VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch.1 Ep.13 F] [Braindrop]

[Rindarion]

If toxic is people getting upset by the fact of being told a release it dropping on this day. Only to have it delayed time and again. Than yeah probably pretty darn toxic here.

I know it been said before people here don't pay for the game as they are pirating it and have no rights to be upset. I would agree except for the fact that people keep posting here release dates and then delaying them along with the excuses. If this is just a pirate site than why not no info and just update when the update drops. It kind of seems like it poking a bear with a stick. Sure it might ignore you, but at some point something going to happen.

Well i got a surprise for you. Some of the ppl complaining here actually DOES pay for the game. Sorry mr. white knight but your point is moot.

 

[FreshRevenge]

These are rounding problems that occur when, for example, nowhere is rounded up. In the case of the percentages you mentioned, the numbers after the point (or comma, depending on where you are) were not sufficiently taken into account and therefore the missing 1% occurs accordingly, which are absolutely irrelevant for the final result, because they are insignificant.

Anyone who knows a little about math here can deduct there are 4 votes here. 1 vote for A and 3 votes for B

This is the main issue, isnt it. The constant posts to say the next big update is just days away. Most other devs would never dream of making such an announcement unless it really was true, because they understand the reputational damage that would come if they didn't follow through.

The fact that there has still been nothing, and the big 2k update which was nearly finished 6 months ago still hasn't been posted, and whatever hes worked on up to now still hasn't been posted, the only logical answer is that... there isn't anything? Or yknow, not nearly anything as much as has been claimed - maybe he has a few hundred renders and some ideas scribbled down in a notepad... He has been making stuff up to generate hype and keep the patreons paying. Its the only logical answer. I'm sure his intentions are true, he intends to do the things he says but just hasn't and can't bring himself to admit it.

I wonder why he makes the claim that the update is ready to go, even when it isn't? Is it really just a spiral of perfectionism? A spiral of editing and re-editing and never being happy with the product? But if so, why claim its basically ready if hes still planning to rework it?

Its got to be about the money, I'm sorry but it just has to be. No one is this naive.

He is doing this for the money, he can make up excuses about why the game is being delay. Because of redo's and whatever. His supporters just see tits and ass and give him the longest leash in the world. Yet this update was supposed to be out in January. I read all his Brain drops. Luckily just because you delete some of the patreon posts, there is always a hardcopy laying around somewhere.

This time he said he would release whatever was available on the 29th. There was no mention of a pole when he made that promise. But he posted a pole nearly on the day of the release just to delay because his beloved patreons voted on it. Yet the pole might as well been fixed to give him a reason to delay once again. Instead of him being a man of his word. I just wonder if he is charging people for his excuses at this point. Because they are pretty long to read.

Now of course we are on a website that is well known for being Captain Jack Sparrow of adult games. The way I see it, this site does a lot of good for these adult creators then they realize or want to admit. I am betting that most of BD patreons come from this site alone. So, people need to get off their high horse about the freebee BS. I have supported a few devs here and even purchase some of the games on Steam. Another thing I want to mention is most of these games are not finish. They are wip or pretty much demos in my opinion. I don't mind supporting but with BD case, he is dragging his feet in cement and expecting everyone to put up with the load of bs that he keeps telling people over and over again.

Now July 1 is this Friday. A lot of people are going to be celebrating the 4th of July. I bet that BD makes another excuse to release it after the 4th because he wants to spend it with family etc. In any other circumstance I would be okay with it. But here he always seems to conjure some excuse to push it back.

 

[motseer]

He has mentioned his grandpa and his bestfriend and his house flooding and getting married and becoming a father.. he has mentioned all of this... the problem is that he says one thing and then says another... WE all understand that, thats not the problem its the continuous "It's ready just fixing something here then ill release it" to "i feel its not perfect its driving me crazy i have to redo 2 renders" thats the problem its the whole I got you fam i got your back to then run away the moment shit happens. makes him look unreliable and makes him look like a liar. then doubts show up saying " hey maybe nobody passed maybe he's just milking" (i have seen these post) thats the problem and it gives ammo to people that are already fed up. Lets see if today he keeps his new promise he made in discord or will he break it again.

What you say is true enough. I think what most everyone has a problem with (whether they admit it or not) is his history of making promises and not delivering. They say there's a sucker born every minute. I doubt that he started out with an intent to rip anyone off. This guy runs his mouth too much. Plain and simple. It's his game, he can do what he wants and I could really care less. I admit I like the story and would like to see it continue. Just wish he would quit trying to blow smoke up my...

 

[OctoSky]

What you say is true enough. I think what most everyone has a problem with (whether they admit it or not) is his history of making promises and not delivering. They say there's a sucker born every minute. I doubt that he started out with an intent to rip anyone off. This guy runs his mouth too much. Plain and simple. It's his game, he can do what he wants and I could really care less. I admit I like the story and would like to see it continue. Just wish he would quit trying to blow smoke up my...

ass. You didn't finish the sentence.

 

[NotTheReal16]

I'm not being funny but this guy is self-employed. He makes his own deadlines.

He makes deadlines, then cancels on them. No one is forcing this guy to release statements like "I'm definitely definitely going to post two updates in June". Hes doing this to himself.

He would have known on MONDAY of this week that he wouldn't be able to deliver the update by FRIDAY of the same week. It doesn't take a genius to see that. Yet he STILL decided to release a statement saying that, yet again, the update is definitely definitely coming soon.

And implying that people are entitled becasue they expect you to deliver on your promises, and get mad when you don't, is gaslighting. Simple as. People are annoyed that this guy is yet again going back on his word with a dull excuse. No shit, sherlock.

BD needs to take time away from this game, and from social media/patreon/discord. I imagine he is stressed as fuck and probably having constant panics due to having to deliver bad news over and over again, hell I would be too. Stop over promising your fans and yourself. Step away. Turn off your patreon (if its just a hobby after all?), cancel subs indefinitely. Take responcibility for this shit.

Man you spittin facts

 

[lemonfreak]

Anyone who knows a little about math here can deduct there are 4 votes here. 1 vote for A and 3 votes for B


He is doing this for the money, he can make up excuses about why the game is being delay. Because of redo's and whatever. His supporters just see tits and ass and give him the longest leash in the world. Yet this update was supposed to be out in January. I read all his Brain drops. Luckily just because you delete some of the patreon posts, there is always a hardcopy laying around somewhere.

This time he said he would release whatever was available on the 29th. There was no mention of a pole when he made that promise. But he posted a pole nearly on the day of the release just to delay because his beloved patreons voted on it. Yet the pole might as well been fixed to give him a reason to delay once again. Instead of him being a man of his word. I just wonder if he is charging people for his excuses at this point. Because they are pretty long to read.

Now of course we are on a website that is well known for being Captain Jack Sparrow of adult games. The way I see it, this site does a lot of good for these adult creators then they realize or want to admit. I am betting that most of BD patreons come from this site alone. So, people need to get off their high horse about the freebee BS. I have supported a few devs here and even purchase some of the games on Steam. Another thing I want to mention is most of these games are not finish. They are wip or pretty much demos in my opinion. I don't mind supporting but with BD case, he is dragging his feet in cement and expecting everyone to put up with the load of bs that he keeps telling people over and over again.

Now July 1 is this Friday. A lot of people are going to be celebrating the 4th of July. I bet that BD makes another excuse to release it after the 4th because he wants to spend it with family etc. In any other circumstance I would be okay with it. But here he always seems to conjure some excuse to push it back.

Poll, not pole

 

[StantheMan69]

Well i got a surprise for you. Some of the ppl complaining here actually DOES pay for the game. Sorry mr. white knight but your point is moot.

Maybe you should read the post I was replying to. Someone posted that they hope BD doesn't give any update cause here on these forums are some of the most toxic people they ever saw. (Their Words Not Mine)

I was replying back sarcastically that if being upset and feeling lied to makes people toxic. Which to mean doesn't make them toxic. Than a lot of people here would be toxic.

I wasn't white knighting for anyone and re-read my post I said and I quote "I know it been said before people here don't pay for the game as they are pirating it and have no rights to be upset. I WOULD agree EXCEPT for the fact that people keep posting here release dates and then delaying them along with the excuses.

That sounds to me like I am actually saying people have the right to be angry and distrustful of BD. Even if they do or do not pay for the game. Did you even read my whole post or just a few word from each sentence and get made and reply thinking I was calling people toxic and defending? If so you would be wrong.

 

[Rindarion]

Wow! Discord seems to almost exclusively host ppl that have their tounges so far up BD:s ass that they can almost taste his breakfast

 

[FreshRevenge]

Wow! Discord seems to almost exclusively host ppl that have their tounges so far up BD:s ass that they can almost taste his breakfast

a breakfast burrito???

 

[MadMonk]

Did I miss this time's sob story for the supposed release?

 

[FreshRevenge]

Did I miss this time's sob story for the supposed release?

Yes he originally stated the game would be releasing today (today is the 29th right), yet yesterday he posted some poll to give his lovely patreons the option to release a bigger update on the first to the 3rd of July. I think the whole poll was hotwired to win in his favor. Probably with him providing the most votes to tip the scale.

Probably the vote started like they wanted the small update on the 29th and BD said "Oh hell no, vote for b, vote for b, vote for b. The Patreons have spoken"

 

[OctoSky]

Did I miss this time's sob story for the supposed release?

Braindrop said on Discord that he is gonna release what he has today later tonight, the 29th. If he has no one has said anything. So you might be right on time for the sob story. This time he is having severe period cramps.

 

[Wen I Say]

However there is a huge difference between holding someone accountable and what most people are doing here.

Which is what? To my knowledge, no one has really up the anti which is good I'm not advocating someone do some ignorantly stupid shit it's been kept rightly so in-house, About what people think of the state of wvm and BD's personnel (but no really)hangups. When BD says something anything really people are skeptical since the majority of us here are thinking "lie to me once shame on you..." Makes sense to me that people are kinda sorta really pissed with delay after delay then DITL harper after 10 months which breaks the storyline. That and BD in his infinite wisdom decides to try to pull a rabbit out his ass two thousand rabbits to be exact would have been a dope trick except for the rabbits were invisible and only he can see them.....Then comes out the 10months old anni's that he has to redo which is a shock to everyone since no one has heard about them...Then now this uno reverse yet again and the nut kick this is my hobby bro chill line. The thing with transparency is it works both ways if you want to keep it real with people you then can't get mad when they then decide to keep it real with you and tell you how you are in their eyes at this moment. A lot of people misinterpret frustration as toxic no one as I said to my knowledge has jumped off the edge of intelligence and has committed a party foul because they would truly be excommunicated there are enough weirdo's here to get you alts alts alt banned so explain what's been so bad here? All BD needs to do is pull his head out of his ass take a breath and crack on.

 

[lemonfreak]

Braindrop said on Discord that he is gonna release what he has today later tonight, the 29th. If he has no one has said anything. So you might be right on time for the sob story. This time he is having severe period cramps.

Well that was a lie then because it's the 30th now

 

[SeveredPaladin1]

still the 29th east coast time for another 2 1/2 hours

 

[Wen I Say]

hahaha
so you're upset over something that the dev has no control over.. right.. makes sense.

He doesn't set release dates? the dates people give come from the dev............. lol you're supposed to hold the shield out not step on it guy....

 

[juan palote]

Yes he originally stated the game would be releasing today (today is the 29th right), yet yesterday he posted some poll to give his lovely patreons the option to release a bigger update on the first to the 3rd of July. I think the whole poll was hotwired to win in his favor. Probably with him providing the most votes to tip the scale.

Probably the vote started like they wanted the small update on the 29th and BD said "Oh hell no, vote for b, vote for b, vote for b. The Patreons have spoken"

Again?.... For gods sake, why do the Patreons keep pushing him down the rabbit hole?

He needs to release something to get his anxiety off his shoulders...

The Patreons keep not helpíng at all...

 

[MadMonk]

Yes he originally stated the game would be releasing today (today is the 29th right), yet yesterday he posted some poll to give his lovely patreons the option to release a bigger update on the first to the 3rd of July.

So his supporters (I stopped suporting him on Patreon last July) think that 4 days more will give him enough time to make a bigger update than what he said he would release today on the 29th.
Wow some people are reeeeeeealy stupid, but I guess he has now a convenient excuse to push it then back to August, since he is such a perfectionist and wants to deliver a bug free experience since the Patreons voted for it, then August comes and something happened again....

Sorry been down that road with a few other Devs, the signs that this has spiraled out of control were there over a year ago, and nothing points into the direction that he is getting his release schedule back on track (can't say what is true from his sob stuff and also not going to speculate on it)

 

[juan palote]

He promised two updates on June, and we still have idiots saying its a 2 day delay....

He said on the 13th that he was very close...

 

[lemonfreak]

So his supporters (I stopped suporting him on Patreon last July) think that 4 days more will give him enough time to make a bigger update than what he said he would release today on the 29th.
Wow some people are reeeeeeealy stupid, but I guess he has now a convenient excuse to push it then back to August, since he is such a perfectionist and wants to deliver a bug free experience since the Patreons voted for it, then August comes and something happened again....

Sorry been down that road with a few other Devs, the signs that this has spiraled out of control were there over a year ago, and nothing points into the direction that he is getting his release schedule back on track (can't say what is true from his sob stuff and also not going to speculate on it)

Personally I knew he was in trouble the moment he put up the poll asking whether he should switch to putting out updates only when they were done or continue putting out whatever he'd done that week.

Perfectionism is the enemy of productivity, BD should learn from the Irish and adopt an "It'll be grand" philosophy (or, if you prefer, Australia's "She'll be right, mate"). Basically accept that nothing will ever be perfect and, to that end, just put out what he has, when he has it (a lesson I was taught is to deliberately write make one part of whatever it is you're creating bad so that, no matter how much time you spend elsewhere, you can never acchieve perfection)