VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch. 1 Ep. 13 B5] [Braindrop]

[moskyx]

Don't know but BD was never delivering perfection to begin with good to solid at best. I am still sure there are some out there though. As he has plenty of supporters on Patreon throwing money at him for nothing in return. Also looks like his ploy of pausing patreon for not meeting February 23. Was all a hoax as he paused it and going to un-pause it later this month before April so he will get march's and April's money anyway. Should pause it until he has delivered a few of his weekly updates if you ask me. That would be a better show of faith.

Patreon doesn't let you pause pledges indefinitely (unless you switch the billing method to 'per release'), so the charging system has to be disabled monthly. If he actually paused after Feb 23, then March 1 payments weren't processed (and they will never be, this month he'll only get money from the new patrons signing in), but he'll need to hit pause again sometime in March if he wants to pause April's too. No shady movement there yet, it's just how Patreon works. JFYI

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I said months ago I was going to leave the thread but you know how you can't just take your eyes off trainwrecks. Holy shit.

 

[SteelToRust]

He is going to do an update this month 100%. He needs to deliver something to let this insane scam or whatever going on.
At this point, he knows the only people that will keep paying him are the long-standing patreons that didn't quit on him yet.

The plan is going to be: a release this month ( I doubt on the 13th or the 2500 renders he has promised for the last 10 months or so ), billing for April with the small chunk beta bs which is going to transform in another large chunk vs small chunk debate that will finish with another 400 render update in late summer, maybe August.

 

[MrLKX]

Does any one no when the update well be

At this point probably even the dev doesn't know.

 

[dgxsu]

Does any one no when the update well be

never

 

[S1nsational]

With the amount of hate the dev gets, I'm kinda surprised, but relieved, they haven't gotten doxxed yet. Like someone finding out who they really are and how much of what they ever say is true

 

[jonnyd901]

With the amount of hate the dev gets, I'm kinda surprised, but relieved, they haven't gotten doxxed yet. Like someone finding out who they really are and how much of what they ever say is true

Probably being doxxed is the next excuse now

 

[kcaldw]

Does any one no when the update well be

Your guess is as good as ours. BD and his alter ego MacKenzie are talking it over as we speak. So probably never.

 

[derpmcderp]

He is going to do an update this month 100%. He needs to deliver something to let this insane scam or whatever going on.
At this point, he knows the only people that will keep paying him are the long-standing patreons that didn't quit on him yet.

The plan is going to be: a release this month ( I doubt on the 13th or the 2500 renders he has promised for the last 10 months or so ), billing for April with the small chunk beta bs which is going to transform in another large chunk vs small chunk debate that will finish with another 400 render update in late summer, maybe August.

He has released content *3* times in 24 months. You're a lot more confident than I am, and I'm pretty damn confident.

 

[Zelvik]

He has released content *3* times in 24 months. You're a lot more confident than I am, and I'm pretty damn confident.

I am also pretty damn confident after reading through the last few pages of this thread, I will never support this developer financially because of his lack of effort to finish the story.

 

[Fragmandk]

Does any one no when the update well be

It Should have been there almost a year ago so

 

[SteelToRust]

He has released content *3* times in 24 months. You're a lot more confident than I am, and I'm pretty damn confident.

Let me put it this way: at this point, it seems pretty obvious he is in for the money. While I personally have a very low opinion of humanity in general, after 1-2 years of all this bs people will start leaving. From what I read here he is bleeding patreons, but not as much as it should be.

Every scam either needs some godlike charisma to work or some carrot to hang in front of people in the form of hope from time to time. I just believe it's time to receive some of the carrot, that's all.

 

[Fragmandk]

With the amount of hate the dev gets, I'm kinda surprised, but relieved, they haven't gotten doxxed yet. Like someone finding out who they really are and how much of what they ever say is true

Stop giving him excuses to use we all know he has a spy account on this site and uses the good excuses we come up with that he could use, and use them.

 

[Wolfen5]

Let me put it this way: at this point, it seems pretty obvious he is in for the money. While I personally have a very low opinion of humanity in general, after 1-2 years of all this bs people will start leaving. From what I read here he is bleeding patreons, but not as much as it should be.

Every scam either needs some godlike charisma to work or some carrot to hang in front of people in the form of hope from time to time. I just believe it's time to receive some of the carrot, that's all.

Sadly, you'd be surprised how many "milking" devs around here with abandoned games on this site still have support on Patreon. None of them do the right thing for their supporters. Ethically, morally or otherwise
As long as there are suckers to buy their bill of goods, there'll be scammers that take advantage, even if it didn't start that way.

 

[polycentric]

Every scam either needs some godlike charisma to work or some carrot to hang in front of people in the form of hope from time to time.

Even if it didn't start as a scam, it's a scam now and it follows the classic pattern - good initial performance to lock in the 'true believers' and then coast as long as you can. This has been going on for thousands of years and you would think we would get a little smarter about this fraud pattern.

 

[K18]

It's March 5 for most, so here's a very Happy Birthday to Zoe. Our sexy flirty cheerleading captain !

 

[krakos9]

The main problem is in the interim of the updates not coming someone started a story about a grandson fucking anything in sight and is still pumping up updates every month. So i don't really care anymore about a basketball game, i care about the story about a man that got it's next of kin family taken from him so that he overcompensate, or the story about a superhero in training that thinks he is not up to par the reveal about him make you go play the game again. All i get from this is trans lover and duckfaces. Dev really needs stop taking ideas from patreons and get back to the first idea.

 

[derpmcderp]

Let me put it this way: at this point, it seems pretty obvious he is in for the money. While I personally have a very low opinion of humanity in general, after 1-2 years of all this bs people will start leaving. From what I read here he is bleeding patreons, but not as much as it should be.

Every scam either needs some godlike charisma to work or some carrot to hang in front of people in the form of hope from time to time. I just believe it's time to receive some of the carrot, that's all.

IMO it's not a problem that he's in it for the money, the problem is not honoring his end of the bargain.

I do think this is going to trend downwards over time as I said before. Everyone has their breaking point and once they're broke, they're not coming back. The reality of this game is at this point, even if he hit every single one of his goals for the rest of this year and next, I've given him all the money he's ever going to get from me. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way.

Another thing to consider is people at $1 tier level who are subbed to multiple people and just don't even pay attention. I don't think it's a huge number of people, but there have to be some patrons who liked the game two years ago, pledged a buck a month and then WVM got lost in the sauce of their other pledges OR it's such an insignificant amount that they don't even pay attention to the charge.

I wish there was a way to see the breakdown of pledges that are fanatical devotees that will go down with the ship no matter what and people who don't even remember the ship exists at all.

 

[S1nsational]

The main problem is in the interim of the updates not coming someone started a story about a grandson fucking anything in sight and is still pumping up updates every month. So i don't really care anymore about a basketball game, i care about the story about a man that got it's next of kin family taken from him so that he overcompensate, or the story about a superhero in training that thinks he is not up to par the reveal about him make you go play the game again. All i get from this is trans lover and duckfaces. Dev really needs stop taking ideas from patreons and get back to the first idea.

I know what games you're talking about, and those games would be even better if they did in fact offer trans love interests.
Trans characters are a good thing, especially when they're well written like they are in this game.
So adding trans characters shouldn't be on a list of problems with this game, especially as it has nothing to do with why it's been delayed so long

 

[SteelToRust]

IMO it's not a problem that he's in it for the money, the problem is not honoring his end of the bargain.

I do think this is going to trend downwards over time as I said before. Everyone has their breaking point and once they're broke, they're not coming back. The reality of this game is at this point, even if he hit every single one of his goals for the rest of this year and next, I've given him all the money he's ever going to get from me. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way.

Another thing to consider is people at $1 tier level who are subbed to multiple people and just don't even pay attention. I don't think it's a huge number of people, but there have to be some patrons who liked the game two years ago, pledged a buck a month and then WVM got lost in the sauce of their other pledges OR it's such an insignificant amount that they don't even pay attention to the charge.

I wish there was a way to see the breakdown of pledges that are fanatical devotees that will go down with the ship no matter what and people who don't even remember the ship exists at all.

We could debate on what honoring his end of the bargain actually means on a site like Patreon, since I have no idea if anything he actually puts on the pledges is actually binding or not. I always saw Patreon as a " Pay me if you like what I did ", never something along the line of " Pay me and support while I'm doing this ".

We can also have a nice discussion about whether accepting free money is actually wrong. Sure, it may be ethically wrong but if there is nothing legally binding on his promises of content, I don't know which side is more to blame though: the sheep or the wolf who just exploit them? It's 2023, and they have a choice on how to spend their money. If they want to spend it like this, meh, more power to them I guess. I do think it's not a really nice way to behave but never got in that position so I have no idea how I would deal with receiving that kind of money monthly in this kind of grey area. In any case, I really don't want to go off-topic though.

My thought process on the update is just that he needs to eventually deliver something to just keep the faithful who still cares. People who already left won't come back because once trust is broken is way too hard to actually get back. This also seems the way he wants to move by deleting the old post on his Patreon: he wishes to get some new ones and keep the ones he has. History proved that there is only so much bullshit people can take before they just quit on you and I'm sure he knows that.

So yeah, he will drop something this month for sure. He can't be that dense to not see this.

 

[Feru452ax]

So yeah, he will drop something this month for sure. He can't be that dense to not see this.

Considering what happened so far and all the time he refused to listen to people here or on patreon asking some possibilities on this game (not just refusing, but being quite rude to his consumers), I'm quite sure he's THIS dense.

Sadly Jamie is the best render I found in a girl on an adult game, wished there were others games with her render, so I could put this one to sit for some years, untill it gets a good amount of new stuff or it gets completed (or abandoned).