ImperialD

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Whether Shauna being trans is optional or not and whether sharing Jamie with Shauna is optional or not, it's still completely out of character for Jamie and MC to involve Jamie with a penis that isn't MC's. Sharing with Female Shauna is probably in character for MC, but somewhat out of character for both Jamie and Shauna. It's obviously just being forced in as a fetish thing, which is of course what the trans route has been since the beginning.
not really ... if you've been playing this game for awhile you'd have seen this coming ....... like most of us ... i believe ... :cool:
 

JGNeon

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It seems like you have an incomplete download there.

The full download of WVM-S2-C1-E11-B1 should be about 4.42-4.43 GB, while the compressed version should be about 1.26 GB. The one you have is neither (looks like closer to 1.41 GB), but rather about a quarter of the full download.

The update-only package (WVM-S2-C1-E11-B1-UO) should be around 1.43 GB, but the filename you have doesn't match that.

I suggest you re-download whichever version you were trying to get.
 
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PaxHadrian17

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Didn't think i'd see virtue signaling on a pirate site for a dev like BD, now i have.
Calling myself a freeloader for taking something I do not pay for would, by many people's accounts, not be considered virtue signaling. I simply explained what my definition of freeloading is, and that I fit that definition just like anyone else here who is described by that definition.

If you have a different definition of freeloading - feel free to share it - no judgment, just discussion.

Maybe you have valid points worth considering.

Perhaps you just have your opinions, and we have to agree to disagree.

I'm fine with having that discussion.

Cheers! :coffee:
 

Tuatha Dé

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not really ... if you've been playing this game for awhile you'd have seen this coming ....... like most of us ... i believe ... :cool:
From what I have played (until before day 32) I can say that it is a bit weird, because they are "forced" situations like the kiss when she scared her to wake up, the Mc putting one on top of the other when they are not very comfortable, if they feel more like the script forcing that. It is something that unlike Bailey and Rainn can be said that is more to please certain subscribers, for example all the no incest but every now and then seems a step away from making out with Azel however there does not yield by the rules of patreon, but for those who want Shauna to fuck Jamie it makes it easier for him to carry it out.
At least I feel that way because I see them more as bf's than them being more than friends, but that was a foregone conclusion since sometimes they would drop the 3 way relationship thing or because they don't kiss.
 

ImperialD

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From what I have played (until before day 32) I can say that it is a bit weird, because they are "forced" situations like the kiss when she scared her to wake up, the Mc putting one on top of the other when they are not very comfortable, if they feel more like the script forcing that. It is something that unlike Bailey and Rainn can be said that is more to please certain subscribers, for example all the no incest but every now and then seems a step away from making out with Azel however there does not yield by the rules of patreon, but for those who want Shauna to fuck Jamie it makes it easier for him to carry it out.
At least I feel that way because I see them more as bf's than them being more than friends, but that was a foregone conclusion since sometimes they would drop the 3 way relationship thing or because they don't kiss.
nothing got forced .. you had the choice ... you could have chosen not to let them :rolleyes:
 

Tuatha Dé

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nothing got forced .. you had the choice ... you could have chosen not to let them :rolleyes:
I don't mean the choice xd, I mean the feeling that the whole situation gives me, it doesn't seem natural, at least that's how I feel, it's more something that the developer wants but didn't know how to make it flow than with "forced" situations like the kiss or that they are on top of each other by request of the mc.
 
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ImperialD

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I don't mean the choice xd, I mean the feeling that the whole situation gives me, it doesn't seem natural, at least that's how I feel, it's more something that the developer wants but didn't know how to make it flow than with "forced" situations like the kiss or that they are on top of each other by request of the mc.
well like i said i kinda saw this coming from several updates ago ... ;)
 

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Whether Shauna being trans is optional or not and whether sharing Jamie with Shauna is optional or not, it's still completely out of character for Jamie and MC to involve Jamie with a penis that isn't MC's. Sharing with Female Shauna is probably in character for MC, but somewhat out of character for both Jamie and Shauna. It's obviously just being forced in as a fetish thing, which is of course what the trans route has been since the beginning.
Stop acting like the problem is about characterization. It's not. There's something you don't like and you're moaning just because of that, despite said thing being just an option. It's a fucking pornographic game, it IS about fetishes, you're sperging out because it's not what you're into.
 
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Stop acting like the problem is about characterization. It's not. There's something you don't like and you're moaning just because of that, despite said thing being just an option. It's a fucking pornographic game, it IS about fetishes, you're sperging out because it's not what you're into.


This is the best post I've ever seen on this forum.
 

Phenim

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From what I have played (until before day 32) I can say that it is a bit weird, because they are "forced" situations like the kiss when she scared her to wake up, the Mc putting one on top of the other when they are not very comfortable, if they feel more like the script forcing that. It is something that unlike Bailey and Rainn can be said that is more to please certain subscribers, for example all the no incest but every now and then seems a step away from making out with Azel however there does not yield by the rules of patreon, but for those who want Shauna to fuck Jamie it makes it easier for him to carry it out.
At least I feel that way because I see them more as bf's than them being more than friends, but that was a foregone conclusion since sometimes they would drop the 3 way relationship thing or because they don't kiss.
I think you either missed or don't remember Tia's scene in the garage. Jamie is very much into watching and getting involved with others with MC, she is still struggling with getting past how she was brought up and is trying to embrace what she likes.
I have no idea what female Shawna's storyline is being worked into, but Trans Shawna is still trying to figure out who she is and is still very uncomfortable with her body. As they all progress together, Shawna is slowly learning to be ok with her body and has said that being around/with Jamie has been a big help with that.
 

Tuatha Dé

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I think you either missed or don't remember Tia's scene in the garage. Jamie is very much into watching and getting involved with others with MC, she is still struggling with getting past how she was brought up and is trying to embrace what she likes.
I have no idea what female Shawna's storyline is being worked into, but Trans Shawna is still trying to figure out who she is and is still very uncomfortable with her body. As they all progress together, Shawna is slowly learning to be ok with her body and has said that being around/with Jamie has been a big help with that.
yes the scene with tia leads you to think Jamie is bi but it's more like her, the Mc and someone else at that moment, I don't see her as being in a relationship with someone else without the Mc, at least that's my impression, and from what I understand it would be more of a Shauna and Jamie, it's kind of weird how I'm phrasing it but I mean I see Jamie only doing things with someone else only if the Mc is involved.
I don't know if it happens in the 2 versions of Shauna in the cheating path but when Jamie tells the Mc that he can be with Shauna it's like a fresh start and you can see how Shauna is uncomfortable at first and then with Jamie's help she gains more confidence, but after that it's like it's normal to be the 3 of them together in bed so I don't notice too much discomfort with his body from then on, until the scene where Skye touches her waist that reminds you of her body confidence problems because before that everything seemed to have been overcome, going to the point yes Jamie was a big factor in Shauna growing to accept her body (female Shauna that I remember is not emphasized so much in her discomfort, not taking into account its past but its present) but they just seem more like best friends and not with an interest beyond that, the only situations that make you think that it was coming are forced actions (the kiss and the Mc's request) but in my opinion none of their interactions make you think that they could develop a romantic relationship.
 
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yes the scene with tia leads you to think Jamie is bi but it's more like her, the Mc and someone else at that moment, I don't see her as being in a relationship with someone else without the Mc, at least that's my impression, and from what I understand it would be more of a Shauna and Jamie, it's kind of weird how I'm phrasing it but I mean I see Jamie only doing things with someone else only if the Mc is involved.
I don't know if it happens in the 2 versions of Shauna in the cheating path but when Jamie tells the Mc that he can be with Shauna it's like a fresh start and you can see how Shauna is uncomfortable at first and then with Jamie's help she gains more confidence, but after that it's like it's normal to be the 3 of them together in bed so I don't notice too much discomfort with his body from then on, until the scene where Skye touches her waist that reminds you of her body confidence problems because before that everything seemed to have been overcome, going to the point yes Jamie was a big factor in Shauna growing to accept her body (female Shauna that I remember is not emphasized so much in her discomfort, not taking into account its past but its present) but they just seem more like best friends and not with an interest beyond that, the only situations that make you think that it was coming are forced actions (the kiss and the Mc's request) but in my opinion none of their interactions make you think that they could develop a romantic relationship.
from what I understand about how Shauna feels about herself, it seems like she is becoming more comfortable being nude around the MC and Jamie but whenever someone else is involved in sexual acts or just touches Shauna in normal day activities then she has a panic attack and feels uncomfortable. Which is why she reacts that way when Skye touches her waist and when Aubrey sees them in the bathroom and inside the trailer. Granted that I play with Shauna not being trans, so it might be slightly different reasonings on that path, but on her non trans path is seems like she has body dysmorphia and is slowly working through it with the MC's and Jamie's help.
 

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Now, you said: I didn't say there aren't freeloaders, I said it's disingenuous to say that anyone complaining is one

If a non-supporter is complaining about a dev's creation that they downloaded on F95, then that person, whether they praise, criticize or both, is a freeloader Unless the dev has approved the public release of the rev in question.

I checked both Patreon and SS and neither offer a free version of WVM.

This means that they are taking something for free without providing payment or a service approved by the dev.

That is freeloading!
You seem to have missed the point... Not everyone on this site is a freeloader some of us are supporters or did support (you'd be surprised how much devs make from people from this site alone VIA advertisement here and etc) this isn't just a pirate site thats the point you seem to be missing so yes its 100% disingenuous to label all people freeloaders here for example my own subs from patron/subscriberstar don't really interact on there but will message me here or in my threads instead because lets be honest a forum is alot better place to discuss things, patron/subscriberstar doesn't really offer the best platform for discussing things besides leaving a small comment like "nice update" or "shit update" its primarily designed for one off comments not a full blown back and forth discussion like we are doing right now.
 
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