deadline, had some personal issues, not trying to make excuses, my bad." and move on. If you wanna spill your guts to someone get a dog, or a therapist, or both; both is good.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

I'm going to make a small observation here, and not a jab at anyone in particular. But I find it interesting and concerning how this thread turned into a circle-jerk of vitriol, almost like y'all have absolutely nothing better to do all day. As though there aren't other VN's out there. I'm as disappointed as the next guy for how this situation has turned out. But, there are other titles to distract from all this 'dramaqueen' inducing negativity. This place feels like it's trying to compete with 4chan. it's even more pathetic when actual site moderators pile on as well. that's like the opposite of 'professionalism' for a site mod. Not inspiring to say the least.

I'm not trying to defend anything BD has done in the past. But is it really worth this much time and attention? I understand the passed 3 yrs have been stressful for everyone, but I just do not/cannot see how all this will bring anything positive out of it. How would any creator/dev would/could ever want or desire to complete anything under these conditions?

Sorry if anyone felt like I was taking shots at them, I'm not. I'm just sitting on the outside looking in. And it's a pretty pathetic sight.

 

[bluetack_man]

I'm going to make a small observation here, and not a jab at anyone in particular. But I find it interesting and concerning how this thread turned into a circle-jerk of vitriol, almost like y'all have absolutely nothing better to do all day. As though there aren't other VN's out there. I'm as disappointed as the next guy for how this situation has turned out. But, there are other titles to distract from all this 'dramaqueen' inducing negativity. This place feels like it's trying to compete with 4chan. it's even more pathetic when actual site moderators pile on as well. that's like the opposite of 'professionalism' for a site mod. Not inspiring to say the least.

I'm not trying to defend anything BD has done in the past. But is it really worth this much time and attention? I understand the passed 3 yrs have been stressful for everyone, but I just do not/cannot see how all this will bring anything positive out of it. How would any creator/dev would/could ever want or desire to complete anything under these conditions?

Sorry if anyone felt like I was taking shots at them, I'm not. I'm just sitting on the outside looking in. And it's a pretty pathetic sight.

You're not wrong.

But lots of the people posting here are either a) former Patreon subscribers who have been scammed out of dozens/hundreds of $ over months, and are therefore disillusioned, grumpy and frustrated; or b) current/former subscribers who have been unfairly banned from BD's official communication channels (Patreon/Discord) for giving critism, so they post here and are more "passionate" with their critism instead.

 

[Deleted member 4175327]

I'm going to make a small observation here, and not a jab at anyone in particular. But I find it interesting and concerning how this thread turned into a circle-jerk of vitriol, almost like y'all have absolutely nothing better to do all day. As though there aren't other VN's out there. I'm as disappointed as the next guy for how this situation has turned out. But, there are other titles to distract from all this 'dramaqueen' inducing negativity. This place feels like it's trying to compete with 4chan. it's even more pathetic when actual site moderators pile on as well. that's like the opposite of 'professionalism' for a site mod. Not inspiring to say the least.

I'm not trying to defend anything BD has done in the past. But is it really worth this much time and attention? I understand the passed 3 yrs have been stressful for everyone, but I just do not/cannot see how all this will bring anything positive out of it. How would any creator/dev would/could ever want or desire to complete anything under these conditions?

Sorry if anyone felt like I was taking shots at them, I'm not. I'm just sitting on the outside looking in. And it's a pretty pathetic sight.

In a way, you’re not wrong. Some may have nothing else to do with their day. But it is their free time, and basking in the BD fall from grace is quite enjoyable.
That being said, BD has brought this upon himself and he 110% deserves it

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

Personally I'm taking this as a lesson to be learned with my own personal project. I'm not even going to bother making an uploader/creator account until I have my entire project completed. Downside to that is, this is just going to make my timeline unpredictable, 'cause I was (still am) a bit discouraged when I discovered how much money it'll cost me in the long run in DAZ assets and licensing. But so be it if it'll avoid any headaches such as these.

 

[Renfield42069]

Personally I'm taking this as a lesson to be learned with my own personal project. I'm not even going to bother making an uploader/creator account until I have my entire project completed. Downside to that is, this is just going to make my timeline unpredictable, 'cause I was (still am) a bit discouraged when I discovered how much money it'll cost me in the long run in DAZ assets and licensing. But so be it if it'll avoid any headaches such as these.

A lot of people take a long time between updates and don't catch heat for it. Or not much, anyway. What those people typically don't do is string people along with repeated, obviously made up, dog-ate-my-homework style stories after setting "firm" deadlines. It's less about the infrequency and more about how they're going about it; though the extremely long delays are a contributing factor. People are making jokes but they're being quite tame, in all honesty.

All that said.... You kink shaming circlejerks, bruh!?

 

[polycentric]

I'm going to make a small observation here, and not a jab at anyone in particular. But I find it interesting and concerning how this thread turned into a circle-jerk of vitriol, almost like y'all have absolutely nothing better to do all day. As though there aren't other VN's out there. I'm as disappointed as the next guy for how this situation has turned out. But, there are other titles to distract from all this 'dramaqueen' inducing negativity. This place feels like it's trying to compete with 4chan. it's even more pathetic when actual site moderators pile on as well. that's like the opposite of 'professionalism' for a site mod. Not inspiring to say the least.

I'm not trying to defend anything BD has done in the past. But is it really worth this much time and attention? I understand the passed 3 yrs have been stressful for everyone, but I just do not/cannot see how all this will bring anything positive out of it. How would any creator/dev would/could ever want or desire to complete anything under these conditions?

Sorry if anyone felt like I was taking shots at them, I'm not. I'm just sitting on the outside looking in. And it's a pretty pathetic sight.

99% of the time I would say that you were correct and I have suggested in the past that we all just forget about BrainDrop, WVM and do something more important such as cleaning out the refrigerator.

This situation, though, is the exception to the rule because:
- BD actively solicited patronization at an early stage and made numerous promises to attract that patronage
- BD has made, and continues to make, some of the most preposterous excuses that I've ever heard, the kind of stuff that would get you fired from a job or a contract five times over
- The BD simp cult Patreons actively push back on people trying to obtain some kind of value for their patronage, making it harder to affect change on his behavior
- BD has flinched at the suggestion that he should stop collecting patronage for WVM because "he needs the money"
- Because so many people join F95zone, come to this thread and refuse to read the history, the people that had an emotional attachment to the game read a steady stream of comments from underinformed people about something that they were supporting since 'day one', keeping it fresh in their minds

I supported BD early on and stopped when he, and WVM, started going off the rails and I have zero emotional investment in WVM. My personal gripe is the knock-on effect this is having on actual 'hobby games' where the developer has not turned a project into a full time business but is facing increasing harassment by people whose opinion is stained by people such as ICSTOR and BD.

I don't see this stopping until most people think he's either completely come clean about the last two years, or somehow catches up, and neither of those are liable to happen so I don't see this just fizzling out any time soon - and probably shouldn't.

 

[OmegaLord]

OK, sorry if some people have pointed this out already but I have to laugh at some of the crazy things in that braindrop.
1) He is saying sorry to those who don't fuck with him anymore... in a post only people who do still fuck with him can see...
2) Starting April 3rd we will start getting weekly updates if the plan holds, yet the braindrops will be giving us update info on how many renders or % complete? Am I just missing something or is that a complete waste as up to now BD has kept update posts and braindrops as two different things.

Also want to point out how he is cool with letting people down unless that is just some horrible wording on his part, he says he knows it's on him but his wording does not take ownership of it.