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Devil's Advocate: is it possible he posted back when this thread was under heavy moderation and his comments were all deleted for being inflammatory? I know the mods let us talk about almost anything tangentially relevant now, but that wasn't always the case.
 

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Devil's Advocate: is it possible he posted back when this thread was under heavy moderation and his comments were all deleted for being inflammatory? I know the mods let us talk about almost anything tangentially relevant now, but that wasn't always the case.
No, that dude has a habit of coming into threads, making stupid comments and then dirty deleting them when he doesn't get whatever reception he's looking for. Best way to handle him is to not react to his posts but instead quote and clown on him.
 
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Ptah

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ok let me ask you this ....who the fuck is zetan???,if he is so much underrated at least he have something good going on?i mean no disrecpect for the dev you are mentioning but ,if he is so good something bad he is doing bcs ,he is not in the converstaion for anything,...this not comparing devs....by your words you are comparing someone like kaufman\crane[the writter of friends]with someone like stephen king....is not fair at all....one os for the med audiences or massives,and the other one is for some ppl,.....you dont make a classic in the day....no for cars,no for movies,not for anything,....and of c is subjective....no matter who say the contrary.
but saying some dev is better than other bcs he do deep shit dont make the other dev bad,...99% of the cases, cult literature or whatever is call today have poor media and sales development unless is a classic,...bd is better ..no ofc no..but i dont know zetan...or what he is doing....but bd make money of it...scamming or lying and even shit and disrecpect others,...but in the end and ofc take it with"" ppl talking....alot...and in media there is something is worst than bad rewievs or bad adds is called no talk at all....
Man, you don't even know who the fuck Zetan is and dare to talk. A lot of you guys here know jack shit about VN devs in general, and still dare to review or judge or say were the bar is... HOW the fuck you can judge anything if you don't know the ceiling level. OFC you would find "Friends" writing FANTASTIC if everything you have watch before is "Sesame Street"...
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It is sad that money can change someone so much. He started with a decent concept. If you can't handle social interaction,my suggestion would be don't setup a discord channel. Make your AVN put it out and continue with the avn or continue with your life. I know it was a unimaginable story and pure fantasy,but we are not looking for real life (i hope not). i might or might not have some kinks that i can't do in real life so i will try the wildest avn i can find just for the pure fantasy of it. Just to be clear i am not talking about sadistic things,just things people i socialize with are not open to. Wvm was a choice based avn with a little of everything. I think he let the avn control him instead of him controlling the avn. IT makes me sad to see it happen to anyone.
I agree in part, with what you say. But the "fantasy" part is total BS. Because it actually works the other way around. The more fantasy or crazy setting you choose, the more realism you want in it. And even with that, even a fantasy world has his own rules, you can't just justify some parts of a story with "it was a mage". NO ONE likes a story filled with deus ex machina to the brim.
 

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Something just occurred to me and I'm disappointed I didn't realize this earlier. I've finally figured out what the hell is going on with BD. This might sound like a joke because I bash this moron all the time and he deserves it, but I'm serious here. I'm 99% percent certain that BD is a drug addict, and no I'm not trying to give him an excuse. It really explains all his behavior if you think about it. The lies, nothing getting done, the desperate need for money despite making a good living, and why he seems like a completely different person now. This is all incredibly common with drug addicts. Unfortunately I've had many friends and family members go through these struggles. So why this may seem like it's out of nowhere, trust me it's not.
 

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Man, you don't even know who the fuck Zetan is and dare to talk. A lot of you guys here know jack shit about VN devs in general, and still dare to review or judge or say were the bar is... HOW the fuck you can judge anything if you don't know the ceiling level. OFC you would find "Friends" writing FANTASTIC if everything you have watch before is "Sesame Street"...
:WeSmart: :WeSmart: :WeSmart:
dare to talk?me? yeah not only dare kiddo but i can do more than that,but i dont disrecpect other ppl for playing starfucking citizen or hwaterver you are playing on your p5....i dont kink shame anybody and dont need to know all the dev's names who do 2 updates or 19 [whatever] to know that i didt like the game or not,.....ds is a good game but isnt for me,....ntr,sandbox, those 2 i dont even play in the same game at all not that one not anything,..ds is a good game and thats all,..is my taste not yours and even if you dont like i dont tell you to fuck off and lgo play again zelda 23 thousand....
 

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Something just occurred to me and I'm disappointed I didn't realize this earlier. I've finally figured out what the hell is going on with BD. This might sound like a joke because I bash this moron all the time and he deserves it, but I'm serious here. I'm 99% percent certain that BD is a drug addict, and no I'm not trying to give him an excuse. It really explains all his behavior if you think about it. The lies, nothing getting done, the desperate need for money despite making a good living, and why he seems like a completely different person now. This is all incredibly common with drug addicts. Unfortunately I've had many friends and family members go through these struggles. So why this may seem like it's out of nowhere, trust me it's not.
Well i don't doubt that " Unfortunately I've had many friends and family members go through these struggles. So why this may seem like it's out of nowhere, trust me it's not." But just for the sake of argument and sharing a thought about what you said, Id BD does use drugs wouldn't his familly take any type of measures to save his life from the addiction by sending him in a rehab clinic??? I mean no disrespect to you for thinking that but it seems logical to me that if i had a brother/son/nephew etc addicted to drugs to actually do something to help him out
 

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update was pretty good, although the game is giving me some mystic/cult vibes. Maybe going to say the MC is "something" more than a normal person... some of his girls are addicted to him... to the point some are having serious withdrawal when his is not around. But maybe it is something else...

anyway I hope we get the missing renders and story soon.
peace
 

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update was pretty good, although the game is giving me some mystic/cult vibes. Maybe going to say the MC is "something" more than a normal person... some of his girls are addicted to him... to the point some are having serious withdrawal when his is not around. But maybe it is something else...

anyway I hope we get the missing renders and story soon.
peace
" although the game is giving me some mystic/cult vibes. Maybe going to say the MC is "something" more than a normal person... some of his girls are addicted to him.. "well i saw that thing in many college/highschool themed movies happening especially whent the protagonist is somekind of super star athlete ,many girls in those shows /movies go crazy for him
 

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Something just occurred to me and I'm disappointed I didn't realize this earlier. I've finally figured out what the hell is going on with BD. This might sound like a joke because I bash this moron all the time and he deserves it, but I'm serious here. I'm 99% percent certain that BD is a drug addict, and no I'm not trying to give him an excuse. It really explains all his behavior if you think about it. The lies, nothing getting done, the desperate need for money despite making a good living, and why he seems like a completely different person now. This is all incredibly common with drug addicts. Unfortunately I've had many friends and family members go through these struggles. So why this may seem like it's out of nowhere, trust me it's not.
that could be it but my theory that i brought up multiple times before about the dev being a different person seems starts seeming more and more plausible
 
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Ptah

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dare to talk?me? yeah not only dare kiddo but i can do more than that,but i dont disrecpect other ppl for playing starfucking citizen or hwaterver you are playing on your p5....i dont kink shame anybody and dont need to know all the dev's names who do 2 updates or 19 [whatever] to know that i didt like the game or not,.....ds is a good game but isnt for me,....ntr,sandbox, those 2 i dont even play in the same game at all not that one not anything,..ds is a good game and thats all,..is my taste not yours and even if you dont like i dont tell you to fuck off and lgo play again zelda 23 thousand....
OH, you're just confused, I don't give a flying fuck what your taste is, but seeing what you consider "good writing" like this or grandma... I already know your taste SUCKS. And YES art is OBJECTIVE, all that bullshit that everything depends on taste is BULLSHIT. ALL art has parameters to measure it's quality. So, yes, you're totally entitled to have your own taste, and in your case, to be disgustingly horrible. I wouldn't give a fuck if you feed yourself with dog turds, but don't make ME pretend you're a "gourmet". You got it?
 

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Well i don't doubt that " Unfortunately I've had many friends and family members go through these struggles. So why this may seem like it's out of nowhere, trust me it's not." But just for the sake of argument and sharing a thought about what you said, Id BD does use drugs wouldn't his familly take any type of measures to save his life from the addiction by sending him in a rehab clinic??? I mean no disrespect to you for thinking that but it seems logical to me that if i had a brother/son/nephew etc addicted to drugs to actually do something to help him out
Well I'm not on the inside to have the answer to that. But if you want reasons why that wouldn't happen. They may have their own problems (drugs or other) or are simply enabling him not realizing the extent of the problem. You also forget that he is supporting them, if he wasn't lying about that. Which brings in the golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules. He could also just say if I have to go to rehab I have to pause and then you can't pay your bills. There are a bunch of reason why they wouldn't or couldn't step in. I don't know the people he has around him. But addicts are usually surrounded with enablers and other addicts.

Look I don't know BD at all. Feel free to chalk this up as someone's random speculation. Though I'd bet real money right now that he'd fail a drug test today, and I don't mean for marijuana. There are simply to many signs for me to think I'm wrong. Hopefully I am because I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Even BD. Probably :devilish:
 

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Well I'm not on the inside to have the answer to that. But if you want reasons why that wouldn't happen. They may have their own problems (drugs or other) or are simply enabling him not realizing the extent of the problem. You also forget that he is supporting them, if he wasn't lying about that. Which brings in the golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules. He could also just say if I have to go to rehab I have to pause and then you can't pay your bills. There are a bunch of reason why they wouldn't or couldn't step in. I don't know the people he has around him. But addicts are usually surrounded with enablers and other addicts.

Look I don't know BD at all. Feel free to chalk this up as someone's random speculation. Though I'd bet real money right now that he'd fail a drug test today, and I don't mean for marijuana. There are simply to many signs for me to think I'm wrong. Hopefully I am because I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Even BD. Probably :devilish:
Well i don't know BD either it's just my opinion in what could be the case if he is a drug addict ... I hope that you are wrong as well , i had a family friend who was a drug addict and his parents were struggling to help him deal with that so that is why i asked the hypothetical question....
 

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that could be it but my theory that i brought up multiple times before about the dev being a different person seems starts seeming more and more plausible
I might be wrong but if the dev is a different person shouldn't he create a different Patreon account for the financing of the game ???I am just saying that is what i would expect if someone other than BD ever took over the game to make a new Patreon account
 

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that could be it but my theory that i brought up multiple times before about the dev being a different person seems starts seeming more and more plausible
I thought this was a possibility at one point, because he seems so different and the development went off the rails. Looking at it realistically though I'd say it's highly unlikely. This game was so successful right from the start. How much would it take to buy it out? At least a few hundred thousand if it was me. That's just the starting point. If he kept a percentage of the game I'm sure he'd have the option to take the game back if the development wasn't to his liking or if the new developer was bleeding supporters. That's something you would do with someone you know and trust. Whoever this is sure as shit isn't trustworthy.

Hey almost anything is possible, life has taught me that.

Well i don't know BD either it's just my opinion in what could be the case if he is a drug addict ... I hope that you are wrong as well , i had a family friend who was a drug addict and his parents were struggling to help him deal with that so that is why i asked the hypothetical question....
Yeah it's a nightmare. Hopefully it worked out okay for them.

I might be wrong but if the dev is a different person shouldn't he create a different Patreon account for the financing of the game ???I am just saying that is what i would expect if someone other than BD ever took over the game to make a new Patreon account
Unless it's a friend and they didn't want anyone to know out of fear of losing support. I don't think that's the case, but it's possible. As much as things have gone off the rails I think he would've taken development back. Unless he's getting money and doesn't care.
 
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