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I'm stuck there as well. I just see the stars on the wall and clicking them does nothing.
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I was just furously clicking while screaming obscenities at my monitor. Kind of a bummer my technique didn't work.
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I think having it to change different dialogues and choices among the story is gonna be a hell of a workload. Keep it as it is would be fine. I have only know a few situation where the patron choice matter, aphrodite for first scene, Thoth school the teacher on first class, lunar will stop dean from attacking Caleb, Thoth will free Samael. Can't be sure that's all but that much impact on some story part is enough to cause some workload imo.
I understand the hate with minigame, puzzle, sandboxes and etc whenever it comes to AVN. I myself hated a few games for its sandbox element and minigames too.
But this though.... yes I hate the murder investigation puzzle too but that didn't take me more than 5 minutes to finish the segment with the power of google. The infiltration wise I do not hate it because every hint you get along the way is contributing to the story and let you understands more about to cult. Kinda lengthy compared to the puzzle indeed. Gonna take a while especially for those who can get lost easily
For those who were still stuck at puzzle: The star lights up if it's the correct sequence, otherwise whatever you light up will go dim. Just brute force it trial and error with different sequence to light up all. The star was already placed in the pattern of " > ", just click it accordingly then. 4 words cipher is SONG and lastly type in Carcosa
I supposed the infiltration had more than enough hints to fill it to 100% because I ended the segment with 120% progress? Just check out every rooms. Most rooms have 1 interact objects, some give hints. The interactable objects aren't hidden shit. It's always book, or bookshelves, books on tabletop. They aren't hidden and highlighted when mouse over. If dev would like to make it easy mode maybe consider highlighting them at all time so they don't miss it. Can't really tell where to go when I read players stuck at 90% because there's more than 1 place to go though. Try the attic maybe (solve the riddle and climb ladder), or the magic circle in the library, there were more interaction the last room before reaching the curtain to end the segment.
But this though.... yes I hate the murder investigation puzzle too but that didn't take me more than 5 minutes to finish the segment with the power of google. The infiltration wise I do not hate it because every hint you get along the way is contributing to the story and let you understands more about to cult. Kinda lengthy compared to the puzzle indeed. Gonna take a while especially for those who can get lost easily
For those who were still stuck at puzzle: The star lights up if it's the correct sequence, otherwise whatever you light up will go dim. Just brute force it trial and error with different sequence to light up all. The star was already placed in the pattern of " > ", just click it accordingly then. 4 words cipher is SONG and lastly type in Carcosa
I supposed the infiltration had more than enough hints to fill it to 100% because I ended the segment with 120% progress? Just check out every rooms. Most rooms have 1 interact objects, some give hints. The interactable objects aren't hidden shit. It's always book, or bookshelves, books on tabletop. They aren't hidden and highlighted when mouse over. If dev would like to make it easy mode maybe consider highlighting them at all time so they don't miss it. Can't really tell where to go when I read players stuck at 90% because there's more than 1 place to go though. Try the attic maybe (solve the riddle and climb ladder), or the magic circle in the library, there were more interaction the last room before reaching the curtain to end the segment.
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I don't know how to review this yet, but it's an intriguing start. As soon as I saw this thread, I downloaded it immediately, and I'm not entirely sure why, as I'm normally super slow to make up my mind. Synchronicity about synchronicity?
I don't like that the character has to be named "Caleb," and I don't like that he smokes. I like the mystery and stuff, and the whole thing seems generally original. The girls are decent, but could definitely be hotter. The story is good, if (intentionally) hard to follow at times.
I want to give this 5 stars, but there are a few problems:
Ultimately, while it seems too soon to give it a star rating, I'm looking forward to future updates. If things continue the way they've started, I'll probably end up giving this 5 stars within a couple updates.
I don't like that the character has to be named "Caleb," and I don't like that he smokes. I like the mystery and stuff, and the whole thing seems generally original. The girls are decent, but could definitely be hotter. The story is good, if (intentionally) hard to follow at times.
I want to give this 5 stars, but there are a few problems:
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The only problem i found with the puzzles is that there's no "ingame" hint to them if you have never heard about the cassilda's song or the pigpen puzzles, you'll have to google the stuff out of the game.
for the pigpen puzzle, i think the pigpen cipher could just be included as a picture for reference, maybe in a book somewhere in one of the screens background when you explore around by example ?
for the pigpen puzzle, i think the pigpen cipher could just be included as a picture for reference, maybe in a book somewhere in one of the screens background when you explore around by example ?
I understand the hate with minigame, puzzle, sandboxes and etc whenever it comes to AVN. I myself hated a few games for its sandbox element and minigames too.
But this though.... yes I hate the murder investigation puzzle too but that didn't take me more than 5 minutes to finish the segment with the power of google. The infiltration wise I do not hate it because every hint you get along the way is contributing to the story and let you understands more about to cult. Kinda lengthy compared to the puzzle indeed. Gonna take a while especially for those who can get lost easily
For those who were still stuck at puzzle: The star lights up if it's the correct sequence, otherwise whatever you light up will go dim. Just brute force it trial and error with different sequence to light up all. The star was already placed in the pattern of " > ", just click it accordingly then. 4 words cipher is SONG and lastly type in Carcosa
I supposed the infiltration had more than enough hints to fill it to 100% because I ended the segment with 120% progress? Just check out every rooms. Most rooms have 1 interact objects, some give hints. The interactable objects aren't hidden shit. It's always book, or bookshelves, books on tabletop. They aren't hidden and highlighted when mouse over. If dev would like to make it easy mode maybe consider highlighting them at all time so they don't miss it. Can't really tell where to go when I read players stuck at 90% because there's more than 1 place to go though. Try the attic maybe (solve the riddle and climb ladder), or the magic circle in the library, there were more interaction the last room before reaching the curtain to end the segment.
a supposed constellation that has to be worked out when there is NO mention of prior knoweledge of the stars given, or that this even is a constellation of some sort. The character explains AFTERwards that he memorized constellations and thats how he knew...but there is ZERO indication for the PLAYER to have that knowledge. Then too, according to Google, no such constellation actually exists. A star CLUSTER by that name exists, as pasrt of the Taurus constellation. So it is an entirely fictional puzzle solution, devoid of clues to its solution. (I just clicked and clicked and clicked and somehow got past it, but I could not BEGIN to tell you how)
only for that to be followed by a cryptogram...again, no clues, no hints. 4 characters to be decrypted. Well, with 26 letters in the English alphabet, that leaves 26x26x26x26 possibilities.Without considering that 1 or more of the characters in question could be a numeric, in which case there 36x36x36x36 possible solutions.
It was at that point, I QUIT the game, and deleted the folder. Too bad too, because the story was interesting. Just nowhere near being worth that kind of mind fuck.
and to a pilot, flying a plane isnt that hard either. DId you have a point you wanted to make?
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I wouldn't say people suck at solving puzzles. It's more so the fact that the game assumes we would know about pigpen cipher and how to solve it prior to playing the game. The other two puzzles before it wasn't hard at all. That said, they're not teaching how to solve ciphers in school and even if your school did, specifically, that doesn't mean every school around the world did too. It's a rather niche thing. It's like putting morse code in the game and expecting players to be able to tell what's going on to solve the problem.
Sure, you and the others who are fond of that kind of stuff could think it's simple and straightforward. That doesn't mean everyone else has any interest in it or even learned it. Should I say you guys suck at morse code if you couldn't solve it like you did with a pigpen cipher then? What about putting a random korean poem, all in korean, for you to solve? Is it reasonable to expect you to not only have learned korean but to also know what the poem is a reference too?
It's honestly a valid critique about the game. While I didn't mind learning and solving the pigpen stuff. I can completely see how others would struggle with it. I'm not saying the dev should remove it from the game but it's understandable that others would find it a bit difficult. Pretending like it's easy to understand and it's the players fault for not learning something like that is a horrible take.
Sure, you and the others who are fond of that kind of stuff could think it's simple and straightforward. That doesn't mean everyone else has any interest in it or even learned it. Should I say you guys suck at morse code if you couldn't solve it like you did with a pigpen cipher then? What about putting a random korean poem, all in korean, for you to solve? Is it reasonable to expect you to not only have learned korean but to also know what the poem is a reference too?
It's honestly a valid critique about the game. While I didn't mind learning and solving the pigpen stuff. I can completely see how others would struggle with it. I'm not saying the dev should remove it from the game but it's understandable that others would find it a bit difficult. Pretending like it's easy to understand and it's the players fault for not learning something like that is a horrible take.
Sad to see people discontinued the game because of the only puzzle existing in game though. But from my perspective whenever a puzzle had only a few button activation that lights up or dim down, it doesn't need knowledge anymore. Pretty sure it's just a simple trial and error game with sequence.
As for the pigpen cipher, I don't think anyone with a sane mind would remember that shit in their head these days.
And I would like to suggest dev making the choice to skip puzzle available even for first play through. Yes, in case anyone wondering, the puzzles can be skipped with choice after clearing it once.
It's almost like half the players that stuck at the puzzle and the other half don't even bother mentioning it. One thing I'm certain of those who solved it on play doesn't remember shit about pigpen cipher nor the song lyrics. It was simply because an opened browser behind the running game
.It literally took like 5 seconds to look through the table that pop up when you google pigpen cipher, and another second to see the word Carcosa when google 1 phrase from the song.
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Yes, that's why I'm not saying the dev should remove them. It didn't take much time on my part to solve that one cipher by searching it. My comment was only towards the other player that assumed everyone must suck at puzzles for not knowing how to solve a cipher like that one. As if your average person is just supposed to randomly know this stuff with no problem.Sad to see people discontinued the game because of the only puzzle existing in game though. But from my perspective whenever a puzzle had only a few button activation that lights up or dim down, it doesn't need knowledge anymore. Pretty sure it's just a simple trial and error game with sequence.
As for the pigpen cipher, I don't think anyone with a sane mind would remember that shit in their head these days.
And I would like to suggest dev making the choice to skip puzzle available even for first play through. Yes, in case anyone wondering, the puzzles can be skipped with choice after clearing it once.
It's almost like half the players that stuck at the puzzle and the other half don't even bother mentioning it. One thing I'm certain of those who solved it on play doesn't remember shit about pigpen cipher nor the song lyrics. It was simply because an opened browser behind the running game
It literally took like 5 seconds to look through the table that pop up when you google pigpen cipher, and another second to see the word Carcosa when google 1 phrase from the song.
I'm personally fine with the dev keeping it all in the game and I actually didn't mind it much. It's just that I can understand other's frustration with it and can see how they wouldn't be a fan of it.
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I didn't know the answers to any of the puzzles before they came up, I clicked the stars in a connected line from top left to mid right to bottom left. I googled pigpen cypher and the words to get the solution to the other puzzles.
Personally, I thought it was an interesting bit of character development for the MC. We learnt what he was into in the past, and saw a bit of fencing between him and Marie. Obviously it didn't work that way for a large minority in the comments, but I think what the dev tried worked for those of us it didn't piss off.
The dude says it's a pigpen cipher. Google that and it's not hard to figure out.
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right after the dude says its a constellation, that doesnt really exist. So no reason to believe, there is any such thing as a pigoen cipher either, if you've never heard of it before.
So one totally fictional reference, followed by another cryptic, unheard of reference. No reason to think it is anything other than a literary tool.
Mini-games and puzzles belong in a Lara Croft adventure, not a porn game.
So one totally fictional reference, followed by another cryptic, unheard of reference. No reason to think it is anything other than a literary tool.
Mini-games and puzzles belong in a Lara Croft adventure, not a porn game.
Wikipedia (amongst thousands of other sources) would like to disagree with you about whether the Hyades "really exist"s.
You need to learn to read. I didnt say it doesnt exist. I said it isnt a constellation. It is a star cluster withint the Taurus constellation. But it is NOT a constellation in and of itself