You've played tons of Harem games, you wish the MC's could be more or less .....

[hakarlman]

You love the Harem genre. Please vent your frustration or praise of how MC's generally conduct themselves in Harem games.

EDIT: It helps immensely if you describe the kind of MC you want in a Harem game.

Some helpers to get started, but you can ignore the following format completely:

You wish the Harem seeking MC was precisely the following , of which you're about to describe....

You wish the Harem seeking MC could be more.....

You wish the Harem seeking MC could be less....

You wish the Harem seeking MC had the following qualities....

You wish the Harem seeking MC had the following personality similar to characters from movies and shows such as.....

You wish the Harem seeking MC would be more or less in control.....

Is this MC a nice person, average joe, or insane, or a mix of all?

Is he liked by his fellow man or despised by other guys?

How many flaws does he have, or is he nearly perfect?

Maybe the MC is a blank slate completely, never developing any personality at all, just a vessel for the players decision making?

EDIT: This post is critical: https://f95zone.to/threads/youve-pl...-mcs-could-be-more-or-less.83922/post-5863443

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(I search f95zone.to for a while before I made this post, using the following query via google: site:f95zone.to harem mc .. Threads were mostly about finding Harem games, rather than discussing the MC of Harem games. This naturally makes me suspect guys who play Harem games may prefer an MC who is a blank slate, and perhaps his personality is defined through his choices? But, if he does make a choice, I believe it's important the MC speaks some dialogue to reflect that choice, thus developing a personality based upon the decision of the player. I'm hoping this thread can provide massive insight into what kind of MC Harem lovers want, to really get an MC that gets the player heavily invested into the game, to ensure an experience with lots of depth. Yes, I've been playing Harem games, but I'd still like feedback from others! I'm not going to respond to anything in this post, just read and get feedback. edit:I failed, lol one post was just too good , have to ask more questions.)

 

[Xyyy]

Not really talking about the MC of harem games but for me, the MC of Leap of Faith has been the best by far in terms of relationship with characters. Not the usual, I am horny, let's fuck relations. The emotions of the characters feel real, and the story is great. It's actually one of the fee non harem games that I loved a lot.

 

[Omae wa shinda]

I think harem seeking MC need to know what his end goal is
1.What kind of girls you seeing or know
2.What are you going to do with them (dating, or just friendzone ,etc)
3.Are you going to do choosing or take all

I going to take one example on common harem MC {Infinite Stratos} (the famous densest blackhole) Orimura Ichika, he is also extremely dense and clueless regarding when girls haurbor romantic feelings for him. Well he has reason to do so i guess?

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I think that if you see the anime you know the Ichika could be pretend to be dense to avoid any brutal "bad end"
You could say that why don't Ichika just man up and just confess to all of them or just choose one of them but he can't because he know them too well except some newer girls ( damn you got done goofed boi) of course . The girls are yandere,yangire potential and could one shot the MC regardless of his plot armor. Sure Ichika made some promises he couldn't possibly keep when he was young, he know they are beautiful but he just can't. That why he playing 5d chess to ensure his relationship with everyone maintains in vague as possible and his life until he can find his perfect girl that can beat the rest of the heroine. Or he just plain dense.
--End segment--


Beside, you could wish harem seeking MC all day long to do that or this but in the end it is in the hand of author or creator

So if you want to start a proper and strong bond with harem , i guess be like Zeus?(Not a good example but what he is)
He is a god , he strong and has highly reputation as well as respect amongst pantheon
But he just can't keep it in his pant and just start baby popping with immortal and mortal alike, causing trouble
I think that he need to be more mindful of girl he about to start "relationship" so that no backstabbing or obvious trouble occur.( I'm looking at you, Hera.)

Having chasity mindset could potentially uproot the thought of having harem but it minimize the problem of harem's side effect since less girls equal less problems. Keep it small.

Although unimportant, having personality change toward girl on one on one session is great for the said girl's mood or favour but downside is this can led to misunderstanding unless you let them know this is only for you alone and nothing else .This is not favoritism, it is more of a you and that girl only personal thing .Of course, you must have your main personality you meet with them as a group.

You need in control with harem relationship so that your opinion could be reasoned or be in first so that you can avoid favoritism opinion by the girls. You must reach the conclusion that everyone can accept.

If the girl asks for a unreasonable favor or a act that could upsetting another girl ,then you must reject it so you don't undermining the relationship you trying to build. For a harem to work , the girls must understand each other so they can bond with each other .(that why locking two girls alone in a room is a good choice )(joke)

If you have a harem, you are bound to be target of jealousy by other guys because you alone has many beautiful girls by your side. It's like you living a dream and they don't. Now the best situation you could be is to become incredibly famous or strong so that you could protect you and your harem either by reputation or power. Only then , the mindset would be, "he strong that why he has many girls , i will set him as idol or motive." Which is why king or emperor have concubines.
But you trying to to build a proper strong healthy harem , so i guess you don't need that much, kings needed them for strongest heirs or forced the girls to be in relationship with them or fame or money.

Having flaw or not is not quite a reason (except impotent, why you want to troubles yourself?). If you are flawless then good for you, if you have flaw then protect each other. You scratch mine back, i scratch your mindset can led to stronger bond be built amongst you and your harem. You just forming a community of your own with your harem.

From game perspective, everything i wrote just now might be seem useless because no one want to see such a slightly perfect polyamory or polygamy relationship. The creator or author can do whatever to their character because it is their story , it is their creation. They can do full yandere, they can do blank MC , they do horror porn, they do whatever fuck they want.

 

[hakarlman]

I going to take one example on common harem MC {Infinite Stratos} (the famous densest blackhole) Orimura Ichika, he is also extremely dense and clueless regarding when girls haurbor romantic feelings for him. Well he has reason to do so i guess?

--This whole segment is made based on assumption by reality relationship and writer's view--
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I think that if you see the anime you know the Ichika could be pretend to be dense to avoid any brutal "bad end"
You could say that why don't Ichika just man up and just confess to all of them or just choose one of them but he can't because he know them too well except some newer girls ( damn you got done goofed boi) of course . The girls are yandere,yangire potential and could one shot the MC regardless of his plot armor. Sure Ichika made some promises he couldn't possibly keep when he was young, he know they are beautiful but he just can't. That why he playing 5d chess to ensure his relationship with everyone maintains in vague as possible and his life until he can find his perfect girl that can beat the rest of the heroine. Or he just plain dense.
--End segment--

From your experience, how often does it occur in Harem anime or adult games, in which a Harem seeking MC is outwardly dense; yet possibly, secretly tactical; 5d chess as you call it.

Let's say the MC is actually dense. How would he overcome this? Would he eventually become self aware of it? Does he learn that he has this problem from an older woman perhaps? How does he identify this flaw?

Is a character like Orimura Ichika the default standard for a good hearted Harem seeking MC?

If you have a harem, you are bound to be target of jealousy by other guys because you alone has many beautiful girls by your side. It's like you living a dream and they don't. Now the best situation you could be is to become incredibly famous or strong so that you could protect you and your harem either by reputation or power. Only then , the mindset would be, "he strong that why he has many girls , i will set him as idol or motive." Which is why king or emperor have concubines.
But you trying to to build a proper strong healthy harem , so i guess you don't need that much, kings needed them for strongest heirs or forced the girls to be in relationship with them or fame or money.

Having flaw or not is not quite a reason (except impotent, why you want to troubles yourself?). If you are flawless then good for you, if you have flaw then protect each other. You scratch mine back, i scratch your mindset can led to stronger bond be built amongst you and your harem. You just forming a community of your own with your harem.

From game perspective, everything i wrote just now might be seem useless because no one want to see such a slightly perfect polyamory or polygamy relationship. The creator or author can do whatever to their character because it is their story , it is their creation. They can do full yandere, they can do blank MC , they do horror porn, they do whatever fuck they want.

What you wrote is far from useless and quite valuable.

- If MC has a flaw, Harem comes together to help with flaw, MC does this in return. This sounds like a lot of fun.
- MC will encounter jealously from competing males, naturally leading to conflict. IMO, overcoming such challenges makes the Harem more meaningful, because MC fought for it in some way, either diplomatically, physically (combat), etc. It also shows the MC rising above other men, which immediately gets the attention of women.
- I suspected that a potential key to Harem is having social power of some kind, like you said, from reputation or some other kind of advantage.
- I've always felt the same, that to get that Harem, you're also going to naturally become a role model to other men, the alpha so to speak, they aspire to be like the MC.
- I like how you mentioned the position of a King or God as the end goal, perfect. Zues is a great example. I wonder if it's appealing to play as an MC who starts out like Orimura Ichika , but eventually ends up like Zues? Is that the right way of thinking?
- Having the option to lock the girls in a room if they experience problematic jealously, ahha nice.

Although unimportant, having personality change toward girl on one on one session is great for the said girl's mood or favour but downside is this can led to misunderstanding unless you let them know this is only for you alone and nothing else.This is not favoritism, it more of a you and that girl only personal thing .Of course, you must have your main personality you meet with them as a group.

Maintain initial composure whether alone or with the group.
Whatever attitude change MC has when alone with the girl, stays within that private moment, never straying outside in front of other girls. However.... What if he does this on purpose?

....[sadistic corruption stuff]

You wouldn't happen to know any good Harem anime MC who are sadistic and treat their women like complete and total garbage, yet the women yearn and crave the mental abuse. If that's not your forte, np!

Imagine the Harem MC who does show favoritism to purposely hurt the other girls, but one day shows favoritism to one, then the next day to another, constantly hurting the girls, destroying them mentally. Ultimately using superior sexual technique (with the help of good size dick) to own their bodies, so the girls know you're abusive asshole, but secretly crave and need it both your dicking and verbal abuse.

Then player chooses the MC to become either:
(GOOD) Orimura Ichika --> ZUES
(EVIL) Bad Guy ---> HADES

 

[God3333]

Would actually be interesting to see harem games actually acknowledge the harem and people actually respond to it.

 

[rk-47]

We need MCs to be less creepy and/or pervy and just say they flat-out are seeking open/harem relationships

 

[Loganfin]

Number one, I want the MC to be a young to middle age adult, and fully grown. Its so frustrating and weird to see so many games where he's short and skinny and looks funny. Average to above average height and fit. Its honestly a turn off. He doesn't need to look like a superhero., he just needs needs to be tall enough and healthy.

After that, he needs to be a good blend of horny and polite. Its important to me that the MC not be a dick who wants to abuse women - either physically or emotionally, and that he earns sex and/or the relationship via being cool to everyone. However, its also frustrating on the other end when the MC is too timid or even resists the advances of the women in the game. Ideally, he needs to stumble into a situation, or have one thrust upon him, where he realizes that there are a number of women who want to have sex with him, and he is all for making that happen. Gotta fuck em all.


Games on here where the MC and the women generally act the way that I would want them to are Max's Life, Mythic Manor, Dark Magic, and Summertime Saga.

 

[Xyyy]

Games on here where the MC and the women generally act the way that I would want them to are Max's Life, Mythic Manor, Dark Magic, and Summertime Saga.

I think Virtues would also fit into this. Great game.

 

[DaScoot]

I get some people want the MCs to be an 'approachable everyman' or whatnot, but some really overshoot to the point where their characters are so pathetic even I want to shove them into some lockers. "I'm a 26 year old who's never had a job and failed out of college and have no hobbies except playing video games 16 hours a day, but now <X> happened and I'm going to seduce every woman I see!" Nah, man. You want to give me an everyman, give me an overworked everyman who works two jobs or is working on a postgrad degree or something. You're not gonna convince me that a dude who didn't have the talent or willpower to make fries at McD's is suddenly gonna manage to juggle a dozen women.

 

[Xyyy]

I get some people want the MCs to be an 'approachable everyman' or whatnot, but some really overshoot to the point where their characters are so pathetic even I want to shove them into some lockers. "I'm a 26 year old who's never had a job and failed out of college and have no hobbies except playing video games 16 hours a day, but now <X> happened and I'm going to seduce every woman I see!" Nah, man. You want to give me an everyman, give me an overworked everyman who works two jobs or is working on a postgrad degree or something. You're not gonna convince me that a dude who didn't have the talent or willpower to make fries at McD's is suddenly gonna manage to juggle a dozen women.

You forgot about those just turned 18 year old guy whose father died god knows when and he lusts over his supermodel mother and 2 sisters. Like this is the basic starter pack for every game.

 

[Asia Argento]

We need MCs to be less creepy and/or pervy and just say they flat-out are seeking open/harem relationships

Thats why I am a Harem Hotel simp. Ashley fights with Maria over you, MC asks them to stop and says he loves both of them. BOTH are his girlfriend. HH main is a chad amongst chads.

 

[CocoVC]

Number one, I want the MC to be a young to middle age adult, and fully grown. Its so frustrating and weird to see so many games where he's short and skinny and looks funny. Average to above average height and fit. Its honestly a turn off. He doesn't need to look like a superhero., he just needs needs to be tall enough and healthy.

After that, he needs to be a good blend of horny and polite. Its important to me that the MC not be a dick who wants to abuse women - either physically or emotionally, and that he earns sex and/or the relationship via being cool to everyone. However, its also frustrating on the other end when the MC is too timid or even resists the advances of the women in the game. Ideally, he needs to stumble into a situation, or have one thrust upon him, where he realizes that there are a number of women who want to have sex with him, and he is all for making that happen. Gotta fuck em all.


Games on here where the MC and the women generally act the way that I would want them to are Max's Life, Mythic Manor, Dark Magic, and Summertime Saga.

I would add funny and charming as well.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets creeped out by the underage-looking protagonists in the incest-harem games.

 

[Loganfin]

I would add funny and charming as well.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets creeped out by the underage-looking protagonists in the incest-harem games.

Funny and charming are great, and an absolute plus. If the dev/writer can check that box, then terrific. But the other things I mentioned were basically my ground floor desires.

-Adult Male
-Not an asshole
-No desire to mistreat or hurt people
-A guy that most people would like hanging around
-Horny, and smart enough to see a good opprotunity when its presented to him
-The women absolutely WANT to be a part of the harem, and have sex with the MC

and then, ideally

-Good humor and some heart/personality
-The women have at least a little personality that differentiates them beyond their looks
-Most of or all of the women are cool with the MC having sex with multiple women. at least as an end goal
-And then one of my biggest kinks/turn ons would be eventually adding in casual nudity and the characters having sex right in front of one another. That's always a great sort of top level achievement for the characters.

 

[Loganfin]

I think Virtues would also fit into this. Great game.

There are a lot of things about virtues that I like. Most of the women are really hot, but most of them are also too timid and pliable to me. They're more like dolls that the MC is manipulating.

But the one younger sister character with white hair (I forget her name) just looks and acts too young for me. I love having sassy college age girls in the game, but she makes me uncomfortable and I'm not interested.

 

[Xyyy]

Funny and charming are great, and an absolute plus. If the dev/writer can check that box, then terrific. But the other things I mentioned were basically my ground floor desires.

-Adult Male
-Not an asshole
-No desire to mistreat or hurt people
-A guy that most people would like hanging around
-Horny, and smart enough to see a good opprotunity when its presented to him
-The women absolutely WANT to be a part of the harem, and have sex with the MC

and then, ideally

-Good humor and some heart/personality
-The women have at least a little personality that differentiates them beyond their looks
-Most of or all of the women are cool with the MC having sex with multiple women. at least as an end goal
-And then one of my biggest kinks/turn ons would be eventually adding in casual nudity and the characters having sex right in front of one another. That's always a great sort of top level achievement for the characters.

You can try My New Family and A New Home. I am not sure if they even fit in what you said(it has been a while since I played those) but they are great. Especially MNF, it has a lot of content and the writing is amazing.

 

[Xyyy]

But the one younger sister character with white hair (I forget her name) just looks and acts too young for me. I love having sassy college age girls in the game, but she makes me uncomfortable and I'm not interested.

You are talking about Irene. Yeah, she acts like way too clingy, ig most probably because of jealousy of her aunt. But overall, the game is good.

 

[Diconica]

I would like to see a harem game where the MC is more customizable in a number of ways.
Most MC's in the games aren't that smart and tend to be outwardly scumbags.
That said often they are fairly protective of the females.

I'd like to see it where you can customize the MC's personality and it the game reflect it.
That way I can play the MC I want to play and others can play the MC they want to play.

 

[Catapo]

Funny and charming are great, and an absolute plus. If the dev/writer can check that box, then terrific. But the other things I mentioned were basically my ground floor desires.

-Adult Male
-Not an asshole
-No desire to mistreat or hurt people
-A guy that most people would like hanging around
-Horny, and smart enough to see a good opprotunity when its presented to him
-The women absolutely WANT to be a part of the harem, and have sex with the MC

and then, ideally

-Good humor and some heart/personality
-The women have at least a little personality that differentiates them beyond their looks
-Most of or all of the women are cool with the MC having sex with multiple women. at least as an end goal
-And then one of my biggest kinks/turn ons would be eventually adding in casual nudity and the characters having sex right in front of one another. That's always a great sort of top level achievement for the characters.

I think more people should really play The Last Sovereign. IMO Simon is the best harem game protagonist.

 

[hakarlman]

Most MC's in the games aren't that smart and tend to be outwardly scumbags.

So you want to play an MC who is a gentleman and an aspiring scholar who values wisdom?

That said often they are fairly protective of the females.

Is this a good or bad thing? Are you saying you want to sit back and order your women to fight, while you just watch? Or do you want to be the only one fighting, or do you want your women to back you up in a fight? Or avoid a fight through diplomacy? While impressing potential women to seduce who are observing how you conduct yourself during a confrontation.

I'd like to see it where you can customize the MC's personality and it the game reflect it.

Which personality do you really really want? Can you describe it?

That way I can play the MC I want to play and others can play the MC they want to play.

Feel free to describe exactly what you want to play, if you have time.

 

[hakarlman]

I think more people should really play The Last Sovereign. IMO Simon is the best harem game protagonist.

You wouldn't have time to explain Simon in a few sentences? Like, is he good or evil? A gentleman or asshole? Is he sadistic; does he like mentally or verbally abusing women in a consensual manner? Or does he treat them like princesses, spoiling them, but still in a stoic way where he commands respect?