VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch. 1 Ep. 13 B5] [Braindrop]

[-CookieMonster666-]

isn't she just his step mother? When does two completely non blood related person having sex considered as incest? It against the dictionary definition of the word. Also if Step mother would be considered as incest for some reason, most of the videos on pornhub would be deleted since even implying real incest is forbidden there. Step-sis, step-mom is okay tho. On Patreon I know multiple games where you fuck your step-mother or foster mother or your step-sis (hell even real incest in multiple popular games on patreon and yes without any patch or defining relationship). Does Patreon really ban non-blood step relations?

unfortunately yes, some projects manage to survive being unnoticed, well, until they don't.
WVM is way too big (and BD is not the least antagonistic guy around) to risk it.

Not even step-mother, right? Isn't she's his adoptive mother, so there never was any relation of any kind with her? After his birth mother got into tough circumstances, she asked Azel to take the MC and care for him, right? I don't remember Azel ever actually being married to the MC's birth father.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

isn't she just his step mother? When does two completely non blood related person having sex considered as incest? It against the dictionary definition of the word. Also if Step mother would be considered as incest for some reason, most of the videos on pornhub would be deleted since even implying real incest is forbidden there. Step-sis, step-mom is okay tho. On Patreon I know multiple games where you fuck your step-mother or foster mother or your step-sis (hell even real incest in multiple popular games on patreon and yes without any patch or defining relationship). Does Patreon really ban non-blood step relations?

Fight that battle with the credit card companies that Patreon is in bed with.

 

[preskerd]

Fight that battle with the credit card companies that Patreon is in bed with.

I think the problem is developer here. I don't think Patreon would ban his game because and adult male character romancing his adoptive mother which she has ZERO blood relations with him. She is not even his fucking stepmother. Also dev constantly teasing sexual content with her like kissing on the lips and mc keeps peeking her breasts and body, should show dev knows patreon has no problem with it. I think at this point developer is just trolling and enjoy blueballing us

 

[Subroxien Foxie]

I think the problem is developer here. I don't think Patreon would ban his game because and adult male character romancing his adoptive mother which she has ZERO blood relations with him

I hope he is not keeping her as a some sort of end-ish game reward or something because as much as I would like to pursue her, she is NOT that kind of reward type imho. I would understand maybe Harper but her? Nope nope.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

I think the problem is developer here. I don't think Patreon would ban his game because and adult male character romancing his adoptive mother which she has ZERO blood relations with him. She is not even his fucking stepmother. Also dev constantly teasing sexual content with her like kissing on the lips and mc keeps peeking her breasts and body, should show dev knows patreon has no problem with it. I think at this point developer is just trolling and enjoy blueballing us

They will and all it takes is for one lil cunt to report it and bam. Done deal. There's far too many lil cunts around these days.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

I know a pretty big game on patreon where a daughter giving oral sex to her actual mother in a threesome with mc. Plus on WVM azel is just her foster mom ffs. On top of that if Azel is a big no no for developer, why does he constantly teasing us with kiss scenes or peek scenes with her and mc? This is just fucking cruel man

Same reason Nyx teases everyone with the mom. They enjoy fuckin with us.

 

[Noid42]

Not even step-mother, right? Isn't she's his adoptive mother, so there never was any relation of any kind with her? After his birth mother got into tough circumstances, she asked Azel to take the MC and care for him, right? I don't remember Azel ever actually being married to the MC's birth father.

Azel never legally adopted the MC, but the implication is definitely there, especially with how the MC calls her. other projects got slapped for less.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Azel never legally adopted the MC, but the implication is definitely there, especially with how the MC calls her. other projects got slapped for less.

Ah, right. But my main point was that she was never in a relationship with his blood father, so it wouldn't even be step-mother. So I guess "adoptive" mother is the closest she is.

 

[Subroxien Foxie]

First of all, I would like to say thank you for your efforts for creating this game I have been following for while now and I am definitely invested in the story. I enjoyed almost everything but I have little bits as issues so I will try to mention them while being as respectful as I can be.

Let me say it again I definitely LOVE the game! All I am gonna say will be in the hopes of not letting this game lose or waste its potential. I am gonna put my examples in spoilers so no one would be, well, not spoiled.

My biggest issue is: Repeating Dialogues and thoughts of MC!

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My second issue is about the how MC handles or fails to act accordingly to a "certain problem" that he should not waste anytime imo and he definitely needs to address it. I am gonna put this part again in "spoilers" thats why I wasn't clear on my issue here.

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This is becoming a very long post so I will try to wrap it.

I am PERFECTLY okay with side contents, character build-ups, getting to know characters, storytellings, and not rushing the content. Take your time thats definitely okay in my book. I am even satisfied with the amount of "little something-something" side of things.

Here is a big but:

I am NOT content with repeating monologues, dialogues, conversation, "x" character thoughts, MC thoughts etc. These become fillers after repeating the same point over and over again. Hell, even I am being a filler here and I am not content with myself neither but I need to get these out of my system.

Please, I beg you, tone down the repeating-filler parts. If not repeating same topics over and over again is making the update smaller, just let it be small. Who cares? I would consume no matter what but I don't want to lose my attention here. Don't interrupt the flow with these please please please.

I really appriciate the effort you put forward. I just wanted to let these out my system.
Overall, great game with huuuuuuge potantial. Some times game itself(not the updates!) feels painfully slow like it needs to pick up the pace but as that feeling is not something I would consider "often-happening", I don't have any problem with it.

I am definitely happy to be part of this journey. I really hope you continue to deliver. No rush on the updates, you do you do when you feel like it.
I am glad to discover this gem. Definitely will easily be in my top 5.

I hope none of the points I am saying comes across as offensive, disrespectful or anything in that nature. These are just MY honest opinions from a humble follower perspective. Nobody has to share my views and nobody has to take it seriously, Everyone's right to ignore these are reserved for themselves. I mean no harm or hurt.

Waiting patiently for the next update!
I wish you the best of the best.

 

[Grif1001]

isn't she just his step mother? When does two completely non blood related person having sex considered as incest? It against the dictionary definition of the word. Also if Step mother would be considered as incest for some reason, most of the videos on pornhub would be deleted since even implying real incest is forbidden there. Step-sis, step-mom is okay tho. On Patreon I know multiple games where you fuck your step-mother or foster mother or your step-sis (hell even real incest in multiple popular games on patreon and yes without any patch or defining relationship). Does Patreon really ban non-blood step relations?

Not even step-mother, right? Isn't she's his adoptive mother, so there never was any relation of any kind with her? After his birth mother got into tough circumstances, she asked Azel to take the MC and care for him, right? I don't remember Azel ever actually being married to the MC's birth father.

Ah, right. But my main point was that she was never in a relationship with his blood father, so it wouldn't even be step-mother. So I guess "adoptive" mother is the closest she is.

From a Developer/Patreon relationship view... Patreon views incest as sex between any characters who have shared any type of familial relationship for a significant time, regardless of blood relations.

By their definition, foster children, who are never adopted, and are from not only different parents, but even from completely different races and nationalities, yet find themselves growing up in the same home for multiple years, and start calling each other brother and sister, who then develop a romantic attachment and have sex, constitutes incest.

So, since the MC grew up calling Azel "Mom" she is now Tabbo and in Patreons view fits the deffinition of incest were the MC to sleep with her.

And yes, as Dark Silence said, it does also have much to do with other larger infuences that Patreon is tied to. Patreon --never cared until outside forces began exerting financial pressure on them.

 

[TigerWolfe]

They will and all it takes is for one lil cunt to report it and bam. Done deal. There's far too many lil cunts around these days.

And with the ill will so many people have towards the Dev because of their (the dev's) chronic flakiness, you bet your ass as soon as they tried to code something with Azel, someone would report him, because they don't think he deserves the money he makes.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

From a Developer/Patreon relationship view... Patreon views incest as sex between any characters who have shared any type of familial relationship for a significant time, regardless of blood relations.

By their definition, foster children, who are never adopted, and are from not only different parents, but even from completely different races and nationalities, yet find themselves growing up in the same home for multiple years, and start calling each other brother and sister, who then develop a romantic attachment and have sex, constitutes incest.

So, since the MC grew up calling Azel "Mom" she is now Tabbo and in Patreons view fits the deffinition of incest were the MC to sleep with her.

And yes, as Dark Silence said, it does also have much to do with other larger infuences that Patreon is tied to. Patreon --never cared until outside forces began exerting financial pressure on them.

Pretty much it's because California and New York like to broadcast themselves as extremely openminded while also being extremely prudish in many ways. Patreon and its financial facilitators are pretty much headquartered in these two locations.

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Ironically, they censor this type of thing while allowing all kinds of corruption and actual problems to persist. The shit Hollywood gets up to is OK, but heaven forbid we allow stories with computer-generated characters to have incest in them. The massive homeless problems on the streets of Oakland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, and elsewhere are apparently absolutely fine, but holy shit we can't allow any high-school-aged relationships to be fictionalized with modern artistic tools — even though portrayed high school sex by films is completely kosher.

 

[divingmedic]

Pretty much it's because California and New York like to broadcast themselves as extremely openminded while also being extremely prudish in many ways. Patreon and its financial facilitators are pretty much headquartered in these two locations.

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Ironically, they censor this type of thing while allowing all kinds of corruption and actual problems to persist. The shit Hollywood gets up to is OK, but heaven forbid we allow stories with computer-generated characters to have incest in them. The massive homeless problems on the streets of Oakland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, and elsewhere are apparently absolutely fine, but holy shit we can't allow any high-school-aged relationships to be fictionalized with modern artistic tools — even though portrayed high school sex by films is completely kosher.

Yup, all kinds of stupid shit gets glorified on TV and in movies. Hell how many seasons of Teen Mom were there? I remember a few months back that one of big banks would not process debit card transactions for the purchase of guns or ammunition. If one has studied any amount of history it could lead one to conclusion that we direction the western nations is not good.

 

[timsoel]

Pretty much it's because California and New York like to broadcast themselves as extremely openminded while also being extremely prudish in many ways. Patreon and its financial facilitators are pretty much headquartered in these two locations.

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Ironically, they censor this type of thing while allowing all kinds of corruption and actual problems to persist. The shit Hollywood gets up to is OK, but heaven forbid we allow stories with computer-generated characters to have incest in them. The massive homeless problems on the streets of Oakland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, and elsewhere are apparently absolutely fine, but holy shit we can't allow any high-school-aged relationships to be fictionalized with modern artistic tools — even though portrayed high school sex by films is completely kosher.

'These places act like they're openminded, yet don't allow me to watch porn with under-aged characters' is one hell of a take. Are you okay?

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

'These places act like they're openminded, yet don't allow me to watch porn with under-aged characters' is one hell of a take. Are you okay?

Please. Stop pretending that's what I was saying. This might have been the stupidest and most dishonest interpretation of what I said you could have made. You're not really this obtuse IRL, are you?

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

Please. Stop pretending that's what I was saying. This might have been the stupidest and most dishonest interpretation of what I said you could have made. You're not really this obtuse IRL, are you?

I've noticed a lot of people like this lately. They twist people's words to try and make others look bad. Knowin full well most people don't try and read wtf is goin on.

 

[Thatbiscuit]

Question about the difference between the loyal path and cheat path, does the loyal path lock you out of other relationships other than your girlfriend, or is it a game where she becomes open to other girlfriends or something?

 

[Psykoman1978]

Question about the difference between the loyal path and cheat path, does the loyal path lock you out of other relationships other than your girlfriend, or is it a game where she becomes open to other girlfriends or something?

still harem but missing some content

 

[Psykoman1978]

Question about the difference between the loyal path and cheat path, does the loyal path lock you out of other relationships other than your girlfriend, or is it a game where she becomes open to other girlfriends or something?

same with rach´s offer

 

[PhoenixRage23]

Too bad we'll never see a 3some involving the MC, Harper and Natalie since there won't be any incest. Plus, I don't follow this game much anymore since the updates seem really small compared to a lot of other games that I play. I know a lot of devs can't put in full time to making their games if they aren't getting the funding or the exposure they need. Maybe in another 6 months I'll try it again with hopefully a lot of storyline updates with the girls that haven't seem to have theirs updated. Maybe we'll be lucky to see the S1 rework in the next year or two that ties in better to S2. I never did understand the disconnect since it seems S1 and S2 are completely different games.