VN Ren'Py Yesterday's Crossroads [Ch.3 v0.4.0a] [CHAQUINN0]

[Maviarab]

I believe this is a problem with most other single love interest titles (which I normally avoid...I am here for the harem path)

Yet yesterday you literally liked my post saying, explcitily,. there isn't a harem path (in the way people here think of a harem).

How many times does it need saying?

Also, sorry, but no one really cares about whether people get pissed about not finding a love interest, a path being closed off blah blah blah. One of the beauties of this story and VN, little more true to life..never know what reaction a choice may have. I love it like that personally...

Encourages multiple play throughs making different decisions. The dev has already backed down once and changed the script to pabder to people who whined...he better not do it again because then he may as well just scrap the damn story and make a fuck everyone VN instead to pander to the masses.

 

[Dessolos]

Hmm...I don't think this is the case. As I told Alessa...

Spoiler: the not yet choice.

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Then I get to the kiss her...

Spoiler: choice.

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And man...If I didn't use a walk through mod with this title, I wouldn't have known a little kiss would closes off a path with another love interest. Like WTF? It's only chapter 2 and a kiss to get know her better, is locking out another potential love interest.

Also, I'm not a fan of how it seems that MC can't play the field (date many others)…before he finally decides to take the plunge (deciding on who his girl friend will be).

I believe this is a problem with most other single love interest titles (which I normally avoid...I am here for the harem path), as most MC's never say...."I just was in a messy relationship that recently ended, and I don't want to jump right backing into another. I just want to explore and mend myself...while meeting new and interesting friends." This statement allows a guy the room to be on tour...a lot. It worked very well when I was on tour in my younger days.

Regards,

I usually play non harems games as I perfer solo paths myself but never expected a kiss right before things got serious would close a path off tho id have to play the game again to see the context behind that one. My memory is a bit foggy when it comes to this game. However from the screenshot I have no issue closing off Keyla's path cause she is worst than Kim but yeah that feels a bit strange without things getting serious , tho Im thinking this is from the date and IRRC things were starting to get serious at that point. So does make a bit of sense.

 

[Maviarab]

no issue closing off Keyla's path cause she is worst than Kim

Ohh you...so she as bad as...wait...the MC himself then? As she has only done...one thing wrong...the very same thing the MC did...

Spoiler: For Clarification on Keyla

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[Elduriel]

Ohh you...so she has bad as...wait...the MC himself then? As she has only doen..one thing wrong...the very same thing the MC did...

yeaah MC ain't a saint either in all that. But now he is a different man that I'm controlling him I'll cut out the toxic people

 

[Dessolos]

Ohh you...so she has bad as...wait...the MC himself then? As she has only doen..one thing wrong...the very same thing the MC did...

I mean that is fair the MC is no better in that regard since he knew what he was doing but no that's isn't the only reason I find her worst than Kim. Besides the cheating bit unless im mistaken she never told us the reason why Kim left even after she left, since I swore she knew the reason. That and well I kind of got the vibe she is thinking of cheating again at the end of the last episode. Also I admit I have a bit of a bias cause I dont like her looks all that much.

 

[Maviarab]

she is thinking of cheating again at the end of the last episode.

Read my post again...edited to include words from Chaq on Discord.

 

[Dessolos]

Read my post again...edited to include words from Chaq on Discord.

ah I see so it's confirmed my gut feeling is wrong glad about that then. thanks

 

[Maviarab]

ah I see so it's confirmed my gut feeling is wrong glad about that then. thanks

Aye.

She gets way too much hate (most of it here...she doesn't get anywhere near as much shade from patreons/discord). Ultimately, we are presented with a fairly thin 'friendship' with someone..someone we know is fucking around behind Keyla's back, someone who is 'also' our friend, probably more then Zeke in reality.

She made a mistake....with the MC...they made it together. Ok, so semantics, the MC never cheated nor had an affair....but really...heh, it's not much different is it. So the MC is just as bad. Now you know as well as anyone how much I dislike some LI's in some VN's (lol)...here...I fail to see how one can utterly hate Keyla, but be happy playing the MC. They were in it together and her arc going forward (as explained by Chaq himself) shows she is not the evil bitch many on F95 seem to think she is. It was also many years ago and both have moved on, progressed and grown up (somewhat).

Now, if don't like her character model etc, perfectly fine..all for that shiz, just another reason I dislike Kim (Daz content creators have made every few good looking Asian characters imo, can count them on one hand) but hating Keyla for what people hate her for? I think it's too much when in reality, all three (MC, Zeke and Keyla) all suck at times and are no better than each other. If anything, at least MC and Keyla came to their senses, guilt got the better of their love and they stopped...damn site more than can be said of Zeke...

Just my take however.

Down with Kim (and Kaija).

 

[motseer]

Read my post again...edited to include words from Chaq on Discord.

I have never been able to get this timeline 100% straight in my mind. I'm not even sure I have it completely straight after reading your post... Let me try it:

Keyla and MC are in college. This is before Keyla and Zeke are together. They (Keyla and MC) have history. They start hooking up but are keeping it secret. MC meets Kimberly and they start dating. Shortly after (a month or so), MC tells Keyla they need to stop hooking up. Kimberly and MC are together and exclusive for the next 2 years and there is no cheating.

If that is a correct timeline then nobody cheated on anybody...

 

[Dessolos]

Aye.

She gets way too much hate (most of it here...she doesn't get anywhere near as much shade from patreons/discord). Ultimately, we are presented with a fairly thin 'friendship' with someone..someone we know is fucking around behind Keyla's back, someone who is 'also' our friend, probably more then Zeke in reality.

She made a mistake....with the MC...they made it together. Ok, so semantics, the MC never cheated nor had an affair....but really...heh, it's not much different is it. So the MC is just as bad. Now you know as well as anyone how much I dislike some LI's in some VN's (lol)...here...I fail to see how one can utterly hate Keyla, but be happy playing the MC. They were in it together and her arc going forward (as explained by Chaq himself) shows she is not the evil bitch many on F95 seem to think she is. It was also many years ago and both have moved on, progressed and grown up (somewhat).

Now, if don't like her character model etc, perfectly fine..all for that shiz, just another reason I dislike Kim (Daz content creators have made every few good looking Asian characters imo, can count them on one hand) but hating Keyla for what people hate her for? I think it's too much when in reality, all three (MC, Zeke and Keyla) all suck at times and are no better than each other.

Just my take however.

Down with Kim (and Kaija).

yeah tbh other than the model not being my cup of tea . I never really held the cheating as a negative against her since the MC knew what he was doing. The only thing I disliked about her is something I need to replay the game to recall correctly. Cause now I think about my other reason for disliking her I feel like I might be wrong.

I recall she didn't tell the MC about Kim leaving, okay that's Kim's business I dont fault her for not saying she was leaving. What I dont recall if she knew the reason why she left. I feel like if she knew the reason why she should of told him eventually since it's clear that was one thing that was eating at the MC wasnt just the fact Kim left but not knowing the reason why.

 

[Maviarab]

Keyla and MC are in college

Correct...or maybe high school. Whatever...

This is before Keyla and Zeke are together

Correct.

They (Keyla and MC) have history

Correct, they are together in school.

They start hooking up but are keeping it secret.

Only AFTER Alessa (and by default Michelle) move away after their father died on the contruction site managed by MC's father.

MC meets Kimberly and they start dating

Kim..not Kimberly. Kimberly the tattood ffailed actress. Otherwise, correct.

Shortly after (a month or so), MC tells Keyla they need to stop hooking up. Kimberly and MC are together and exclusive for the next 2 years and there is no cheating.

Correct...but Kim not Kimberley.

Basically,...time wise....

MC/Keyla
MC/Alessa (this is after Keyla left)
MC/Keyla (Keyla cheating on Zeke)(This is after Alessa left)
MC Kim
Kim leaves...present day.

Spoiler: As an aside....

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[MrBenny]

I usually play non harems games as I perfer solo paths myself but never expected a kiss right before things got serious would close a path off tho id have to play the game again to see the context behind that one. My memory is a bit foggy when it comes to this game. However from the screenshot I have no issue closing off Keyla's path cause she is worst than Kim but yeah that feels a bit strange without things getting serious , tho Im thinking this is from the date and IRRC things were starting to get serious at that point. So does make a bit of sense.

Well I already live the single love interest relationship IRL...and it's not all that great. Hence why I prefer playing the man-whore path (harem), so I can sort of live in the past...when I had so many choices available, and I was in top shape with a full head of hair.

But with Kayla, knowing more details surrounding the relationship with Zeke, she isn't that bad of a girl (I believe Zeke knew how to control/play her for his own benifit). From my impressions, she only cheated with MC, who is her first and only true love. Though, I could be wrong...I guess we will find out more details at the end of chapter 3, like the dev mentioned on Discord I believe.

Regards.

 

[Maviarab]

But with Kayla, knowing more details surrounding the relationship with Zeke, she isn't that bad of a girl (I believe Zeke knew how to control/play her for his own benifit). From my impressions, she only cheated with MC, who is her first and only true love.

All correct.

 

[Elduriel]

MC/Keyla
MC/Alessa (this is after Keyla left)
MC/Keyla (Keyla cheating on Zeke)(This is after Alessa left)
MC Kim
Kim leaves...present day.

and somewhere inbetween Kimberly, though it wasn't a proper relationship. Couldn't pinpoint exactly where in the timeline tho, but it must be during college?

 

[motseer]

Correct...or maybe high school. Whatever...

Correct.

Correct, they are together in school.

Only AFTER Alessa (and by default Michelle) move away after their father died on the contruction site managed by MC's father.

Kim..not Kimberly. Kimberly the tattood ffailed actress. Otherwise, correct.

Correct...but Kim not Kimberley.

Basically,...time wise....

MC/Keyla
MC/Alessa (this is after Keyla left)
MC/Keyla (Keyla cheating on Zeke)(This is after Alessa left)
MC Kim
Kim leaves...present day.

Spoiler: As an aside....

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Yeah, Kim. Sorry, don't know where I got the Kimberly from. Yeah, I'm with you about the women abandoning him complex. I have always had that in mind when evaluating MC's behavior. It's mainly how I overlook his "needyness"... for now. But... "MC/Keyla (Keyla cheating on Zeke)(This is after Alessa left)"? This can't be right if, "Keyla and Zeke began dating a couple of months before returning to NYC.", from the Chaquinn post is true?

What am I missing here?

 

[Maviarab]

and somewhere inbetween Kimberly, though it wasn't a proper relationship. Couldn't pinpoint exactly where in the timeline tho, but it must be during college?

Yeah this is never actually explicitly stated I don't recall (could be mistaken)....has to have been in college and before he met Da-Som, think it was just a FWB situationship wasn't it with 2 peeps who just got on really well. Seem to recall a convo between them saying one or the other should have said something at the time instead of letting it be stay casual or something...may be misremembering that bit.

Yeah, Kim. Sorry, don't know where I got the Kimberly from. Yeah, I'm with you about the women abandoning him complex. I have always had that in mind when evaluating MC's behavior. It's mainly how I overlook his "needyness"... for now. But... "MC/Keyla (Keyla cheating on Zeke)(This is after Alessa left)"? This can't be right if, "Keyla and Zeke began dating a couple of months before returning to NYC.", from the Chaquinn post is true?

What am I missing here?

Keyla left (with parents) a long time before the cheating...talking years. remember, he had 'serious' relationship with Alessa after that. Kelya thought she'd never see the MC again etc etc...blah blah...both move on (this has to be high school...not college as the convo with Alessa, Alessa is already in college and the MC is not).

Yeah at first look it seems suss. They had their affair before Keyla married Zeke and just before MC met Da-Som. This was in college....they got married once they left college.

 

[motseer]

Keyla left (with parents) a long time before the cheating...talking years. remember, he had 'serious' relationship with Alessa after that. Kelya thought she'd never see the MC again etc etc...blah blah...both move on (this has to be high school...not college as the convo with Alessa, Alessa is already in college and the MC is not).

Yeah at first look it seems suss. They had their affair before Keyla married Zeke and just before MC met Da-Som. This was in college....they got married once they left college.

Nope. Not buying it yet and I'm not sure you are seeing my point. We have who and when but are lacking the where on putting it together. Kim and MC start dating at college. This we know. MC and Kim date for the last 2 years of college and then Kim leaves. MC and Keyla have their 2 months of hooking up just before MC and Kim get together. The fact that MC stopped hooking up with Keyla is because he was getting serious about Kim. Kim and Zeke don't start dating until "2 months before returning to NYC. I don't see an overlap there so there is no cheating by anyone...

 

[Dessolos]

Nope. Not buying it yet and I'm not sure you are seeing my point. We have who and when but are lacking the where on putting it together. Kim and MC start dating at college. This we know. MC and Kim date for the last 2 years of college and then Kim leaves. MC and Keyla have their 2 months of hooking up just before MC and Kim get together. The fact that MC stopped hooking up with Keyla is because he was getting serious about Kim. Kim and Zeke don't start dating until "2 months before returning to NYC. I don't see an overlap there so there is no cheating by anyone...

I mean doesn't Keyla literally say they need to stop doing this after the lewd scene which to me indicates she knows it's cheating. That and it seems like they were trying to be sneaky about it no?

 

[motseer]

I mean doesn't Keyla literally say they need to stop doing this after the lewd scene which to me indicates she knows it's cheating. That and it seems like they were trying to be sneaky about it no?

Heh... like I said at the start... I've never been able to decide 100% how all of it played out. Not sure it matters all that much but I kinda hate not knowing stuff I think I should know... yeah, a little OCD, maybe.

 

[Maviarab]

Nope. Not buying it yet and I'm not sure you are seeing my point. We have who and when but are lacking the where on putting it together. Kim and MC start dating at college. This we know. MC and Kim date for the last 2 years of college and then Kim leaves. MC and Keyla have their 2 months of hooking up just before MC and Kim get together. The fact that MC stopped hooking up with Keyla is because he was getting serious about Kim. Kim and Zeke don't start dating until "2 months before returning to NYC. I don't see an overlap there so there is no cheating by anyone...

MCxKim have been together longer than that. MC long past left college...has ha a career and everything. When Keyla and Zeke got together....Zeke was away himself from his/MC's hometown. So when they got together/started dating, MC knew nothing about it.

They eventually 'come back' to where the MC is in college (they are all in the same college now)...they Keyla cheats with MC...they stop...MC fools around with Kimberly, eventually starts dating Da-Som.

So Keyla cheated very early into her relationship with Zeke. At this point, we don't even know if they were 'exclusive' or not. If they weren't...then techincally no, they did nothing wrong (well, MC a bit of an ass but no, no one cheated if they were not exclusive).

Elduriel Yes...MC was 'with' Kimberly right after stopping things with Keyla MKII and before he started 'dating' Da-Som (who he already knew).

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At this point, I would not actually be surprised if Zeke knew about the 'affair' (let's call it that as said above, we don't know if Zeke/Keyla were exclusive or not) and I think Zeke always knew (as soon as they returned) that Keyla was in love with the MC and that Zeke would never truly 'have her' himself. I think this perhaps caused Zekes wanton behaviour all through their marriage (and that he proposed to not lose her to the MC..basically a pathetic simp). We know the ojnly reason Keyla said yes to marrying Zeke as she thought she had lost the MC for good and wanted him to be happy with Da-Som. She settled basically. Zeke's motivations/intentions are a little tricker to pin down.

To answer Dessolos from earlier, no, she never told the MC Da-som was leaving. This could be classed as a betrayal of trust perhaps...and 'something she did wrong'..however, you understand (I hope) why she kept quiet? She knew if she told the MC, he would try and move heaven and earth to stop Kim...something Keyla didn't actually want, she wanted Kim out of the way,...she is still deeply and hopelessly in love with the MC remember.

So Kim leaving is a convenient way of getting the MC back without competition. Really...can she really be blamed (forever) for that?