Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.4468] [Kompas Productions]

[MurkyTurtle]

as per F95 rules I reported the discussion asking for the abandoned tag. my report was rejected

Their dedication to the rules is kinda respectable, if I was a mod I'd have thrown the tag on just to stop the flood of reports that will be coming in today. Then again, if I were a mod I'd have also locked the thread months ago and wielded a banhammer like Thor playing Whack-a-Mole, so it's probably a good thing I'm not one.

 

[vks017]

This is almost as exciting as getting a new update. My only hope is that if this gets the abandoned tag, people will finally stop complaining, but judging by what happened with milfy city thresd, nothing will change.

Except something did change there. After ages it got an update of questionable quality. And funny thing there, a member of the dev team no less came to ask for the abandoned tag to be removed. At the moment in both cases it looks like the tag made an impact.

 

[anzug]

Every time I get a notification from this thread, my hopes are raised. Then I come here and they're dashed again. Now I'm contributing to the problem.

 

[FlipFish]

I think at this point more people are more invested in this thread rather than the actual game.

 

[naoligopraisso]

I think at this point more people are more invested in this thread rather than the actual game.

considering that the last update was in 2022 and we are in 2024, there is no game to invest in and talk about.

 

[Shadesishere]

I think at this point more people are more invested in this thread rather than the actual game.

At this point it's a case of sitting back and enjoying the show, and for some, throwing fuel.

 

[Xupuzulla]

considering that the last update was in 2022 and we are in 2024, there is no game to invest in and talk about.

This.
People acting like they are new things to talk about is just insulting.

 

[JacksHoff]

This.
People acting like they are new things to talk about is just insulting.

mfw

 

[tropicalstorm]

The amount of talented artists that seemingly get scammed by programmers into multi-year content delays is too damn high. I get it, their initial code is probably garbage but guess what, it existed and it did something. Who cares how clean and scalable and *insert latest coding fad here* if the code doesn't exist. There's maaaaany games that have absolutely garbage code but no one is complaining because they're playing the game. Celeste is a great example(from an organizational perspective). Great game, great mechanics, 5k line classes though. But no one cares.

Let your sequel be where you implement the lessons you've learned from a system architecture POV.

Summertime Saga, What a Legend, Life in Woodchester, HHG, the list goes on, all stuck behind refactoring projects and programmers who probably have half a youtube tutorials experience behind them and think SOLID and clean code are commandments. I'll take bug riddled games over literally nothing any day of the week.

 

[BobBoober]

Its time to give it a scam tag or at least a honest abandoned, its a shame but the reality.

 

[BadTime69]

Ok real talk, this thread gets the abandoned tag then what? What would that change?

 

[MurkyTurtle]

The amount of talented artists that seemingly get scammed by programmers into multi-year content delays is too damn high. I get it, their initial code is probably garbage but guess what, it existed and it did something. Who cares how clean and scalable and *insert latest coding fad here* if the code doesn't exist. There's maaaaany games that have absolutely garbage code but no one is complaining because they're playing the game. Celeste is a great example(from an organizational perspective). Great game, great mechanics, 5k line classes though. But no one cares.

Let your sequel be where you implement the lessons you've learned from a system architecture POV.

Summertime Saga, What a Legend, Life in Woodchester, HHG, the list goes on, all stuck behind refactoring projects and programmers who probably have half a youtube tutorials experience behind them and think SOLID and clean code are commandments. I'll take bug riddled games over literally nothing any day of the week.

One does wonder where adult game artists find their coders. Referrals? Discord DM randos? I don't remember DC ever putting out a proper hiring announcement, but he'll suddenly have a new coder and a team full of posers from all across the globe on a moment's notice. I get that there's probably not a fantastic pool of talent out there, but how do we know if any of these people are actually capable of whatever pie-in-the-sky vision the artist cooks up?

 

[Jabami Yumeko]

Aahhaha WTF lie abandoned tag April 30

 

[KayalDraknys]

Been almost 2 years since this game was updated.....sad.

 

[BobBoober]

Ok real talk, this thread gets the abandoned tag then what? What would that change?

It will maybe stop or warn some people donating him. There where nearly montly update with a good amount of content when he earned less than 1000$... Now he is a Milionare milking his fans with no updates. I would say 75% of the game was made in the first year. Its time to stop that scam!

 

[MiraiTrunks]

 

[DaedusWolfe]

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Meh .. he can begin testing all he wants. That isn't a release. Unless his own progress counter is massively screwed up then he isn't going to be releasing anything substantial any time soon.

 

[otranu]

Maybe this mean that they are starting testing on the new code, or something to start advancing in the infinite 69% in the code tasks

 

[tropicalstorm]

One does wonder where adult game artists find their coders. Referrals? Discord DM randos? I don't remember DC ever putting out a proper hiring announcement, but he'll suddenly have a new coder and a team full of posers from all across the globe on a moment's notice. I get that there's probably not a fantastic pool of talent out there, but how do we know if any of these people are actually capable of whatever pie-in-the-sky vision the artist cooks up?

I'd bet it's unemployed(or employed in some non-related profession) Discord randos that have "portfolios" that if slightly dug into, would be a direct copy/paste of one of the 1000s of YouTube tutorials for everything from websites to games to apps or even GitHub repos. In defense of these game devs, it can be hard to vet programmers without being a professional yourself. These people are willing to take much lower pay while promising a completely unrealistic timeline for what they're proposing so it seems like a win win to both sides. They're completely unaware that they're at the peak of Mt. Stupid in a Dunning Kruger chart.

 

[DaedusWolfe]

Aahhaha WTF lie abandoned tag April 30

Use the "report" link on the OP. Let them know that the game has not seen an update for 18 months. That the dev laid out a 9 month plan for the tech update 2 years ago. that the progress as reported on the Dev's patreon page has been stalled at, approximately, the same percentage for the past 8 months. and then request the abandoned tag until the dev manages to deliver the completed update.