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So, random, but what do you all think was happening in the trials for the girls back during 'Untitled'?

Long Maya mentioned that presumably the likes of Maya, Ayane, Yumi, and Tsuneyo were facing their own stuff while Sensei was answering questions:
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Maybe they were being questioned with trivia involving Sensei? I can see Maya and Ayane passing that rather easily.

I'm also thinking Yumi didn't pass hers, hence the apparent reset and possible murder. Also maybe Tsuneyo as well, but I'm still waiting for confirmation from her that she actually doesn't remember the reset stuff. Maya claims she doesn't, but Maya isn't the most reliable person:
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Tsuneyo also seemed somewhat unaffected by the reset compared to the other 3:
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and she apparently remembers at least the third reset (or at least did):
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Which was supposedly rewritten back then (The time Ayane didn't survive the roof):
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So, her apparently surviving resets, and just not mentioning it for over a year isn't strange for her.
Hmm didn’t put much thoughts into how or what exactly others are doing during resets, I always assume they are having their customized nightmares, something similar to what Maya had during 4th reset (forgot if Ayane ever described how it felt before waking up). The “inflict extreme harm” part is something I simply perceive as the hard reset if he keeps fucking up the trivia, as Sensei is the anchor to everyone; but what you suggested is possible.

As for Tsuneyo, since Sana also remembered having a Ayane-less sleepover in Sweet Vermouth, I assume the whole thing worked as that sleepover still existed but false memory has been inserted into Ayane (and perhaps only her since she was the only girl at the time that was somehow "involved enough" to deserve a memory alteration).

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Same logic applies to Maki being the only person remembering Makoto's first breakdown after Bluejay; the world mechanism rewrites only the key person's memory, but seemingly cannot undo everything and/or is not flawless enough to also do something to others' memories to make everything seamless (i.e., Tsuneyo or Sana or Maki aren't being special or immune during moments like these; they were just in a way close enough to a key event, but not involved enough to get mingled by the mechanism)

With all that being said though, I still have my doubts if that sleepover still existed or not, considering Sana was also in her dorm room and not at Sensei's house when Sensei went and looked for Ayane in Before the Sun Comes Up.

Granted, judging from the conversation the event is between Sunday night to Monday early morning, while the sleepover is on Saturday night, so it might just because it's basically a different day now after a reset, but the idea of time passing during a reset isn't all that certified (while Maya did mention how long sometimes she had to wait on the roof but I am not too certain if those passed time carried over when the reset is done).
 

DeSkel15

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Hmm didn’t put much thoughts into how or what exactly others are doing during resets, I always assume they are having their customized nightmares, something similar to what Maya had during 4th reset (forgot if Ayane ever described how it felt before waking up). The “inflict extreme harm” part is something I simply perceive as the hard reset if he keeps fucking up the trivia, as Sensei is the anchor to everyone; but what you suggested is possible.
Yeah, I could see them having their own customized nightmares. Maya seemed stuck in her nightmare without Sensei's help though, so I'm thinking she went through something different this time. More of a "personal trial" like Long Maya said instead of an old memory. Otherwise I don't see how they'd get to the roof days before him. It is possible no one can remember the trials though, so it's unlikely we'll get much confirmation about it.

As for Tsuneyo, since Sana also remembered having a Ayane-less sleepover in Sweet Vermouth, I assume the whole thing worked as that sleepover still existed but false memory has been inserted into Ayane (and perhaps only her since she was the only girl at the time that was somehow "involved enough" to deserve a memory alteration).

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Same logic applies to Maki being the only person remembering Makoto's first breakdown after Bluejay; the world mechanism rewrites only the key person's memory, but seemingly cannot undo everything and/or is not flawless enough to also do something to others' memories to make everything seamless (i.e., Tsuneyo or Sana or Maki aren't being special or immune during moments like these; they were just in a way close enough to a key event, but not involved enough to get mingled by the mechanism)

With all that being said though, I still have my doubts if that sleepover still existed or not, considering Sana was also in her dorm room and not at Sensei's house when Sensei went and looked for Ayane in Before the Sun Comes Up.

Granted, judging from the conversation the event is between Sunday night to Monday early morning, while the sleepover is on Saturday night, so it might just because it's basically a different day now after a reset, but the idea of time passing during a reset isn't all that certified (while Maya did mention how long sometimes she had to wait on the roof but I am not too certain if those passed time carried over when the reset is done).
I actually think it might be the other way around. Sana remembering the slumber party is the false memory, just like how Makoto remembers killing herself but it's treated as hallucinations in her mind. Although I suppose it's more like retconned memories than false ones. Time gets rewritten, but memories aren't rewritten competently, leaving behind memories of things that couldn't have happened. Similar to how people tend to overlook how long it's been, even when noting it's been years or more than one of the same Holiday within one year.

However, notice that Tsuneyo says things "ended rather strangely":
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Meanwhile Sana mentions nothing weird about the slumber party itself, but she seems unsure of when it actually happened:
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Her being in the dorms, and Sensei coming back to a house with none of the girls (besides Ami) there, kind of implies it didn't happen in this timeline. Much like how Makoto jumped off the roof, but then "wakes up" back on it like nothing happened, albeit obviously aware something did.

Tsuneyo on the other hand mentions it ended strangely, implying it's not a false memory, but an actual one. She didn't seem to have trouble placing the memory or what happened back then. Albeit, Tsuneyo can apparently remember things she's not even around for:
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So, who knows what's going on with her memory.

I think Maki's situation is more of an exception here, as I don't think time was actually rewritten there. Makoto's memories were presumably the only thing actually affected, and just no one besides Maki really cared to talk about it. I think Makoto herself just didn't remember it. Unless someone like Ayane seemed to forget it, which I may have missed.

Btw, from what I understand, the Slumber party was on Saturday night, but by the time Sensei got done talking to Ayane and made it back home, when the reset starts, it was Sunday (after midnight). By the time the reset was over, and Sensei checked up on Ayane it was around 3 am:
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Sunday:
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In other words, Sana, Ami, Molly, and Tsuneyo should have been at his house while he was talking with Ayane here, but Sana's definitely not. Monday wasn't really involved in the third reset, besides Sensei mentioning he'll be a better teacher tomorrow, then rephrasing it as him being a better teacher today technically, since he's deciding to be a better one now. (Which likely lead to the confusion)
 
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How long do you guys think it will take until the entire class is aware of the reset stuff? At the current rate of major events I can't imagine Makoto saying "the 10th annual dorm wars" without anyone reacting to it.
 

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How long do you guys think it will take until the entire class is aware of the reset stuff? At the current rate of major events I can't imagine Makoto saying "the 10th annual dorm wars" without anyone reacting to it.
We're pretty close to the "dark" route, so this might be one of the last dorm wars we get to see. I also think we're gonna stop having one or two people at a time catch on, but news will start spreading fast. Everyone realizing what's going on and freaking out might be part of what makes the "dark" route dark.
What are the odds that Ami is sensei's daughter in your opinion?
5.
 

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A huge thank you to everyone who replied to my post yesterday about the LiL remake. Your reaction was incredible. I was very pleased to hear the kind words of support. I also found your criticism, suggestions and ideas very valuable. I will definitely take all this into account when developing and I will definitely continue this development in order to share the news with you in the near (hopefully) future!
 

barglenarglezous

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Is this just your opinion or has Sel actually said this?
It's an informed opinion shared by a lot of people here.

1) His stated plan of three "routes" (more accurately "phases"), with us being in the first phase presently.
2) About a year ago, he said we were about %25 through, so we're approaching the %33 mark, or about the time when a phase shift would logically occur.
3) The stakes are rising. We have a god speaking through Yasu, demanding certain actions be performed before the coming of Winter with nebulous consequences, we have the most recent reset starting in a blood-filled room with a corner of what appears to be Yumi's PJs visible from behind the couch (implying she's been killed), we have the recent discussion of psycho Ami in-game, and Ami's overall behavior. This all points to us approaching a cliff-edge.
4) As each chapter so far has focused on a single season, and each season has spanned two resets, the logical conclusion is that the next reset will push us into Winter, and Chapter 4. A chapter break would be the optimal time to also shift into a new phase.
5) The only reasonable out would be the arrival of Autumn, something that has been stated to not exist in Kumon-Mi, but it's also been said that things are changing. This would give us another year of build up, potentially, before the shift.
 

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2) About a year ago, he said we were about %25 through, so we're approaching the %33 mark, or about the time when a phase shift would logically occur.
Was this percentage referring to the whole story or just the current phase? I mean was he clear when he stated it or has it just been an assumption of the scope of his comment?
 
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