Rodrigoofb

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Also, this message was meant for people on the Discord server not for people here. I typed it up because I always saw colored names(people who are paying money) complaining about how long things are taking.

When instead of all the complaining all they needed to do was unpledged it isn't like they lose anything by doing so right now because so long as you stay on the Discord server you continue getting most everything you pledged for anyway.
Patreon bot is fucked, i haven't supported the game since early 2021, but it still shows here, and on the discord with the proper role color. Just because you see people like that complaining, doesn't mean that they are still paying.
 

☣Sora☣

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Patreon bot is fucked, i haven't supported the game since early 2021, but it still shows here, and on the discord with the proper role color. Just because you see people like that complaining, doesn't mean that they are still paying.
The moment my pledge stopped I lost my colored name and role on discord that is the only reason I figured they were still pledged.
 

Better Cock Spock

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I was saying that BD shouldn't need to be the one to pause pledges if people dislike the fact that he keeps "lying" then they should cancel their pledges themselves. Instead of canceling their pledge they choose to continue to pay and bitch about him taking their money while not putting in the work to earn it. I am not telling people to not criticize him. I am just stating what such over-criticizing could lead to.

As I have mentioned being overly critical has and will cause Devs to just stop making a game.
And to be fair as I said I stopped playing when "S2" started so I have no idea how the "story" has changed.

But everyone has their own opinion on things and that is all well and good.

Happy Gaming everyone.
There's different kinds of Patrons. There's normal people, who pay him and expect something for it. He hasn't done anything in months, so presumably those people have hopefully stopped paying him by now.

But there's people who pay him no matter what, because they think "quality takes time" and don't take into consideration how that doesn't apply to everything and everyone. They're the ones who keep lining his pockets despite getting nothing in return but excuses and sad stories. They don't seem to care if he's working or not, if they get the next update anytime soon. They feel good about themselves because they're helping a person in need, helping put food on his table. It's like a weird form of charity.

Patreon does not work on a simple system of goods and services, where a creator doesn't get paid if they don't create. If these certain people stopped paying, then BD would be forced to actually put in the work and earn his paycheck. BD pauses his pledges every now and then out of guilt, and those are the only times these certain people don't give him money.

Your post almost comes across as victim blaming, that it's his Patrons' fault for enabling BD for this bad behavior. But it's actually true, just not about the right group. The complainers are not the ones paying him no matter what.

Anyway, you were advocating for people to vent into a word document rather than actively criticize in the Discord.
And yes he is partially in this for the money since he went full-time with this he has to support his family somehow. He isn’t a triple-A dev that makes massive money from sales of his game; he relies on Patreon to help him support his family. So causing him to pause subs just puts even more stress on him which in turn will cause more issues to arise with the game meaning slower updates. So instead of coming onto Discord and complaining about things, open a Word document and vent your frustrations on it.
So maybe it isn't exactly "shut up and pay him", since the ones who you think need to shut up aren't the ones that pay him, but the sentiment is still there.
"Whining causes paused updates, causes stress, causes problems, causes slower updates."
 

shamtiiomi

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a question ....if i ask BD to return the money i pay back when i was a sub ...he will do it?
is rethorical no need to answer,but i want my money back or the fucking game finished ,....wich of this one will come first do you think?
clearly any of that will happend ,but i really hope he try to go to steam so i can openly roast him for not doing what he is suppose to do,...and for scamming ppl in the open,............if he didnt lie i will never gove him a fuck dollar,....andstill have the receipts form patron to my card....
 

☣Sora☣

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a question ....if i ask BD to return the money i pay back when i was a sub ...he will do it?
is rethorical no need to answer,but i want my money back or the fucking game finished ,....wich of this one will come first do you think?
clearly any of that will happend ,but i really hope he try to go to steam so i can openly roast him for not doing what he is suppose to do,...and for scamming ppl in the open,............if he didnt lie i will never gove him a fuck dollar,....andstill have the receipts form patron to my card....
I know this may upset you but you can request a refund and if BD refuses you can appeal it. In witch time Patreon will review the request and if they feel you have a good claim they will force a refund. According to Patreons refund policy.
 

Individual

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This is BrainShit in disguise. I knew it. Same duck in profile photo as Discord just different angle :devilish:
You've caught me.

Since this got removed from the Discord, I will post it here as I feel it is a positive message that people need to see.

skipped the giant backstory paragraph because who cares

Keep up the great work BD. I look forward to finally playing WVM again in the future.
You post this big paragraph about your experience with the game and your hopes for it going forwards all while praising Braindrop and they delete it. You then decide that your message is so important that it needs to be posted here instead? All you deluded Braincultists who think that the update will come out faster if there are more "positive messages" are absolutely cooked. The negativity isn't why Braindrop is not releasing updates, the negativity is a result of Braindrop not releasing updates. Braindrop isn't releasing updates because the Braincultists pay him thousands of dollars a month regardless of whether he releases an update or not so there is literally zero incentive for him to do any work.

Keep up the great work? How is Braindrop doing great work? He's done almost nothing for two or three years straight. If you're looking forward to playing this in the future, then you might want to hurry up and discover time travel because you'll be dead before this game even comes close to finishing. Braindrop releases one small update a year, maybe two if it's a really good year.

I don't get why all of you are so intent on supporting Braindrop and praising him. This is just one giant abusive relationship where you've all become way too invested in the game and Braindrop knows it. He knows that people will keep giving him money as long as he does the absolute bare minimum to keep them hooked. This thread is pretty much just here to shit post about Braindrop at this point, we've abandoned good vibes and positive feedback long ago.
 
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The D0n

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I know this may upset you but you can request a refund and if BD refuses you can appeal it. In witch time Patreon will review the request and if they feel you have a good claim they will force a refund. According to Patreons refund policy.
...you sound like a Complaints Department manager. Good news is that everything posted here is free, no need for the financial advice outside of Patreon.

Before you protest your innocence simply read your milk toast responses all diverting any issue with the Dev.
 

Banana4Fun

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You're basically saying to shut up and keep paying him, that way he can put out an update faster without all the complaining to distract him. How incredibly naive and misguided.

This update should've been fully completed last year, and it's been over 6 months since the last partial. The Discord server is filled with sycophants who pat his head and tell him he's doing a good job despite having nothing to show for it. He supposedly hired someone he trusts to force out whatever is ready if he misses deadlines, which not only never happened, but also isn't even the first time he's said that. He makes promises left and right, and breaks them constantly, especially ones he never should've made in the first place like 52/52 and pausing for the rest of the year.

All of this is happening because you people pay him no matter what, like he's your friend that just needs some help to get back on his feet. He has no incentive to work because he gets money for nothing. I thought things might start changing after the last update, with all the dissent brewing on Discord, but the mods cracked down real hard. Even your pathetic but extremely benign response was removed. That should tell you something.

Nothing will happen if nothing changes.
Can I, like, pay you to speak on my behalf please? You have such a lovely way with words.
 

Individual

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I was saying that BD shouldn't need to be the one to pause pledges if people dislike the fact that he keeps "lying" then they should cancel their pledges themselves. Instead of canceling their pledge they choose to continue to pay and bitch about him taking their money while not putting in the work to earn it. I am not telling people to not criticize him. I am just stating what such over-criticizing could lead to.
Braindrop is constantly baiting them by setting release dates, so they keep subscribing because they think the update is about to come out. People could cancel their subscription at any time they want to because that's their choice. It's also their choice to criticize him and the people who support him as much as they want to.

Also, I'm not sure why you put "lying" in quotes. He is lying, that is an undisputable fact. If he were honest and released the content when he said he would then there'd be almost no criticism. He's brought it all on himself, there's nobody to blame for it but him and the people who enable him to keep doing it.

There's a clear difference between being an optimist and being a blind optimist. At some point you have to face reality and realize that Braindrop is going to keep being a flake regardless of what you say or do.
 

jonnyd901

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I know this may upset you but you can request a refund and if BD refuses you can appeal it. In witch time Patreon will review the request and if they feel you have a good claim they will force a refund. According to Patreons refund policy.
Good luck with that because he will refuse it, if Patreon take it further he only got to say they've paid for my work and future work so they won't get involved regarding the bullshit he spews
 

Akabakka

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Your post almost comes across as victim blaming
"Whining causes paused updates, causes stress, causes problems, causes slower updates."
Whatever his actual intent when making that argument .... it is exactly that . There is no way he is spinning the tale that somehow the "overflow and absurd amount of complaints" is negatively affecting BD's creativity and the quality of the game . Not only it does not work that way for most games , but in this instance it's easy to disprove hogwash . If Braindrop felt truly beholden to negative opinions and critics , he'd have already fixed some of the sources of ridicule . Like the Blackbox or the duckfaces . He'd also have buckled under pressure and put back the constantly requested incest elements , even on separate patches and platforms .
Instead he proudly doubled down , and always did his thing . He chose to bait his audience , to lie about deadlines and stuff , created fake staff , and never gave one hint of listening to any feedback about the direction of the game .
 
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KATOLINE

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Someone should make a mod that changes every female in the game to some form of family member. Cousin or sister or whatever else. Then we see if we can get him banned from patreon for incest content. It probably wouldn't work but can you imagine how fucking hilarious it would be if it did.
 
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Someone should make a mod that changes every female in the game to some form of family member. Cousin or sister or whatever else. Then we see if we can get him banned from patreon for incest content. It probably wouldn't work but can you imagine how fucking hilarious it would be if it did.
A fan made patch?
Too much work.
Maybe it could work with Rachell, Shaundra and Jamie since they are very close and almost always together.
 
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