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Read the mini-FAQ in the OP.
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I wish we could do that man it would save a lot of time for those of us who respond to the same few questions over an over again. I put the link in my signature hoping that it would help a little with the questions as well but I don't think people notice that either.
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Try a bigger letter size. Or you could do what I always do, which is not reply and let one of the other regulars deal with the frustration.
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Considering he's gone through the trouble of posting and maintaining the faq and also tried to create a sig for the game pretty sure he is a regular by now. At the very least I consider him oneTry a bigger letter size. Or you could do what I always do, which is not reply and let one of the other regulars deal with the frustration.
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Darn Tootin' he's a regular. And he's gone above and beyond with his FAQ, which is why I said to let one of the other regulars step up. Not me though. I'd probably be likeConsidering he's gone through the trouble of posting and maintaining the faq and also tried to create a sig for the game pretty sure he is a regular by now. At the very least I consider him one
ME: None of your FAQing bussiness.
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As a regular, I put the FAQ link in my signature as well. We'll see how much good that'll do, I'm more of a lurker currently.
That faq, and by extension the interview doesn't really cover Azel. She isn't a relative.
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As far as Paypal/Mastercard and by extension Patreon is concerned she is so until the time comes to mod in extra content her along with MC's birth mother and Willow won't be getting any content.
No point asking when they will either, that more than likely won't be until the end.
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You mean Azel who is quoted, by name, in both the FAQ and the interview as someone who won't have a sexual relationship? I mean she's the first person listed in that section of the FAQ. And the question in the interview that refers to family relationships is specifically about Azel. So they both cover Azel as much as anything can cover anything in life.
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she close enough to piss off patreon hence why both the faq and the interview unequivocally state there won't be any sex with her without outside intervention
edited: fucking draft backups >_<
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So because it was starting to vex me not knowing what the rules were, I looked up the Community Guidelines on Patreon. And I'm a little confused and annoyed.
"However, we have zero tolerance when it comes to the glorification of sexual violence which includes bestiality, rape, and child exploitation (i.e., sexualized depiction of minors). This is true for illustrated, animated, or any other type of creations. Patreon reserves the right to review and remove accounts that may violate this guideline.
We also do not allow other fringe sexual fetish creations, such as incest, necrophilia, or fetish creations that is hard to distinguish from non-consensual sex.
We understand that some topics on this list such as incest or rape are a little bit more complicated because these situations are, unfortunately, part of real life. As a result, when reviewing these types of creations, the Trust and Safety team will take into consideration context including personal, historical or educational narrative. For example, survivor stories or fiction such as Game of Thrones or Lolita are allowed on Patreon."
So some of that makes sense to me, some doesn't.
So rape isn't okay? Really? Aren't there tons of games on this site that feature non-consensual sex that also get funded through Patreon that don't need a "rape patch" or something to that effect? Yeah, oftentimes in these games it only gets framed as "reluctant" or something similar but seeing how fickle they are concerning incest (i.e. Azel is apparently not okay even though she's only your adoptive mom), they seem to be pretty lax concerning rape.
And to that point, they say "some topics [...] such as incest or rape [...] are, unfortunately, part of real life". So they seem to really be making an equivalency between rape and incest? I'd strongly argue that rape, in any context, is far more objectionable than (consensual) incest. But maybe they don't believe consensual incest can exist? Well then they don't seem to really be reviewing the games they're restricting.
But then violence like on Game of Thrones or essentially ch!ld porn like Lolita is okay because it's fiction? But still not incest?
Then you look at other games which contain rape, extreme violence and obviously incest but only the incest part is a problem for Patreon and needs a patch?
You can of course put this whole twisted logic just down to some puritanical belief system, but obviously that's not the case since they are very selective towards incest in that regard. It's weird to me to have such a problem with incest but apparently their other objections concerning rape, sexual violence and child pornography are just glossed over constantly.
I mean, WVM is one of the most wholesome games out there. There is nothing here like rape or (non-consensual) violence. If you still have a problem with the incest, okay, whatever, I get it's a taboo thing in our culture. But then to restrict that but not some other brutal violence or sexual assault?
This post probably doesn't belong in this specific thread and is pretty off-topic so to avoid getting nuked by the mods please only respond with WVM-specific answers ;D
"However, we have zero tolerance when it comes to the glorification of sexual violence which includes bestiality, rape, and child exploitation (i.e., sexualized depiction of minors). This is true for illustrated, animated, or any other type of creations. Patreon reserves the right to review and remove accounts that may violate this guideline.
We also do not allow other fringe sexual fetish creations, such as incest, necrophilia, or fetish creations that is hard to distinguish from non-consensual sex.
We understand that some topics on this list such as incest or rape are a little bit more complicated because these situations are, unfortunately, part of real life. As a result, when reviewing these types of creations, the Trust and Safety team will take into consideration context including personal, historical or educational narrative. For example, survivor stories or fiction such as Game of Thrones or Lolita are allowed on Patreon."
So some of that makes sense to me, some doesn't.
So rape isn't okay? Really? Aren't there tons of games on this site that feature non-consensual sex that also get funded through Patreon that don't need a "rape patch" or something to that effect? Yeah, oftentimes in these games it only gets framed as "reluctant" or something similar but seeing how fickle they are concerning incest (i.e. Azel is apparently not okay even though she's only your adoptive mom), they seem to be pretty lax concerning rape.
And to that point, they say "some topics [...] such as incest or rape [...] are, unfortunately, part of real life". So they seem to really be making an equivalency between rape and incest? I'd strongly argue that rape, in any context, is far more objectionable than (consensual) incest. But maybe they don't believe consensual incest can exist? Well then they don't seem to really be reviewing the games they're restricting.
But then violence like on Game of Thrones or essentially ch!ld porn like Lolita is okay because it's fiction? But still not incest?
Then you look at other games which contain rape, extreme violence and obviously incest but only the incest part is a problem for Patreon and needs a patch?
You can of course put this whole twisted logic just down to some puritanical belief system, but obviously that's not the case since they are very selective towards incest in that regard. It's weird to me to have such a problem with incest but apparently their other objections concerning rape, sexual violence and child pornography are just glossed over constantly.
I mean, WVM is one of the most wholesome games out there. There is nothing here like rape or (non-consensual) violence. If you still have a problem with the incest, okay, whatever, I get it's a taboo thing in our culture. But then to restrict that but not some other brutal violence or sexual assault?
This post probably doesn't belong in this specific thread and is pretty off-topic so to avoid getting nuked by the mods please only respond with WVM-specific answers ;D
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Try and search in the Off topic section as there are several threads discussing this same issue. Basically one per week or so
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Yeah, it seems really weird to me. Here in Canada, rape is always illegal. Incest is only illegal if it involves blood siblings/halfsiblings, blood parent/child, grandparent/grandchildren. Azel wouldn't be even sort of incest and neither would anything with the sister if it had of happened before day 7 because it legally requires knowledge of blood relation here. It just seems weird to ban something that is both in a legal grey area and heavily present in fiction.
Can't be a patreon author writing sexy books involving old royal families. Might have incest. Seems dumb. Also what in the hell kind of historical or educational narrative does Game of Thrones have? A hot guy sexing his hot aunt, while two hot siblings bang. I may love it, but it seems like Patreon's own example doesn't meet its own criteria.
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To be honest most of it is a shame. WVM is fiction and not reality so it should fall into the same category as some of your other examples (Same applies to all the other games, an other expressions of art). I think the real difference is these games are not main stream media like the other examples and people can say well the actors are not really related or really that young. If people did try those arguments with Patreon/Paypal ect... then they may lose business with these large media companies that may use their services for other projects that fall within the rules, because they singled out a few projects here and there so they don't. Main Stream media is acceptable to the majority of the public (sure there are crazy factions out there that are basically against everything, but that is the minority), while the Porn industry and lewd game industry is not widely accepted by the majority of the public (well behind closed doors it seems these are more acceptable then in public). Oh well just my thoughts I better stop now before I keep rambling on and on.
Back to wondering how the next update to WVM is going to be. Oh well time for another replay I think to satisfy my needs for more Jamie, Shauna, Bailey, Stacey and the rest of the beautiful women of WVM.
Back to wondering how the next update to WVM is going to be. Oh well time for another replay I think to satisfy my needs for more Jamie, Shauna, Bailey, Stacey and the rest of the beautiful women of WVM.
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It was never clarified to me at least if Azel is Biggus Dickus' formal adoptive mother or Biggus Dickus' formal warden. But since BD (hurhur see what I did there?) is now of college age and therefore an adult, all it would take is a couple of signatures to make Ay-Zee and BD non-related again, right? IDK don't know American Law.