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Oh really? the summary saying they don't want to break their relationship so no one confesses just tells me his your typical i waited to long and they were taken kinda Mc don't like wasting my time on Mc's who are pretty much irrelevent lol
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Welp, got around to playing this one, partly because I heard good things about it, partly because I just felt in the mood for huge tiddies, so here we are.
So far, I did one full playthrough of the game and got the "Happy Together" endings, aka Ending 1, aka the supposed good ending, but I also loaded a save and saw the other path for this ending, aka Ending 2, aka "Stolen by Thugs".... Which comes with some implications about the 1st ending... but more on that latter when I get into the story.
First of all, I'll say that I can see why this game is so highly rated. Compared to... a LOT of slop out there, it's a really amazing game and you can tell that the dev put in quite a bit of effort into making it stand out. The art is a tad janky, but it's good enough to be hot and usable, if you're into huge tiddies at least, so can't complain there. Some basic short frame animations are also present, and while they're not amazing, I imagine they're better than nothing for the people fixated on that sort of thing, and hey, huge tiddy bounces, that's gotta count for something, right?
That said, I do have mixed feelings about it in a number of ways. While mechanically, the game is set-up to be a lot more than just "do you want X girl(s) to be cucked" that you see in a lot of games, the story does have some... poor choices, in my opinion at least, in terms of how things get there. I'm not talking about the typical NTR cliches of big-dick==drug-like-sex and the like, but rather...
The whole idea behind this game is that you have this really powerful party of adventurers who are not just "A Rank", but considered "Monsters" because of how many A Rank quests they did and are on the verge of "Becoming Legendary" by hitting S-Rank, as long as they complete an S-Rank quest. Whaddya-know? There's such a quest available, except they need to bring in this mostly useless asshole because he has priest/cleric powers. Let's ignore the fact that all three of them aren't at all suspicious of the extremely obvious set-up, or that they're willing to bring an under-leveled, literally useless weakling guy that they know wants to fuck both of the girls in the party with them... It's pretty typical NTR lazy writing, we'll forgive it for now.
Instead, we'll move on to how this goes, where we get to see the party in action, and how they really do deserve the whole "about to be S-Rank" vibe. Unlike plenty of other RPGM games out there, you don't start with weaklings even though they're supposed to be bad-asses. No. All of the original trio are bad-asses. Claire is a super strong swordswoman that hits like a truck. Yuri is an amazing mage with all but literally infinite mana, the ability to obliterate large swathes of enemies and even has a convenient analyze spell that you can use to figure out enemy stats. Rick, the MC, is basically an invincible tank who also has the ability to buff swords, giving them elemental attacks, and he can use that on Claire too, without using a turn. Their combo is so strong that the few fights you see with them at full strength end on the 1st or 2nd turn, MAYBE the 3rd. The party just plain walks through normal monsters and insta-kills them for XP (and in some cases money), and all in all they're really damn strong.
It's cool, and it looks like it'll be a set-up where the skilled, powerful MC who's bad at sex (and has a dick the size of the average thumb or smaller, literally) will have to compete with the useless playboy who look hot and has a dick as thick as any of the girl's fists. You don't see that kind of thing often, right? Or... really... at all... usually... NTR MCs are generally just plain useless on every level aside from being generic nice guys.
Weeeeell... unfortunately... that's NOT what happens.
While obviously, our would-be chad, stealer of girls needs some convoluted circumstances to be able to, y'know, try to steal the girls that don't care for him, the story does more than that. Due to the party acting like total N00Bs, rather than, y'know, expert and seasoned adventurers, Yuri ends up cursed by a succubus. What does the curse do? It makes her need horny. (obviously) It makes it so she needs to fuck once every 2 days or else she dies. (Fair enough, right? Gotta give the chad chances and whatnot.) It also makes it so she drains the levels of whoever fucks her and feeds them to the succubus.
Now, you'd think that this is where a bit of a dilemma would start, right? If MC fucks Yuri, he loses levels, and they need those levels to progress through the dungeon to beat the succubus and stop the curse. Of course, the other option is the already useless chad, or perhaps random people around the camp/village they're in, given that there's more than a few horny bastards around. You'd think that there'd be some kind of mechanic around this where you manage how much Yuri gets fucked and by whom so you can keep progressing in the dungeon, and maybe even the option to grind or something to maintain the MC's levels, maybe? You'd THINK that there'd be options.
Well... if you thought that, you thought wrong.
Yuri of course wants to fuck with the MC, the MC wants to fuck Yuri, and there's no option for anything else at all whatsoever. On top of that, for whatever reason, MC doesn't just lose levels, he also loses the ability to level-up after the 1st time he fucks Yuri because the story demands it to be so. On top of THAT, you don't even have the option to rush the dungeon in any way. In spite of the fact that Yuri's life is in danger and the longer they take the harder it becomes because the MC is becoming weaker each time he fucks Yuri. You have zero options around this, which is honestly very disappointing, because it ends with MC becoming your typical weakling NTR MC who's main quality is that he's a generic nice guy. Being willingly oblivious to his girls getting fucked under his nose might also be a super-power he later develops. He's definitely oblivious to how cock hungry they become by the end or the fact that he sucks at making them feel good. Of course, the chad becomes the only "lvl 99 human in the world, the strongest human ever", because we gotta hit the full cliche quota here...
I dunno about other people, but for me, that development was utterly disappointing, because to a big degree, it turns the game into pretty much the usual NTR silliness with the added "bonus" that by the end the girls would actually be trading up with the chad. He's not a great example of humanity, but aside from being a total pervert, he doesn't treat them particularly badly and he does keep going adventuring with them and stuff. Really, the girls don't really lose much of anything by going with Leor over Rick in the one full NTR ending, and they can continue doing high-rank quests. In fact, it's a whole noticeable point that the ending with Rick has them talking about C-Ranks like they're a big deal, while the ending with Leor has them talking about A-Ranks like they're no problem. That says a lot all on its own.
The other disappointing thing is that it's too fast tbh. Even at the slowest, I don't think the whole thing could last longer than ~30 in-game days, which is way too fast for the corruption we see. Getting the good ending happened on the 18th in-game day for me, and even then... the girls were highly cock-addicted by that point and were regularly only holding on from cheating through sheer stubbornness. Ending 2 makes it pretty clear that Yuri and Claire were basically looking for the slightest excuse to get properly big dicks in them so they could be fucked like animals. You can believe that given enough time, they might recover or find some other solution to their problem, or you can believe that it's only a matter of time until they snap... It really could go either way given some circumstances...
The last disappointing thing is that once a certain incident happens, the game basically becomes a VN in RPGM for a while where you can't do much of anything except walk to specific events. There's some small extras in that section near the end, but overall, it's honestly not great aside from all the smut that you get to see. The dev could have worked that bit out better tbh. Might have worked better if there were NPCs with CGs that you could see get fucked and stuff to really drive the hypnotized town thing home... but oh well...
Still, those are really the only major flaws that this game has. Let's talk about the other stuff.
The game has an affection mechanic. The girls have affection for the MC, affection for the chad and a Lust stat. The lust stat is primarily related to what events can occur and it honestly seems mostly relevant for Claire, at least for a while. It doesn't directly affect any of the endings, so how high it gets doesn't seem to matter. What DOES matter is the affection of the girls and certain events that can be triggered. In essence, if the girls have higher affection for MC, he wins in the ending, if the girls have higher affection for Leor, he wins, though this also requires a couple of other conditions to be met.
MC can gain affection with the girls under several circumstances, though there's not as much variety as you'd expect. There's some events in the dungeon that lead to affection raises. Yuri in particular can gain quite a bit of affection for every battle won with the MC in the party after he starts losing levels. Claire gets a lot less. Conversely, if the MC is NOT in battle for those fights because he has to retreat, Leor gets affection instead, though less than MC would have. He also gets affection with Claire on a number of occasions.
There's also a dating thing that happens at night. Because of the situation with Yuri, MC ends up dating both girls, and he can choose to spend time with one of them in the night slot. This provides some opportunity to get some more affection raises by eating with them at the Inn and ending the night fucking one of them. However, this only nets you ~6-7 affection. No, to really pile up the affection, you need gifts. The item shop owner sells some consumable items at night that you can use on the girls, and using all 3 nets you 7 affection for Claire and 8 Affection for Yuri.
If you want the good ending where both girls stay with MC in spite of their cock-addiction, you pretty much NEED to alternately date both of them and always hit them with the full range of gifts... which costs 5000 Gold per turn.
This is where the game hits you with more choices, so to speak. You start with only 10k gold. The only big way to earn gold is to sell "magic tools" that you find in the dungeon... but you ALSO need those magic tools to beat the dungeon with Rick. Or at least... it'd be that way, but, a number of regular mobs also drop gold and in typical RPGM fashion, they respawn infinitely. Even better, the mobs that drop the most gold are the orc/goblin/whatever things at the start of the dungeon that MC can farm without taking damage. Even once he's reduced to lvl 1. These things drop between 150 and 250 gold per pop, and you literally just have to walk into them... and there's even a convenient room to the right where there's two of them right off the entrance to the dungeon, so you can go in and out over and over and have as much gold as you want. It's so easy that you can even just cheat the gold in if you want too.
Still, while the system is flawed and getting the "good ending" is pretty easy if you follow the game's hints, it's still a lot more than most NTR games do, and if you don't pay attention to what's happening and don't push the dungeon as hard as possible, it's really easy to get locked out of this ending without even realizing it. There's quite a few ways to fail at getting it. Not least of which is not having enough magic tools to beat the final duel, which leads to Ending 2. Even with the money and affection levels, you need to seriously explore the dungeon and collect all the available magic tools, or else Leor might make a comeback anyway after the succubus is defeated.
It's not hard, imho, but it's a LOT more than the average NTR game. I wouldn't rate it as highly as a certain other game I favor, but it's still way better than a lot of slop.
The succubus curse on Yuri and the hypnosis stuff with Claire give some measure of justification to how quickly the girls end up cock-addicted, though personally, I still feel that it's too fast for the level of impact we see on the both of them by the end. Aside from that though, it's really good set-up as the reason for the corruption and NTR, so I can't complain about that. I just wish the level drain stuff wasn't a thing, because imho, I feel like it weakens the premise by giving the girls even more reasons to stop loving the MC, especially given the reasons why they started loving him in the first place, due to all three of them being adventurers and the girls loving how reliable he is in battle as "the Invincible Shield".
Moving on. H-events are, for the most part, pretty typical NTR silliness. Though there's surprisingly few tit-fucks for a game with massive tiddies... and I think there's only 1 double tit-fuck in the whole game? Or was it a double blowjob? Still, there's plenty of stuff that emphasizes the breasts, or has them bounce, so huge tit lovers can't complain. Surprisingly for a NTR game, MC gets both girls' virginities, not that it matters much given his tiny pencil dick... but hey, it's a win for him, I guess.
The only problem with the H-stuff is that the gallery is actually a tad incomplete. What I mean by that is that some events have two versions. The version where MC sees stuff and you have his thoughts on the matter, then the version from the girl's perspective, with her thoughts on the matter and sometimes with longer fucking and whatnot, or a better angle or whatever. Well, the latter is in the gallery, but the former isn't, which means that anyone getting full gallery saves isn't getting everything. Also, there's a couple of mini-events in town that don't seem to be in the gallery at all. Additionally, I don't think a certain event between Yuri and Leor that happens right before fighting the succubus is in the gallery either.
So really, if you actually want to properly experience the game? Play it. Seriously. The full gallery save misses out on a LOT of context... and you don't need one anyway because the game comes with a lever to unlock everything ANYway...
All in all? I definitely think that this is a pretty good H-game and a pretty good NTR game in particular. It actually mixes the NTR with the gameplay to an extent, and doesn't just offer static choices of "Cuck MC or don't Cuck MC", and it actually tries to be an actual game, and not just a VN in RPGM. It could have used some more polish in my opinion to make it really great or downright amazing, but some of that is, tbh, subjective nitpicking on my part when it comes to the story. If you like huge tits and NTR, I definitely recommend playing this one, and if you can spare the cash, throw the dev some money too. At least when the game is at high discount on dlsite or something.
So far, I did one full playthrough of the game and got the "Happy Together" endings, aka Ending 1, aka the supposed good ending, but I also loaded a save and saw the other path for this ending, aka Ending 2, aka "Stolen by Thugs".... Which comes with some implications about the 1st ending... but more on that latter when I get into the story.
First of all, I'll say that I can see why this game is so highly rated. Compared to... a LOT of slop out there, it's a really amazing game and you can tell that the dev put in quite a bit of effort into making it stand out. The art is a tad janky, but it's good enough to be hot and usable, if you're into huge tiddies at least, so can't complain there. Some basic short frame animations are also present, and while they're not amazing, I imagine they're better than nothing for the people fixated on that sort of thing, and hey, huge tiddy bounces, that's gotta count for something, right?
That said, I do have mixed feelings about it in a number of ways. While mechanically, the game is set-up to be a lot more than just "do you want X girl(s) to be cucked" that you see in a lot of games, the story does have some... poor choices, in my opinion at least, in terms of how things get there. I'm not talking about the typical NTR cliches of big-dick==drug-like-sex and the like, but rather...
The whole idea behind this game is that you have this really powerful party of adventurers who are not just "A Rank", but considered "Monsters" because of how many A Rank quests they did and are on the verge of "Becoming Legendary" by hitting S-Rank, as long as they complete an S-Rank quest. Whaddya-know? There's such a quest available, except they need to bring in this mostly useless asshole because he has priest/cleric powers. Let's ignore the fact that all three of them aren't at all suspicious of the extremely obvious set-up, or that they're willing to bring an under-leveled, literally useless weakling guy that they know wants to fuck both of the girls in the party with them... It's pretty typical NTR lazy writing, we'll forgive it for now.
Instead, we'll move on to how this goes, where we get to see the party in action, and how they really do deserve the whole "about to be S-Rank" vibe. Unlike plenty of other RPGM games out there, you don't start with weaklings even though they're supposed to be bad-asses. No. All of the original trio are bad-asses. Claire is a super strong swordswoman that hits like a truck. Yuri is an amazing mage with all but literally infinite mana, the ability to obliterate large swathes of enemies and even has a convenient analyze spell that you can use to figure out enemy stats. Rick, the MC, is basically an invincible tank who also has the ability to buff swords, giving them elemental attacks, and he can use that on Claire too, without using a turn. Their combo is so strong that the few fights you see with them at full strength end on the 1st or 2nd turn, MAYBE the 3rd. The party just plain walks through normal monsters and insta-kills them for XP (and in some cases money), and all in all they're really damn strong.
It's cool, and it looks like it'll be a set-up where the skilled, powerful MC who's bad at sex (and has a dick the size of the average thumb or smaller, literally) will have to compete with the useless playboy who look hot and has a dick as thick as any of the girl's fists. You don't see that kind of thing often, right? Or... really... at all... usually... NTR MCs are generally just plain useless on every level aside from being generic nice guys.
Weeeeell... unfortunately... that's NOT what happens.
While obviously, our would-be chad, stealer of girls needs some convoluted circumstances to be able to, y'know, try to steal the girls that don't care for him, the story does more than that. Due to the party acting like total N00Bs, rather than, y'know, expert and seasoned adventurers, Yuri ends up cursed by a succubus. What does the curse do? It makes her need horny. (obviously) It makes it so she needs to fuck once every 2 days or else she dies. (Fair enough, right? Gotta give the chad chances and whatnot.) It also makes it so she drains the levels of whoever fucks her and feeds them to the succubus.
Now, you'd think that this is where a bit of a dilemma would start, right? If MC fucks Yuri, he loses levels, and they need those levels to progress through the dungeon to beat the succubus and stop the curse. Of course, the other option is the already useless chad, or perhaps random people around the camp/village they're in, given that there's more than a few horny bastards around. You'd think that there'd be some kind of mechanic around this where you manage how much Yuri gets fucked and by whom so you can keep progressing in the dungeon, and maybe even the option to grind or something to maintain the MC's levels, maybe? You'd THINK that there'd be options.
Well... if you thought that, you thought wrong.
Yuri of course wants to fuck with the MC, the MC wants to fuck Yuri, and there's no option for anything else at all whatsoever. On top of that, for whatever reason, MC doesn't just lose levels, he also loses the ability to level-up after the 1st time he fucks Yuri because the story demands it to be so. On top of THAT, you don't even have the option to rush the dungeon in any way. In spite of the fact that Yuri's life is in danger and the longer they take the harder it becomes because the MC is becoming weaker each time he fucks Yuri. You have zero options around this, which is honestly very disappointing, because it ends with MC becoming your typical weakling NTR MC who's main quality is that he's a generic nice guy. Being willingly oblivious to his girls getting fucked under his nose might also be a super-power he later develops. He's definitely oblivious to how cock hungry they become by the end or the fact that he sucks at making them feel good. Of course, the chad becomes the only "lvl 99 human in the world, the strongest human ever", because we gotta hit the full cliche quota here...
I dunno about other people, but for me, that development was utterly disappointing, because to a big degree, it turns the game into pretty much the usual NTR silliness with the added "bonus" that by the end the girls would actually be trading up with the chad. He's not a great example of humanity, but aside from being a total pervert, he doesn't treat them particularly badly and he does keep going adventuring with them and stuff. Really, the girls don't really lose much of anything by going with Leor over Rick in the one full NTR ending, and they can continue doing high-rank quests. In fact, it's a whole noticeable point that the ending with Rick has them talking about C-Ranks like they're a big deal, while the ending with Leor has them talking about A-Ranks like they're no problem. That says a lot all on its own.
The other disappointing thing is that it's too fast tbh. Even at the slowest, I don't think the whole thing could last longer than ~30 in-game days, which is way too fast for the corruption we see. Getting the good ending happened on the 18th in-game day for me, and even then... the girls were highly cock-addicted by that point and were regularly only holding on from cheating through sheer stubbornness. Ending 2 makes it pretty clear that Yuri and Claire were basically looking for the slightest excuse to get properly big dicks in them so they could be fucked like animals. You can believe that given enough time, they might recover or find some other solution to their problem, or you can believe that it's only a matter of time until they snap... It really could go either way given some circumstances...
The last disappointing thing is that once a certain incident happens, the game basically becomes a VN in RPGM for a while where you can't do much of anything except walk to specific events. There's some small extras in that section near the end, but overall, it's honestly not great aside from all the smut that you get to see. The dev could have worked that bit out better tbh. Might have worked better if there were NPCs with CGs that you could see get fucked and stuff to really drive the hypnotized town thing home... but oh well...
Still, those are really the only major flaws that this game has. Let's talk about the other stuff.
The game has an affection mechanic. The girls have affection for the MC, affection for the chad and a Lust stat. The lust stat is primarily related to what events can occur and it honestly seems mostly relevant for Claire, at least for a while. It doesn't directly affect any of the endings, so how high it gets doesn't seem to matter. What DOES matter is the affection of the girls and certain events that can be triggered. In essence, if the girls have higher affection for MC, he wins in the ending, if the girls have higher affection for Leor, he wins, though this also requires a couple of other conditions to be met.
MC can gain affection with the girls under several circumstances, though there's not as much variety as you'd expect. There's some events in the dungeon that lead to affection raises. Yuri in particular can gain quite a bit of affection for every battle won with the MC in the party after he starts losing levels. Claire gets a lot less. Conversely, if the MC is NOT in battle for those fights because he has to retreat, Leor gets affection instead, though less than MC would have. He also gets affection with Claire on a number of occasions.
There's also a dating thing that happens at night. Because of the situation with Yuri, MC ends up dating both girls, and he can choose to spend time with one of them in the night slot. This provides some opportunity to get some more affection raises by eating with them at the Inn and ending the night fucking one of them. However, this only nets you ~6-7 affection. No, to really pile up the affection, you need gifts. The item shop owner sells some consumable items at night that you can use on the girls, and using all 3 nets you 7 affection for Claire and 8 Affection for Yuri.
If you want the good ending where both girls stay with MC in spite of their cock-addiction, you pretty much NEED to alternately date both of them and always hit them with the full range of gifts... which costs 5000 Gold per turn.
This is where the game hits you with more choices, so to speak. You start with only 10k gold. The only big way to earn gold is to sell "magic tools" that you find in the dungeon... but you ALSO need those magic tools to beat the dungeon with Rick. Or at least... it'd be that way, but, a number of regular mobs also drop gold and in typical RPGM fashion, they respawn infinitely. Even better, the mobs that drop the most gold are the orc/goblin/whatever things at the start of the dungeon that MC can farm without taking damage. Even once he's reduced to lvl 1. These things drop between 150 and 250 gold per pop, and you literally just have to walk into them... and there's even a convenient room to the right where there's two of them right off the entrance to the dungeon, so you can go in and out over and over and have as much gold as you want. It's so easy that you can even just cheat the gold in if you want too.
Still, while the system is flawed and getting the "good ending" is pretty easy if you follow the game's hints, it's still a lot more than most NTR games do, and if you don't pay attention to what's happening and don't push the dungeon as hard as possible, it's really easy to get locked out of this ending without even realizing it. There's quite a few ways to fail at getting it. Not least of which is not having enough magic tools to beat the final duel, which leads to Ending 2. Even with the money and affection levels, you need to seriously explore the dungeon and collect all the available magic tools, or else Leor might make a comeback anyway after the succubus is defeated.
It's not hard, imho, but it's a LOT more than the average NTR game. I wouldn't rate it as highly as a certain other game I favor, but it's still way better than a lot of slop.
The succubus curse on Yuri and the hypnosis stuff with Claire give some measure of justification to how quickly the girls end up cock-addicted, though personally, I still feel that it's too fast for the level of impact we see on the both of them by the end. Aside from that though, it's really good set-up as the reason for the corruption and NTR, so I can't complain about that. I just wish the level drain stuff wasn't a thing, because imho, I feel like it weakens the premise by giving the girls even more reasons to stop loving the MC, especially given the reasons why they started loving him in the first place, due to all three of them being adventurers and the girls loving how reliable he is in battle as "the Invincible Shield".
Moving on. H-events are, for the most part, pretty typical NTR silliness. Though there's surprisingly few tit-fucks for a game with massive tiddies... and I think there's only 1 double tit-fuck in the whole game? Or was it a double blowjob? Still, there's plenty of stuff that emphasizes the breasts, or has them bounce, so huge tit lovers can't complain. Surprisingly for a NTR game, MC gets both girls' virginities, not that it matters much given his tiny pencil dick... but hey, it's a win for him, I guess.
The only problem with the H-stuff is that the gallery is actually a tad incomplete. What I mean by that is that some events have two versions. The version where MC sees stuff and you have his thoughts on the matter, then the version from the girl's perspective, with her thoughts on the matter and sometimes with longer fucking and whatnot, or a better angle or whatever. Well, the latter is in the gallery, but the former isn't, which means that anyone getting full gallery saves isn't getting everything. Also, there's a couple of mini-events in town that don't seem to be in the gallery at all. Additionally, I don't think a certain event between Yuri and Leor that happens right before fighting the succubus is in the gallery either.
So really, if you actually want to properly experience the game? Play it. Seriously. The full gallery save misses out on a LOT of context... and you don't need one anyway because the game comes with a lever to unlock everything ANYway...
All in all? I definitely think that this is a pretty good H-game and a pretty good NTR game in particular. It actually mixes the NTR with the gameplay to an extent, and doesn't just offer static choices of "Cuck MC or don't Cuck MC", and it actually tries to be an actual game, and not just a VN in RPGM. It could have used some more polish in my opinion to make it really great or downright amazing, but some of that is, tbh, subjective nitpicking on my part when it comes to the story. If you like huge tits and NTR, I definitely recommend playing this one, and if you can spare the cash, throw the dev some money too. At least when the game is at high discount on dlsite or something.
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Alrighty! So! Because I was curious about some things, and because I had a bunch more of events to see, I decided to do a second playthrough for this game where I focused on collecting most of the events. All except the 4 Leor events in the dungeon during Phase 1 of the game, so to speak, mainly because they're a pain to get. I just unlocked those 4 with the switch. Plus, they're not that special anyway, just some hugging, kissing and groping. Nothing particularly interesting.
To make things smoother, and because this game doesn't have a NG+ feature, I cheated a save by giving MC a bunch of items, lvl 99 and of course stat boosters. Mainly so I could leisurely obliterate bosses even with the level drain thing getting in the way.
Before I get into the details of this run, I want to talk about something that I forgot to mention last time... and that's the translation. The translation is... tolerable, I suppose. If this was a paid product, I'd have wanted my money back, because it's not good enough, but for a freely offered translation, it's passable. It could have used more editing though. It's pretty clear that the game was NOT played properly to catch things that are only obvious in context while playing. Like Yuri saying that she's getting weaker because of the curse, when she was actually referring to the MC, and some other things where you/I/he/she got confused. There's nothing as bad as "his pussy" or "her cock" or the like, like I've seen on other MTLs, but it's still distracting and potentially annoying at times. The translation not preserving the Yuri-nee naming also creates nonsensical dialogue at times, and it's only my experience as a weeb that allowed me to understand what was being said in certain places. Sorry translator, there is no sister of Yuri. Would be hot if there was.
Oh well. Maybe we'll get something better eventually, I think this game would definitely deserve it, and I'd love to give it another playthrough with a better translation.
Moving on. Messing with the game and whatnot showed one thing that's clear... and that's the fact that in truth, the numbers seem to be meaningless. By the numbers I mean the Affection and Lust values. At least for the most part. There's a specific trigger involving Claire having 50 lust, but that's pretty much it. All of the endings are determined by more specific triggers that don't care about the numbers at all.
Basically, what you do in the 1st half of the game doesn't matter much. All that really matters is what you do after defeating Lumeria. I'll elaborate below on what I mean by that with a list of the endings and their conditions.
Moving on a bit from the ending, I've attached my save folder here, and I have a list of what each saves do (mostly), for people that are lazy and don't want to play the game themselves but still want to see scenes in context. Order is a bit wacky since I did this after my 1st legit run, of which only Save 7 remains, right before the Ending. (Though you can recall from there and still use that save to trigger pretty much any of the other endings if you try hard enough)
So yeah, that's about everything. Fun game. Hot scenes. Can't complain too much. Could've been better, but that's always the case, even for my fave NTR game.
To make things smoother, and because this game doesn't have a NG+ feature, I cheated a save by giving MC a bunch of items, lvl 99 and of course stat boosters. Mainly so I could leisurely obliterate bosses even with the level drain thing getting in the way.
Before I get into the details of this run, I want to talk about something that I forgot to mention last time... and that's the translation. The translation is... tolerable, I suppose. If this was a paid product, I'd have wanted my money back, because it's not good enough, but for a freely offered translation, it's passable. It could have used more editing though. It's pretty clear that the game was NOT played properly to catch things that are only obvious in context while playing. Like Yuri saying that she's getting weaker because of the curse, when she was actually referring to the MC, and some other things where you/I/he/she got confused. There's nothing as bad as "his pussy" or "her cock" or the like, like I've seen on other MTLs, but it's still distracting and potentially annoying at times. The translation not preserving the Yuri-nee naming also creates nonsensical dialogue at times, and it's only my experience as a weeb that allowed me to understand what was being said in certain places. Sorry translator, there is no sister of Yuri. Would be hot if there was.
Oh well. Maybe we'll get something better eventually, I think this game would definitely deserve it, and I'd love to give it another playthrough with a better translation.
Moving on. Messing with the game and whatnot showed one thing that's clear... and that's the fact that in truth, the numbers seem to be meaningless. By the numbers I mean the Affection and Lust values. At least for the most part. There's a specific trigger involving Claire having 50 lust, but that's pretty much it. All of the endings are determined by more specific triggers that don't care about the numbers at all.
Basically, what you do in the 1st half of the game doesn't matter much. All that really matters is what you do after defeating Lumeria. I'll elaborate below on what I mean by that with a list of the endings and their conditions.
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Moving on a bit from the ending, I've attached my save folder here, and I have a list of what each saves do (mostly), for people that are lazy and don't want to play the game themselves but still want to see scenes in context. Order is a bit wacky since I did this after my 1st legit run, of which only Save 7 remains, right before the Ending. (Though you can recall from there and still use that save to trigger pretty much any of the other endings if you try hard enough)
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So yeah, that's about everything. Fun game. Hot scenes. Can't complain too much. Could've been better, but that's always the case, even for my fave NTR game.
Nebel. Nebel is my fave NTR game. To date, I have yet to find another NTR game (and not just a game that has NTR in it), that properly melds the gameplay with the NTR stuff as well as Nebel does. It has its issues too, but far less than many other games I could name. At least in my opinion.
Scorian
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Thanks for taking the time to compile all this information.
Also, I'll be checking out Nebel!
DreamingOfPinkLips
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It's been a long while since I last played, so my memory is a bit hazy, but I will try:
There's a situation where Yuri gets checked by the knights and led into the town's bar/pub. I don't remember how exactly that event went, but she loses some MP during it. The event can be repeated until she runs out of MP, and repeating it at a very low MP value will trigger the ending.
I believe this takes place at the beginning of the town hypnosis event.
I can vouch for the ending's existence, though only by my word. Back when I played the game, I used Mtool to dig into the game files and I believe that's how I found out about the ending. The dev definitely did run out of time or steam at the end of development, as there are a couple of cut endings (and that could explain why some endings happen regardless of affection/lust values).
Iexist
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Ah, I know what event you're talking about. I don't think you can normally re-trigger the event though... or at least... you shouldn't be able too... Unless, replays from the S menu count? Would be weird if it did... but it wouldn't surprise me either. I'll have to experiment with that if I have time.
As for the intent for the game to be bigger. Yeah. I agree, there's a lot of signs for that even if you just edit the save file and check things like possible items. There's TONS of items that never show up in actual gameplay. Also, just looking at the game in general makes it clear that the dev intended for there to be more. Possibly more dating spots and so on.
I have no idea if the dev ran out of steam, or if the scope of the project became too much for them and they figured that they didn't have knowhow to pull off all that they wanted. Guess we'll never know. They haven't been active in ages, so it's unknown if they're even still doing games or not.
This perfectly sums up everything about the game extremely fairly and I feel the same way as well. I had assumed it might been different with the title or maybe there would be swing involved but yeah kind devolved after the succubus but it at least gives Rick a better outcome than most NTR game.
So... what was the Leor's original plan, by the way? Trust me bro? To be the luckiest bastard in the universe and have divine intervention do all the work for you? If it weren't for the magical artifacts that could change the course of history, by the end of the quest he would be sitting in his dumpy guild corner and drinking donkey-piss-beer, bought with the last of his savings.
Iexist
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That was pretty much what he was relying on yeah. He didn't think that the girls actually disliked him as much as they did and thought he could charm them as easily as any other girls he did in the past as long as he actually had the time to do so. He also didn't know that the three of them were actually as strong as the rumors made them out to be.
In truth, even with the ring, if Yuri wasn't a total moron at the start of the game, his odds of achieving anything would have been effectively zero.
Seeing such an in depth analysis of the game, I can't help but be curious and ask for recommendations. I am gonna try Nebel now that you have said it but I would love to know other games you found to be good.
Iexist
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I can't say that I've been asked much for recommendations, nor do I spend that much time thinking on the subject.
That said, this thread isn't the place for that sort of talk. Strictly speaking, going off-topic and into recommendation talks is against the forum rules and I'm not one to flaunt said rules. Knowingly at least. Might do so by mistake from time to time. No one's perfect and all that.
Really like this game, wish more games had this common sense alteration NTR porn. Sadly the author didn't show any signals since he released this game in 2023, So I guess we won't be seeing him again
They liked a comment september 2024 on cien, so I wouldn't lose hope yet.
Craztic
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