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CHAQUINN0

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Your story is all over the place and isn't making any sense yet, nice looking models but some of the relationships are ridiculous and very hard to imagine.
please at least make all paths optional and not force anyone on anyone.
Things will start falling into place over time, but if you want realism in an adult visual novel, you're looking in the wrong place.

I don't mean to be rude but, the options are there, if you don't pay attention and say yes to everything, then it's not my fault...

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Dessolos

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Things will start falling into place over time, but if you want realism in an adult visual novel, you're looking in the wrong place.

I don't mean to be rude but, the options are there, if you don't pay attention and say yes to everything, then it's not my fault...

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speaking of choices , not 100 % sure but if I recall correctly I think I read or saw this next update some of our decisions could start impacting some relationships. Would you say next update would be a good time to make a manwhore / drama or chaos save if I want to see the outcomes. currently I only have solo paths haha
 
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CHAQUINN0

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speaking of choices , not 100 % sure but if I recall correctly I think I read or saw this next update some of our decisions could start impacting some relationships. Would you say next update would be a good time to make a manwhore / drama or chaos save if I want to see the outcomes.

Yep!
Chapter 4 is already stirring up some chaos. The set of choices I mentioned in the latest devlog, for example, impacts Julia's relationship while advancing Candace's. However, you can totally suggest Candace to spend time with her on another day and advance both their relationships at the same time.

In Chapter 2, you could have completely avoided Olivia finding out about Julia by skipping her art exposition. This allows you to start Olivia's route by asking her out at the end of Chapter 3, this way you can be with both at the same time.

Chapter 4 has two more situations like these, but I won’t spoil them. Suffice it to say, things are really heating up, and Chapter 4 will already start some of the imminent chaos. :HideThePain::HideThePain:
 

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Playing AVNs requires a bit of suspension of disbelief. After all, if the stories were entirely realistic, many relationships simply wouldn’t happen. This is especially true considering that most AVNs revolve around teenagers with "underdog" profiles.

Would you mind sharing which of these relationships bothered you the most and that you think are unrealistic?
Whats unrealistic is the whole situation with Zeke, and his ridiculous marriage and him playing around with anyone who is female, then the MC not only meeting all these perfect 10 girls and getting close to Julia but still asking all the others to go out with him. I just find it hard to believe that anyone would not want Julia or Olivia as exclusive and not have to deal with the future problems of them finding out he is going out with so many others
 

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Things will start falling into place over time, but if you want realism in an adult visual novel, you're looking in the wrong place.

I don't mean to be rude but, the options are there, if you don't pay attention and say yes to everything, then it's not my fault...

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what you say is true - but why then do you make it impossible to choose - they are all perfect 10's, most people never meet a perfect 10 in their entire lives - but in these AVN's everyone is one
 

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then the MC not only meeting all these perfect 10 girls and getting close to Julia but still asking all the others to go out with him
for fucks sake, you do actually realize that's all on you, as the player, right? No one is forcing your hand to ask out a girl on a date or have sex with them. You, as the player are given options to choose. If you decide to be a player, the consequences are on you. The dev made it all optional. Given it's a not a harem game, you'll run into problems sooner or later if you do that. The solution is quite easy... make multiple saves for the LIs you are interested in.
 

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Whats unrealistic is the whole situation with Zeke, and his ridiculous marriage, then the MC not only meeting all these perfect 10 girls and getting close to Julia but still asking all the others to go out with him. I just find it hard to believe that anyone would not want Julia or Olivia as exclusive and not have to deal with the future problems of them finding out he is going out with so many others
You can say that same thing about pretty much any game that you sleep around. Which is why in a game like this I tend to stick with solo paths and saves and make a manwhore one for consequences . I do disagree with you saying it's unrealistic about the girls not finding out. I mean it has only been 3 chapters what do you expect them to find out right away, I think that's more unrealistic. It makes more sense for them to be kept in the dark and only find out when you as the player make some poor decsions that causes them to find out. The dev has said they will have consequences and find out.


I don't know what else is going on.

I'm just here for Michelle. :BootyTime:
I can't ever decide between Michelle and Julia personally. even tho I do play every path lol
 

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You can say that same thing about pretty much any game that you sleep around. Which is why in a game like this I tend to stick with solo paths and saves and make a manwhore one for consequences . I do disagree with you saying it's unrealistic about the girls not finding out. I mean it has only been 3 chapters what do you expect them to find out right away, I think that's more unrealistic. It makes more sense for them to be kept in the dark and only find out when you as the player make some poor decsions that causes them to find out. The dev has said they will have consequences and find out.




I can't ever decide between Michelle and Julia personally. even tho I do play every path lol
actually most of the time so do I - I find the girl that reflects the type I like but in this AVN it is getting impossible to choose between Julia, Olivia and Michelle
 

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for fucks sake, you do actually realize that's all on you, as the player, right? No one is forcing your hand to ask out a girl on a date or have sex with them. You, as the player are given options to choose. If you decide to be a player, the consequences are on you. The dev made it all optional. Given it's a not a harem game, you'll run into problems sooner or later if you do that. The solution is quite easy... make multiple saves for the LIs you are interested in.
correct it is on the MC, but wjy does the Dev make it so impossible to choose - that is why many Dev's add the harem path, it's totally unrealistic but solves the issue in game stories
 

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correct it is on the MC, but wjy does the Dev make it so impossible to choose - that is why many Dev's add the harem path, it's totally unrealistic but solves the issue in game stories
okay dude you are not picking up what I'm putting down it looks like. What I said was, those choices are on you personally, not the MC. And you don't need to choose... again, multiple playthroughs exist, you just don't have to be lazy about it. But whatever, another harem complainer, who clearly can't appreciate a good story that is not a harem fuckfest. So I'll put you on the list so I don't have to see that garbage again.
 
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Dessolos

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actually most of the time so do I - I find the girl that reflects the type I like but in this AVN it is getting impossible to choose between Julia, Olivia and Michelle
haha those are the 3 I have hard time picking as well. Well I have an easier time not picking Olivia over Julia and Michelle. I will say Michelle's sister might come into that mix as well for me depending on her path proceeds in future updates. As I do like how she is an ex girlfriend but to early to say how much I like her yet but she is ahead of the rest I didn't mention at least , especially since she will be getting a solo path.
 

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okay dude you are not picking up what I'm putting down it looks like. What I said was, those choices are on you personally, not the MC. And you don't need to choose... again, multiple playthroughs exist, you just don't have to be lazy about it. But whatever, another harem complainer, who clearly can't appreciate a good story that is not a harem fuckfest. So I'll put you on the list so I don't have to see that garbage again.
Actually I was not complaining about it not being a harem game - I was just saying thats how some Devs get around making all the women perfect 10's and making it easier to choose between them
 

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okay dude you are not picking up what I'm putting down it looks like. What I said was, those choices are on you personally, not the MC. And you don't need to choose... again, multiple playthroughs exist, you just don't have to be lazy about it. But whatever, another harem complainer, who clearly can't appreciate a good story that is not a harem fuckfest. So I'll put you on the list so I don't have to see that garbage again.
Took ya long enough :ROFLMAO: :WeSmart:
 

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Yep!
Chapter 4 is already stirring up some chaos. The set of choices I mentioned in the latest devlog, for example, impacts Julia's relationship while advancing Candace's. However, you can totally suggest Candace to spend time with her on another day and advance both their relationships at the same time.

In Chapter 2, you could have completely avoided Olivia finding out about Julia by skipping her art exposition. This allows you to start Olivia's route by asking her out at the end of Chapter 3, this way you can be with both at the same time.

Chapter 4 has two more situations like these, but I won’t spoil them. Suffice it to say, things are really heating up, and Chapter 4 will already start some of the imminent chaos. :HideThePain::HideThePain:
Because there is so many outstanding girls, I started doing solo paths for the my favorites right from the beginning.

Maybe I might have to do a chaos path too, just to check out the drama.
 
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CHAQUINN0

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I understand the point of view, and I really appreciate the compliment on the girls as well as your feedback. The way I've approached this game is to focus on how choices and their consequences will unfold. This approach also provides replayability, which will allow you to go back and replay different outcomes based on various combinations of choices. But I also gave you the option to totally avoid everyone and pursue only one girl, or none of them, and the overall story will still unfold seamlessly.

Sure, there are things that might be considered unrealistic. But if I wrote everything with strict realism, it would be a snoozefest, and we probably wouldn’t even make it past the Prologue. So, some artistic liberties had to be taken along the way. :HideThePain:

I go through the same dilemma when playing AVNs myself. Take Being a DIK, for example—I find it very hard to reject Jill because I want Josy, but it has to be done. The solution is to make separate saves for dedicated playthroughs with each one of them solo.

One thing I prioritize in this game is telling the story through "unavoidable" content while giving you, as the player, the freedom to decide what actions to take based on what you know. These decisions not only shape your character's personality but also the characters around him.

I'm sure people are probably tired of me always mentioning these games, but Detroit Become Human and Until Dawn have been huge inspirations for me when it comes to narrative and choice-driven games. That’s the approach I intend to take with Yesterday’s Crossroads.

I know it can be frustrating at times, but believe me—it's well worth it in the long run.
 
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Dessolos

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I understand the point of view, and I really appreciate the compliment on the girls as well as your feedback. The way I've approached this game is to focus on how choices and their consequences will unfold. This approach also provides replayability, which will allow you to go back and replay different outcomes based on various combinations of choices. But I also gave you the option to totally avoid everyone and pursue only one girl or none of them and the overall story will still unfold seamlessly.

Sure, there are things that might be considered unrealistic. But if I wrote everything with strict realism, it would be a snoozefest, and we probably wouldn’t even make it past the Prologue. So, some artistic liberties had to be taken along the way. :HideThePain:

I go through the same dilemma when playing AVNs myself. Take BaDIK, for example—I find it very hard to reject Jill because I want Josy, but it has to be done. The solution is to make separate saves for dedicated playthroughs with each one of them solo.

One thing I prioritize in this game is telling the story through "unavoidable" content while giving you, as the player, the freedom to decide what actions to take based on what you know. These decisions not only shape your character's personality but also the characters around him.

I'm sure people are probably tired of me always mentioning these games, but Detroit Become Human and Until Dawn have been huge inspirations for me when it comes to narrative and choice-driven games. That’s the approach I intend to take with Yesterday’s Crossroads.

I know it can be frustrating at times, but believe me—it's well it in the long run.
haha I was thinking earlier today about Detroit Become Human and how I never got around to playing it yet but I want to cause I loved Until Dawn and AVN's. So gonna have to play it for sure now that that game was an inspiration for you.
 
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