VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch. 1 Ep. 13 B5] [Braindrop]

[Rick_Sim]

As an aside, yours truly is starting to make my own AVN game.

I have no idea how good my first effort will be, as I am learning DAZ and have acquired quite a bit of assets for it. I need to learn Ren'py better, learn Daz, and create scenes so this will definitely be a WIP. Everyone starts somewhere, so who knows?

I make my own music with keyboards and the DAW Acoustica Mixcraft 9, so my game will feature a soundtrack not normally found in AVN games (mostly generic public domain tracks you happen to hear in a lot of different games). I am also a writer and like to write stories, so both abilities should come in handy for this!

I am starting to write the story and I have been working with DAZ a lot to learn to create the content. I will keep everyone updated as well on my progress and hope to release a preview soon. I am just now getting to the point where I can make entire scenes in DAZ. I found a way to import DAZ content to Blender, but Blender would be a completely different animal to learn, so I will stick with DAZ3D Studio Pro for now.

I will stick to my guns and if I say there is an update coming, it will come! I will make a Patreon and all that, but my focus is on learning DAZ, creating a good story, keep lots of choices, and learn from mistakes of developers (like a well known AVN maker discussed in here ).

I have also thought about doing a spin of WVM, but to be honest I would prefer to create my own AVN.

 

[Tecumseh]

If I was Braindrop:

• Quit giving bogus drop dates and just say the next update will be out "soon".
• "I got 30,000 screens finished, it will be out in the next update!" Then releases 203, if lucky. Stop that!
• Give people more choice in what to do with the game.
• Instead of excuses, show screen shots of progress and check in with the progress (without giving away surprises).
• People complain about things in masses (black boxes), stop doing it completely, instead of overdoing it!
• Instead of bringing in 100 new girls, focus on like 10-12 of them and make the other ones just side-lays for Ethan (for the breeding side-plot).
• Make Harper bangable, but make it prolonged and lead up to. Not just, "Oh well, let's do it!"
• Work on ACTUALLY IMPROVING models, not changing them for a side-grade or outright downgrade (Katie: Just no!)
• Quit with the bogus excuses.
• Quit making yourself a victim of your own doing.

If he did this, this whole thread would be a lot more full of praise instead of calling him out. He would likely get more fans and be more successful.

Sadly, he seems to think because of his defenders, he can keep on, keeping on! But far from a smart business or character model!

I agree. I also think he should have a progress bar like some other devs do. Like the devs for what a legend or SS. I think that may help a little bit with people doubting whether he's actually doing anything. Along with screenshots of completed renders that wont necessarily spoil what the next update is about.

 

[Aioto]

That is also when he suddenly came contrarian, promised updates were often missed with excuses, and the focus of the story became more diffuse.

He has always been a contrarian. If you look in the first 400-500 pages of this thread you can see BD himself tell the story of how someone DM'd him a stupid demand that a character that was barefoot in a scene shouldn't be barefoot, and his reaction was to make everyone barefoot all the time, and that happened way before the pool party.

 

[derpmcderp]

He has always been a contrarian. If you look in the first 400-500 pages of this thread you can see BD himself tell the story of how someone DM'd him a stupid demand that a character that was barefoot in a scene shouldn't be barefoot, and his reaction was to make everyone barefoot all the time, and that happened way before the pool party.

You know, characters always being barefoot was yet another stupid fucking thing I noticed but didn't mention and this doesn't surprise me at all.

 

[Rome5555555]

You blockhead Charlie Brown.

Brave claim.

 

[Uguei]

You might want to work on your observation and reading comprehension. Chapter 4 and 5 were supposed to be the same update, but it got split into several parts despite Patrons voting against it. I guess it looks like a positive to see back to back updates, even if it still less than what was promised, as a single update going back to November (and beyond).

Tbf i barely read what is posted on this thread, after all 90% of the comments are people shitting on the game/the developer for XYZ reason (sometimes it's well deserved criticism, other times is just people being petty) and, honestly, it's so fucking annoying to go through all of them to keep up with what the developer has said. If what you say about the update is true then it's kinda shitty to do, specially the part about not respecting the Patrons decisions.

The update being less than what was promised in November is not surprising at all. Did anyone really think that it was going to be something like the mythical 3000 renders update that was promised ages ago? If, after everything that has happened on the development of this game, someone still thought that the update was going to have a lot of content, they're either delusional or extremely gullible. I'm just surprised that we had bits of new content. I genuinely thought he would keep the scam going by updating the game with the "rework" that was said to be done. Still, none of this goes particularly against my original comment, so i guess i stand by what i said~

It's amazing how quickly the 2400+ render update "Mackenzie" "had to release" a month ago is forgotten, but instead there we get a 1200+ render update followed by a missing 767 render update...and the remaining part is now delayed until...who knows when. Maybe it will be carved up into the "weekly updates" starting in April...

I don't think people forgot about the huge update that was supposed to come. I'd say it's more that people never really thought it was real, so there is no point on asking for it to be released. Personally i'm interested in seeing if the "weekly updates" ever happen and, if so, for how long they'll keep coming until he starts again with the delays. Hopefully he'll prove me wrong and keep up with them until the game is finished, but we all know that's not going to happen lol

Tbh though, at this point it doesn't matter what he does, people are going to keep shitting on him and the updates regardless of the content. He fucked up too much, too often and it doesn't seem as if it's going to stop anytime soon so people should just stop taking this game so seriously. Nowadays there are way too many quality games on this site to keep up, so losing your time on this one is a complete waste. Most people here seem burnt out so just check the thread once every few months and you'll be fine...

 

[preglovr12]

Personally i'm interested in seeing if the "weekly updates" ever happen and, if so, for how long they'll keep coming until he starts again with the delays

Easter.

 

[Shouki]

Easter.

Don't be so pessimistic, maybe he can follow up with it for April, as according to him there should be around 1k renders ready (the 3rd batch that was never released). So maybe in a panic mode he did most of those in the end, and we will have some content out of it.

Aaaaand I am dreaming again probably, aren't I?

 

[artofwar]

Cluster B

 

[Freki]

Don't be so pessimistic, maybe he can follow up with it for April, as according to him there should be around 1k renders ready (the 3rd batch that was never released). So maybe in a panic mode he did most of those in the end, and we will have some content out of it.

Aaaaand I am dreaming again probably, aren't I?

you do realize easter is april 9th do you not? also i believe the 3rd chunk will come out soon but it is a guess on my part.

 

[Rick_Sim]

At this point, everything is pure speculation. What he says and what he does is vastly different anymore, so going by what he says is a fool's errand. I would love to say, "Hey, he learned from his mistakes and will do better." but that is likely not going to happen. Apparently, all he has to do is claim progress is being made and people will suck it up, despite missing practically every deadline anymore.

You have to do the "Rule of 4th" with him now. Promised update will be 1/4 as big and take 4 times longer than anticipated.

Though we might get another update around Easter, as Freki pointed out, I have a gut feeling it will be small. That is, if he does not do what he normally does and feed more excuses for delays.

I would honestly love for him to get back on track, and more importantly, prove this whole post wrong. I just do not have a lot of faith that is going to happen. I would not go by his dates, as you will either get a very small update that misses the former quality, or fed more lines why it was delayed. EDIT: Sometimes both!

 

[GeppettoPossum]

As a side note, I had always thought having a "faceless" MC was so that players could relate to them better (or self-insert I guess). I do think the black box method BD has been using recently is pretty janky, but what are people wanting instead? A face for the MC, better positioned camera shots to obfuscate his face, or a strictly POV camera?
That being said, I'm not sure indulging the players' desire to self-insert really makes much of a difference in a game where you are a 6'5" gigachad.

 

[Krynh]

or a strictly POV camera?

We could go pack to POV like it used to be. Except when the girls were lying on his chest.

I really want to piss BD off by going onto the discord and ask him when he's going to re-work Jamie and Shauna's faces seeing as he's done everyone else.

 

[CircaAD]

As a side note, I had always thought having a "faceless" MC was so that players could relate to them better (or self-insert I guess). I do think the black box method BD has been using recently is pretty janky, but what are people wanting instead? A face for the MC, better positioned camera shots to obfuscate his face, or a strictly POV camera?
That being said, I'm not sure indulging the players' desire to self-insert really makes much of a difference in a game where you are a 6'5" gigachad.

Given BD held the first person even through the kisses, so like you're getting kissed on the eye, I would have suggested staying in POV. For photos taken on phones, MC can handle the phone to see the pic and put his gigachad thumb over his own face while holding the relatively tiny phone. Ball game stills could be seen on a tv monitor, with any number of obstacles and spectators blocking the frame. I'm sure this thread could generate a lot more ideas than this.

 

[johnnyM]

The black box was just a lazy design choice, nothing more.

If BD wanted the user to feel that they could self-insert themselves into the action, it should have been a POV camera all the way.

 

[Shouki]

you do realize easter is april 9th do you not? also i believe the 3rd chunk will come out soon but it is a guess on my part.

He promised "weekly" updates, with the first being on the 3rd, so as Preggo said Easter, that implies only 1 update, and I said 4 with the month that I hoped for.

As for the 3rd chunk that will not happen. Sorry, I just woke up, so I am a bit lazy to search back for his latest Patreon post, but he said so himself. So these promised renders are basically April, or even possibly May "weekly updates" now, IF he sticks to those.

 

[Freki]

He promised "weekly" updates, with the first being on the 3rd, so as Preggo said Easter, that implies only 1 update, and I said 4 with the month that I hoped for.

As for the 3rd chunk that will not happen. Sorry, I just woke up, so I am a bit lazy to search back for his latest Patreon post, but he said so himself. So these promised renders are basically April, or even possibly May "weekly updates" now, IF he sticks to those.

he did not say the large chunk would become weekly stuff. just that the next release would be likely april 3rd (a week before easter) and be 250-300. you interpert it as you want to but don't make things out of nothing. in this case reading between the lines is not the way to go, if you do that you can not hold him accountable for anything because that was your interpertation of what was said and not what was actually said.

 

[Freki]

The black box was just a lazy design choice, nothing more.

If BD wanted the user to feel that they could self-insert themselves into the action, it should have been a POV camera all the way.

have you ever tried watching a basketball game in first person view? not much to show really. I think it was a reaction because he had not thought of how to keep the mc not specific (an no a generic face would still be specific) and he has said that it was what he came up with in the time for working with the release. but again i'm sure you can do better.

 

[Rick_Sim]

have you ever tried watching a basketball game in first person view? not much to show really. I think it was a reaction because he had not thought of how to keep the mc not specific (an no a generic face would still be specific) and he has said that it was what he came up with in the time for working with the release. but again i'm sure you can do better.

This is a game, not real life. It is not like we are sitting through an entire basketball game.

You could keep it interesting in first person, showing him dunking, blocking shots, lay ups, etc. Much better than black boxes, that is no doubt! He even kept the black box in a scene where he was between a woman's thighs and it was sticking up a little past her legs!

Or simply shading a male's face, putting girls/objects in front of it. There is nothing to defend, the black box has been universally hated by everyone.

 

[johnnyM]

The black box was lazy designing/rendering and that's all. This a testament to the Oh Shit I need to get this release out right now.

I'm sure BD has a face for MC but he couldn't nail the facial expressions right for the MC during the bball game and just put the black box over everything in order to get the release out the door.